The national registry of saltwater anglers

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Beginning January 1, 2010, recreational anglers who fish in federal waters are required to be registered each year with NOAA Fisheries. The proposed rule also requires registration by those who may catch anadromous species such as salmon, striped bass, smelt, and shad that spawn in rivers and streams and spend their adult lives in estuaries and the ocean. Registration will be free for the first year.

The national registry of saltwater anglers is the key to closing a major gap in information on recreational fishing, improving the efficiency and accuracy of surveys. It will also help NOAA demonstrate the economic value of saltwater recreational fishing on local and national economies and allow the agency to get a more accurate picture of the level of participation by the American public in saltwater fishing.

NOAA Fisheries has implemented the final federal rule for the National Saltwater Angler Registry, a requirement of the reauthorized Magnuson-Stevens Act and an important component of the broader initiative to improve the quality of recreational fishing data. The rule outlines the process NOAA Fisheries will use for registering saltwater recreational anglers. It also addresses the qualifications and procedures for exempting states and their anglers from the federal registration requirement.

Anglers may be exempt from federal registration if they fish in a state that already has a program in place to account for all of its saltwater anglers. The rule outlines possible exemptions for states that have a comprehensive saltwater fishing license or a regional angler survey program approved by NOAA Fisheries. In addition, anglers fishing from licensed for-hire vessels and anglers under the age of 16 are also exempt.


For more information about the registry visit www.CountMyFish.noaa.gov.

Who will have to register? All anglers and spear fishermen who fish in federal waters (3-200 miles from shore) and anglers and spear fishermen who may catch anadromous fish (such as striped bass, shad, salmon, smelt) in any tidal waters. Also for-hire vessel operators who are not already federally or state licensed.


Who will NOT have to register?
The following people are exempt from registering:
Children under the age of 16.
Persons angling from a licensed for-hire vessel (party and charter boats).
Persons with a valid saltwater fishing license from a state that collects and provides the required registry information to NOAA Fisheries (As of 1/1/2010, approved states are AK, WA, OR, CA, TX, LA, AL, GA, FL, SC, NC, NY, CT).
Other minor exemptions (see the proposed rules).


Will it cost anything to register? The registration will be free in 2010, but the federal law allows a fee to be charged, beginning in 2011, which is estimated to be $15-$25.


How will you be able to register? Go to www.countmyfish.noaa.gov or call 1-888-674-7411.


What information will you need to provide? The proposed rules call for individuals to submit their: name; address; phone number; and region of the country they intend to fish. The information would remain confidential and used only for the purpose of gathering information on recreational saltwater fishing trips.


When do I have to register? It is important that all saltwater anglers be aware of the new requirement to register beginning in January 2010.


Some states have a saltwater fishing license; will anglers in those states still have to register? Having a resident saltwater fishing license from a state that collects and provides the required registry information to NOAA Fisheries would exempt an angler from having to register, because their state would automatically take care of that with the information provided for the license.


Is there a plan for New Hampshire to have a state saltwater license, so that registry fees paid by anglers would go the state instead of to the federal government? A saltwater license was approved this year by the NH State Legislature and signed by the Governor. The license will go into effect January 1, 2011, and will cost $15 for residents and non-residents.
What if I have a saltwater license in another state - will I need to buy a NH saltwater fishing license? The law implementing NH's saltwater license provides for reciprocity only with Maine and Massachusetts, provided they also offer reciprocity for our licensed saltwater anglers. Licenses from other Atlantic states will not qualify.
NOAA Fisheries, N.H. Fish and Game, and other state marine resource agencies are getting the word out about the new registry. The public is encouraged to visit the NOAA Fisheries website www.CountMyFish.noaa.gov.
 

Shamus O'toole

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Re: The national registry of saltwater anglers

If you live in a state that already has licensing (Persons with a valid saltwater fishing license from a state that collects and provides the required registry information to NOAA Fisheries (As of 1/1/2010, approved states are AK, WA, OR, CA, TX, LA, AL, GA, FL, SC, NC, NY, CT). will not have to register with NOAA.
 

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Re: The national registry of saltwater anglers

some times i'm so glad i live in the UK :)
 

Shamus O'toole

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it doesn't bother me at all to pay the 17 dollars a year for a saltwater fishing license. It helps pay for our FWC (Florida Fish and Wildlife Commision) officers. It also helps educates people in wildlife conservation.
 

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it doesn't bother me at all to pay the 17 dollars a year for a saltwater fishing license. It helps pay for our FWC (Florida Fish and Wildlife Commision) officers. It also helps educates people in wildlife conservation.

Good for you but to me it sucks. The fact that when I get an ocasional visitor, like my sister from out of state with her kids that are 16 or over, means that I would have to secure a license for them to go fishing with me for that day. Try to understand that unlike me, they are not fishermen and come with me as a very pleasent quality time event honoring me as they know I love boating and fishing. I see the whole thing as government sticking it to us again.
 

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What is the logic behind this statement:
I see the whole thing as government sticking it to us again.

Not to be rude, but our waters are being overfished, and one part of trying to find solutions to this problem (or any problem) is to survey, study, and collect data. We as fishermen (and fisherwomen) will help pay for those studies.

Think of it this way; if we do not help pay for those studies directly, then the alternative is to have everyone pitch in. Is it really fair to landlocked residents, many of whom have never personally seen an ocean before, to be taxed to pay for studies of an area they have no interest in?

The fact that when I get an ocasional visitor, like my sister from out of state with her kids that are 16 or over, means that I would have to secure a license for them to go fishing with me for that day.

First of all you already had to do that, at least in CT, NY and Canada; this is what day-passes or month-passes etc are for.

Second, if you happen to be in an area like mine, New Haven CT, there is a very small number of police boats on the water; I literally saw one police boat last year the entire season from may to october. That said, if you are like me, you would get your license as you ought to, and for those who visit once well; nobody is going to cry fowl.

In summary, I really don't see how a $17 fee for an entire season is worth saying the government is sticking it to us. If I had to take prescription pills, my co-pay for brand-name is $40, how long do pills normally last? a month?

Or think of the NYC bridges, they are $11 a pop just to be honored to drive on the george washington bridge one time, one way.
 

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Re: The national registry of saltwater anglers

some times i'm so glad i live in the UK

Oh, yeah, no government regulations there! :eek:
 

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I was stationed in NC a few years back, and remember when the state implemented the saltwater licensing program. I don't think 17 dollars a year is asking too much to help protect the future of these species, and our sport. Now I do have questions about this. Is it just recreational anglers on the water from 3 miles on out, or does it include surf fishermen and those using piers as well? Is it going to be an endorsement on the fishing license like it is in NC?
 

levittownnick

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Re: The national registry of saltwater anglers

What is the logic behind this statement:


Not to be rude, but our waters are being overfished, and one part of trying to find solutions to this problem (or any problem) is to survey, study, and collect data. We as fishermen (and fisherwomen) will help pay for those studies.

Think of it this way; if we do not help pay for those studies directly, then the alternative is to have everyone pitch in. Is it really fair to landlocked residents, many of whom have never personally seen an ocean before, to be taxed to pay for studies of an area they have no interest in?



First of all you already had to do that, at least in CT, NY and Canada; this is what day-passes or month-passes etc are for.

Second, if you happen to be in an area like mine, New Haven CT, there is a very small number of police boats on the water; I literally saw one police boat last year the entire season from may to october. That said, if you are like me, you would get your license as you ought to, and for those who visit once well; nobody is going to cry fowl.

In summary, I really don't see how a $17 fee for an entire season is worth saying the government is sticking it to us. If I had to take prescription pills, my co-pay for brand-name is $40, how long do pills normally last? a month?

Or think of the NYC bridges, they are $11 a pop just to be honored to drive on the george washington bridge one time, one way.

Check it out, In NY the fee goes right into the general fund!
 

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Re: The national registry of saltwater anglers

I was stationed in NC a few years back, and remember when the state implemented the saltwater licensing program. I don't think 17 dollars a year is asking too much to help protect the future of these species, and our sport. Now I do have questions about this. Is it just recreational anglers on the water from 3 miles on out, or does it include surf fishermen and those using piers as well? Is it going to be an endorsement on the fishing license like it is in NC?

This Federal registration is only required in States that currently don't have a a tidal water licensing system in place. NC has a tidal water license in place so your are exempt if you have a current NC tidal license.

You need to be licensed to fish any body of water that has a tide.
 

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If you think paying $17 dollars is bad to fish...listen to a story my Dad has told me about NY where I am originally from..

He likes to ice fish..he has to buy certified bait for the lake...and the bait can only be used for I believe 7 days from the date of purchase..

Now there is a racket folks...wait until Big Sis finds away to propogate those laws across the country..
 

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Second, if you happen to be in an area like mine, New Haven CT, there is a very small number of police boats on the water; I literally saw one police boat last year the entire season from may to october. That said, if you are like me, you would get your license as you ought to, and for those who visit once well; nobody is going to cry fowl.

I hear this as an excuse to make illegal nearly every action. I call them the "Lick my boot laws".

If you are friends with the LEO or go to church with the guy or kneel down and lick the LEOs boot, you'll get a pass. If, however, you expect to have rights and be left alone, you will be fined, arrested or worse, since there is always something illegal. Even simply standing on the sidewalk is illegal (loitering).

In the town I live nearly anything you can think of is against the town's "nuisance" ordinance, yet they refuse to enforce any of them.. unless the code enforcement officer doesn't like you.

If there is a possible exception to a law, it either needs to be explicitly stated in the law or the law shouldn't be enacted. Simple as that. The whole "look the other way" exceptions are abuse, pure and simple.
 

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Good for you but to me it sucks. The fact that when I get an ocasional visitor, like my sister from out of state with her kids that are 16 or over, means that I would have to secure a license for them to go fishing with me for that day. Try to understand that unlike me, they are not fishermen and come with me as a very pleasent quality time event honoring me as they know I love boating and fishing. I see the whole thing as government sticking it to us again.

Yah, well, there it is. When people visit me from out of state and want to go fishing, I buy them a 3-day non-resident license. I pay for it, too. They have a good time, and the fee helps pay for the DNR's fisheries programs.

When you think about how much a day on the water costs, the license fee for those short-term licenses is nothing to complain about. My guests enjoy their day of fishing and I always put them on fish.

Fishing licenses are one of the fees we pay the government that actually goes to the activity we enjoy. In fact, I'm pushing in my own state to raise the annual fishing licence fee to support the DNR programs even more.
 

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If you think paying $17 dollars is bad to fish...listen to a story my Dad has told me about NY where I am originally from..

He likes to ice fish..he has to buy certified bait for the lake...and the bait can only be used for I believe 7 days from the date of purchase..

Now there is a racket folks...wait until Big Sis finds away to propogate those laws across the country..

That's not a racket. It's designed to keep bait from being moved from one lake to another. Many states have rules like that. It helps keep unwanted species or fish diseases from being transferred from lake to lake.
 

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some of you guys sound just like a bunch of sheep or the brain dead masses following the pied piper ( sorry, I meant the fed gov't)..... how many of you actually believe these funds are used for the good of fishing ? the people in charge of these funds don't even know how to go about counting fish ... I just don't have to much faith in any beaurocracy being competent enough to actually make a difference towards making the right moves ... now the coastguard is threatening to arrest news crews in the gulf because BP doesn't want them there ..... sorry for the rant
 

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some of you guys sound just like a bunch of sheep or the brain dead masses following the pied piper ( sorry, I meant the fed gov't)..... how many of you actually believe these funds are used for the good of fishing ? the people in charge of these funds don't even know how to go about counting fish ... I just don't have to much faith in any beaurocracy being competent enough to actually make a difference towards making the right moves ... now the coastguard is threatening to arrest news crews in the gulf because BP doesn't want them there ..... sorry for the rant

I think that our forefathers would have cut off the gonads of anyone trying to tax salt water fishing and I beleieve that should happen today.
 

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some of you guys sound just like a bunch of sheep or the brain dead masses following the pied piper ( sorry, I meant the fed gov't)..... how many of you actually believe these funds are used for the good of fishing ? the people in charge of these funds don't even know how to go about counting fish ... I just don't have to much faith in any beaurocracy being competent enough to actually make a difference towards making the right moves ... now the coastguard is threatening to arrest news crews in the gulf because BP doesn't want them there ..... sorry for the rant

I see the funds working everyday (at least here in FLA) I see the FWC ( http://myfwc.com/)officers working on a daily basis. Everything from arresting poachers to teaching our future fishermen and fisherladies about conservation.. So you can be cynical all you want about the big bad government (yes some aspects are corrupt) but from what I personally see ( not what I "THINK" happens) they are helping.
 

Shamus O'toole

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I think that our forefathers would have cut off the gonads of anyone trying to tax salt water fishing and I beleieve that should happen today.

is this the same generation that nearly wiped out the blue whale, sperm whale, humpback whale.....ect.ect.ect....hopefully you see my point. As much as I don't like to be regulated it has to happen because some people in this world just have to be greedy and take everthing they can while having no thoughts to the future....thats a fact that can't be argued....
 

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I have no problem with catch limits where they need to be installed , but you know as well as I do that the $ collected is BS .... maybe in florida where the state sets most of it's own seasons and catch limits you can see the payoff but remember that you are insulated much better than the rest of us by living there ... most of the rest of us are at the mercy of the feds .... by the way, whales and such that were hunted by that generation were done so by commercial fishermen ... this is all about the rec angler and another form of taxation
 

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I have no problem with catch limits where they need to be installed , but you know as well as I do that the $ collected is BS .... maybe in florida where the state sets most of it's own seasons and catch limits you can see the payoff but remember that you are insulated much better than the rest of us by living there ... most of the rest of us are at the mercy of the feds .... by the way, whales and such that were hunted by that generation were done so by commercial fishermen ... this is all about the rec angler and another form of taxation

Well, I can speak about Minnesota. The Mississippi is clean and chock full of fish these days, even where it flows through the middle of our large cities. That wasn't always true, and it's through the efforts of both the DNR and the Corps of Engineers that it's cleaned up.

Muskies have made a terrific comeback on our lakes, and you can catch one within the Minneapolis St. Paul city limits.

Our trout streams in Minnesota have been restored, thanks to the money we pay for our trout stamps. They were empty of trout just a few years ago. Fished out and polluted.

Walleye fishing is better than it has been for decades, thanks to the management and stocking programs paid for by our fishing license fees.

New launch ramps are going in and old ones are being rebuilt in the waters that belong to the citizens of Minnesota.

Are there problems? You bet there are. But there are fish, and that wasn't true a couple of decades ago. Individuals can't manage resources. It takes large agencies to do that.

Government isn't all bad. It's just not.
 
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