OldMercsRule said:
rolmops said:
I like the idea of governments actively taking steps to...
Yes Rolmops, most Liberals like their governments active! Bro Haut has a soft spot for kids, n' lets his emotions cloud his judgement, (as do many Libs). He's for public child spanking Cops,Courts,Social workers n' Prisons. Seattle Libs seemed to get sympathy here on iboats for boo Cops, Courts, Social workers n' Prisons. N' maybe you all want the light bulb Cops, Courts, Social workers n' Prisons. After we build all that stucture you want outa your "active government", we will not be able to defend ourselves anymore as all the money n' effort will go to these serious Liberal nany government projects, and most of us will be in jail for keepin' our old 2 stroke motors n' all. Do ya think if we pray to Mecca five times a day n' force women ta wear burkas they well let us live? JR
Oh Murky,
Quite a ways from the light bulb.
[colour=blue]True but I could not resist the opportunity to expose the potential downside of another nany government agenda, (that you may or may not be for). Can't read that sharp mind of yours![/colour]
The phrase was : I like the idea of governments actively taking steps to LOWER THEIR POWER BILLS. Mostly because ,if they spend less I will have to pay less taxes.
[colour=blue]I know I took a snippit of your statement, (to show a point), but not at your expense; Rolmops. Solution: Dispand the IRS, Dept of Education would be two good places to start. If ya think a little bit there is lots more we could shut down, n' that would decrease the power cornsumption of the ol' government, which would be real good.[/colour]
So please forgive my ignorance on the subject of the big brother type of government that you fear will come into being as a result of
energy saving measures.
[colour=blue]As a capitalist: I luv to save energy, as an American I dislike: "we have to do something". Government is very inefficient: Rolmops, at everything accept: GROWING LARGE[/colour].
I do see where you come up with these statements though.I suspect,as a child ,you like most middle Americans,were brought up to believe that unbridled capitalism is the American way and therefore the best way.
[colour=blue]Come on now Rolmops, this is beyond a mind read, now yer psychoanalyzin' me childhood. I like capitalism, but I liked Teddy Roosevelt too![/colour]
Never worry .Most Russian children were brought up to believe that communism is the best way and capitalism is evil,while European kids were indoctrinated to believe that a little bit of everything (as in social democracy) is superior to both Russian and American ideas.
[colour=blue]I know the Russians and Europeans think they are better then us Rolmops. They really resent us 'cause us inferior Americans seem ta dominate 'em in most ways. A real shame eh?[/colour]
Of course the truth is somewhere in the middle and a bit different for all of us.
[colour=blue]Nah, I don't agree with the fuzzy stuff Rolmops[/colour].
Fact is that unbridled capitalism is great for the rich and disastrous for the poor.
[colour=blue]Don't know what ya mean by "unbridled", (same as wife beating is bad?), but I think just the opposite: Capitalism floats all boats Rolmops![/colour]
Communism breeds medeocracy,and is great for the bureaucrats,but real lousy for would be capitalists.
[colour=blue]Nah, wrong again Rolmops, (sorry for the arrogant statement, [wrong]), 'cause yer statement is in fact: wrong! Communism is good for ol' Uncle Joe n' Chairman Mao, n' Fidel; but it's REAL BAD for everyone else Rolmops. What ideology has killed, (murdered would be a better word), more people then any other philosophy in history?[/colour]
Social democracy takes the sting out of the extremes and tries to be government with a social conscience.
[colour=blue]Thats what you think, not me![/colour]
Please do not presume that I am a liberal or a republican.
[colour=blue]Didn't think I did, I guess I will reread me post, I jus' wanted to take advantage of a snippit of yer post.[/colour]
If you feel the need to hang a name plate on me,call me a social democrat with a conscience.
[colour=blue]Don't feel the need to hang any name on ya, except maybe: friend.[/colour]
The sort of conscience that makes ride a bycicle to work and that makes me use 1957 two strokes.
[colour=red]That's something I can get behind. If they try ta take yer motor away ya wanna hang out with me n' Plainsman n' Tree?[/colour]
And as for light bulb cops......Please do remember who greatly expanded the often not so legal phone tapping policy of government.