Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks guys for the feed back.
The PL is the most cost effective.
I jst have to rig up some kind of holding fixture for the stringers. My stringers aren't straight they actually curve around slightly, I need a fixture to hold the correct shape.
Thrillhouse700, I will make sure they are totally encased in glass. I don't want to do this again on this boat.
SKIBUM1M, I don't live in TN, I live in KY, I'm just working in TN. I'm about 2 hrs west of Nashville.
I like to go around to several different lakes around the area, and the different states.
Thanks again everyone.
Bob

 

[system-f]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

I agree on the PL. It was amazing how strong everything felt after the stringers were bedded with no glass on them. The cheap large gun at HD does tend to wear out quickly. I bent the handle on mine after the 1st tube.

 

[thrillhouse700]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

yeah its cheap, found best to scuff up the rod part of the caulking gun OR just spend the extra 9 bux and get the nice one. The big blue one is quite the POS

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks guys,
I already bought the blue one. I figured that with the stress put on the little tubes that big one would be even worse. So I bit the bullet.
Thanks again
Bob

 

[lowkee]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

I got lucky and found the $28 big one for $4 on clearance. That thing is a Cadillac! Went through 7-8 tubes already and it doesn't even twitch. Never even occurred to me about bending anything.. it must have a higher ratio 'gearing' mechanism, because it is easy as pie to use. Well worth the cost even at $28, IMO. I go through big tubes fast enough as it is. I would pull my hair out swapping out 3 times as many tubes, especially knowing the clock is ticking the second you squeeze the first inch.

Bob, if you live anywhere near the LBL area, we may be able to hook up in a few months, as I plan to move out there in the spring if all goes to plan. It'd be nice to hang out with a fellow 'hands dirty' boat nut. I'm considered the trashy one in my neighborhood because I go outside

 

[drewpster]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Keep in mind that the main reason for bedding the stringers, or any hard core, is to prevent hard spots. Some guys will even leave a slight gap under them. I don?t like that idea because any void can trap water, and that is never a good thing. So I use a filler.

Foam- You can use foam strips under the stringers to hold them off the hull.
pro- Easy! no muss, no fuss, cut it, lay it in place
con- Expensive, you need marine type, the right density, inert, waterproof, poly compatible.

Peanut Butter- You can mix your own compound from polyester or epoxy using fillers.
pro- On Hand, used during the layup for other things, fully compatible
con- Can be tricky to get the mix just right, uses up otherwise limited supply of components needed for layup, a bit of overkill in my view

5200- You can use this wonder goo to seal and bed just about everything on a boat.
pro- Easy, Caulk it in place let it set a little, bed them in, fully compatible.
con- Extremely expensive! You will need about 7-8 regular sized caulk tubes to bed a 12 foot stringer $$$

Pl Premium Poly Adhesive- You can bed them using construction adhesive.
Pro- Easy, cheap, flexible, strong, good bond, lasts, locally available
con- thick beads will bubble (voids), not great for filleting,


I used the PL. I ran I thick bead down the hull where the stringer went in. I used 2 x 2 cross bars and long screws to hold the stringer in place and raise it slightly off the hull. And I used a scraper to remove the squeeze out flush with the side of the stringer. After it cured, I removed the supports and the thing was solid as a rock! I made fillets in the inside corners using peanut butter and glassed them in. In all, I remember using about 8 regular tubes of PL to bed the 12' center and 5' outer stringers. The PL was used for the stringers only. I bonded the transom in using fiberglass mat, resin and peanut butter to fill voids and to make fillets.

enjoy
drewp
TMI is my specialty

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

lowkee,
That would be cool. I go through that area all the time.
It took me a few seconds to figure LBL but I got it.
I live 2 hours east and work 1.5 hours south of LBL. It would be great.
I'll be looking forward to it.
Bob

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

drewpster,
Thanks for all the great information.
I agree with the 5200 being big bucks. The cheapest I have found is $17 a tube.
Right now my plan is to use the PL and then fillet with PB, as you and several others have recommended.
Thanks I appreciate all the help
Bob

 

[HopeSheFloats]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey Bob, I finally got around to reading your thread, kept waiting to see the replacement transom. I'm half expecting inlays and french polish{lol}...looking like a fun project, I used PL myself on my Imperial{stringer bedding and transom to outer skin}, no regrets other than a little bit of a bear getting it smoothed out...looking forward to keeping up with your resto!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

HopeSheFloats,
Thanks
Nah, I won't spend that much time on it.
I won't get home until Friday night to actually start on the the transom.
I have the wood with me but I don't have tools here with me.
Trust me I have thought about it.
I hope to get the transom cut and dry fitted on Saturday and laminated together. Then the stringer holding fixture built and stringers dry fitted.
Sunday, I would like to get a layer of resin and glass to seal it.
When I return home the following weekend start glassing it into the boat.
That's my plan we'll see how well that works out.
I may do some inlays above the deck.
Thanks and have a good day.
Bob

 

[thrillhouse700]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Nice, looking forward to seeing it!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey folks,
I just got some bad news today. My Holiday break just got cut short. I have to fly out the Sunday after Christmas to Mexico. Guess what I'll be doing? One of our favorite subjects.
I will be installing and starting up a urethane foam line.
I will fly out Sunday back Thursday and back out Sunday till the following Friday.
Oh well, another day in Paradise.
At least I still have the week of Christmas off.
Bob

 

[drewpster]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Bob I feel your pain. I recently was promoted in my job and I am finding far less free time these days. I have only been fishing once this year. A real crime I know. Seems you have more experience than me when it comes to "overburden syndrome". Truthfully I feel blessed I still have a job> Others are not so fortunate. So carry on your dedication.....the boat will get done.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks drewpster,
You are correct on several points. I am use to it, I seem to have been living this way for a long time.
I'm also very thankful to have a job in todays economy.
I still Gets old.
It also pays the bills and allows me to spend money on my boat and other things.
Thanks again.
Bob

 

[thrillhouse700]

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Yeah man, I am a victim of the times............ I know a few others here are in the same boat as me. Man if Im not working on the boat I am hoping and praying for a job just because Im always so bored.

 

[SKIBUM1M]

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I am in the unemployed club too. I am in a good field but my wife is deployed with the national guard and there arent many auto repair shops that are not open on weekends and there are not many daycares that are open on weekends. So I am mr mom and whenever the kids are sleeping I work on the boat. If I didnt have a project to work on I would go nuts worrying about her, and from the stress of a 2 and 4 year old. after the boat is done I rebuild the bathroom, finish the garage, fix our 4th car to sell, put a new roof on the house, and if I have time take the boat out with the kids. I have already built new cabinets for the kitchen, rewired the garage and sheetrocked most of the garage. How did I ever find time to work?? But it would be nice to talk to someone over the age of 4.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

I am in the unemployed club too. I am in a good field but my wife is deployed with the national guard and there arent many auto repair shops that are not open on weekends and there are not many daycares that are open on weekends. So I am mr mom and whenever the kids are sleeping I work on the boat. If I didnt have a project to work on I would go nuts worrying about her, and from the stress of a 2 and 4 year old. after the boat is done I rebuild the bathroom, finish the garage, fix our 4th car to sell, put a new roof on the house, and if I have time take the boat out with the kids. I have already built new cabinets for the kitchen, rewired the garage and sheetrocked most of the garage. How did I ever find time to work?? But it would be nice to talk to someone over the age of 4.

Hang in there, hopefully the rest of us will be entertaining! I really wonder if some of the folks on here are over the age of 4! As for the guard duty, we are appreciative.....Semper Fi!

 

[sprintst]

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The economy is starting to turn around...just not fast enough. The jobs will come...

I always find when I have free time I have no extra money to go along with it. It just always seems to workout that way

I've been checking out some of Bobs woodwork has listed as a hobby. That's some nice stuff you've built there...

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

In my field of mechanics there will always be jobs but the jobs everyone is saying are coming are not. We have shipped all our jobs out of the country instead of products. With NAFTA and WTO the economy may have upticks but as long as companys can find slave labor in impoverished countrys, and they keep running our government then things will never really get better. We need tarrifs and that would fix our economy faster than anything else.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hello everyone.
A lot of great replies.
I hope that you all find jobs that let you still enjoy life. I'm still looking for one near my home. I have been away to long.
archbuilder, I'm not over 41, I'm way over it.
Semper Fi! sounds like another Marine out there.
I respect all the branches of the service and would do anything to support any one of them.
sprintst, Thanks for the complements on the woodworking and everyone else. I really appreciate the kind words.
I'm heading home mid day tomorrow.
Thanks again everyone.
Bob