Typical Liberal Response

POINTER94

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Well it now seems the Governor of Oregon, a member of the church of global warming, just can't take dissent. His state "climatologist" does not subscribe to the group think mentality and actually formed his own opinion. You may not know that there are those who don't subscribe to this new religion, but regardless of the liberal media and left wing propaganda, there are voices of reason. So what does a good liberal do with a dissenting voice. Yep, it looks like he is going to fire him/strip him of his title. If you don't drink the Kool-Aid you can't be part of the party.

http://www.oregonbusiness.com/.docs/story_id/22310/pg/453

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_020607_news_taylor_title.59f5d04a.html
 

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He should be stripped of his title and fired... the governor I mean.
 

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“Most of the climate changes we have seen up until now have been a result of natural variations,” Taylor asserts.

Duh, could that be because mankind wasn't burning fossil fuels earlier than about a hundred years ago? What a stupid comment! This guy calls himself a scientist? Make the University (NOT the state) Climatologist the Court Jester. Then he can keep a title of recognition.
 

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Deep analysis of his research Willy. I now can change my mind. d:)

He is suppose to be a scientist. Why would the governor try to make a political statement out of him?
 
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In the words of Reecardo Mantoebaln, there ees no sooch theeng as teepical. thiz are sterotaps.
 

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Wow, Taylor is part of a scientific group that recieves money from Exxonmobile, thats a shock.

We need to have scientists who are actually independent of both sides look at the data, not ones being paid off by treehuggers or oil corporations. As far as I am concerned, the conclusions on either side of the arguement is flawed as long as special interest is involved. Glad to see people are latching onto anything that supports their personal beliefs. Objectivity just gets in the way..

Like I always say, I can't say we are responsible for "global warming", but we damn sure aren't helping to prevent it...
 
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RubberFrog said:
Welcome, to Fantasy Island!

Money makes the world go 'round, the world go 'round
Money makes the world go 'round, the world go 'round and round. ;)
 

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JasonJ said:
As far as I am concerned, the conclusions on either side of the arguement is flawed as long as special interest is involved
Exactly!!! And I would add "as long as consensus is involved". Powering upstream takes a LOT more horsepower than floating with it . . .
 

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I thought we were not supposed to talk religion in here? :devil:8)
 

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The vast majority of Oregon is about as concervative as you can get, but the big city`s, Portland, Eugene, and Salem cancel us out.

Our so called govorner is the worse Govorner this state has ever had. he hides from everyone for months then pops out with some kind of dribble like this then pops back into his hole. The guy I work for went to college with him and he was a POS then and still is.

His nickname is Ted Tax and Gouge me.
 

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Hmmmmm.
Now his title is, 'Unemployed".....:love:
 

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Well, it's certainly a typical conservative trait to believe to be true what you wish to be true, regardless of the evidence.

This guy seems to fit right in, and the money from Exxon Mobile probably helps with analyzing the data!
 

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Excellent research PW. Your SCIENTIFIC method of discrediting him shows clearly the political component of the Global Warming hoax. But then what is another charactor assination between friends.

Just another liberal subscribing to politicians over scientists. Typical. What this guy recieved wouldn't cover the cost of one seat on Lil' Nancy's private air force.
 

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Well, Pointer, The sdientific argument has already been decided. Even McCain said recently the debate about global warming is over.

Arctic core samples have tracked the CO2 levels for the last 600,000 years or so, with definitive results. They've gone up and down over the centuries, but never as dramatic an up cycle as in the last 50 years, directly corresponding to increased use of fossil fuels

Dealing with many conservatives with real science is akin to beating your head against a brick wall. At some point you have to stop trying.

You want to talk real science, fine. But as long as you insist on believing what you want to believe, regardless of the science, what's the point?
 

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PW2 said:
Well, Pointer, the scientific argument has already been decided. Even McCain said recently the debate about global warming is over.

Arctic core samples have tracked the CO2 levels for the last 600,000 years or so, with definitive results. They've gone up and down over the centuries, but never as dramatic an up cycle as in the last 50 years, directly corresponding to increased use of fossil fuels

Dealing with many conservatives with real science is akin to beating your head against a brick wall. At some point you have to stop trying.

You want to talk real science, fine. But as long as you insist on believing what you want to believe, regardless of the science, what's the point?

Hey PW2, Hmmmm 600,000 years; just how old do you think this planet is? R U cherry pickin' data to prove a point that can't be proved? Just because McCain said something stupid, (don't know what he said, jus' takin' your word for it: for the sake of debate that you want to deny), the DEBATE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING IS OVER? Ya know PW2, the MSM just loves McCain because he is very unpredictable, and if he states something foolish: that proves something to you? Do you understand the concept of critical thinking PW2? Number one variable: THE SUN. Maybe ya already know everything about ol' Sol, but the so called scientific community sure does not, (so help 'em out PW2, and tell 'em 'bout ol' Sol). So by your irrational Liberal way of analysis: John McCain said the debate is over so we must agree to stop driving, power boating, producing power for industry, ('cause the Libs don't like nuclear power), and jus' turn things over to the Chinese? Use your head PW2! JR
 

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PW you again respond to a scientific question with a politician.

The vikings FARMED greenland. How exactly did they do that? Solar activity increases track directly with our current ever so slight trends. Our average temperature has gone up .07% of 1 degree C in the past 100 years. And you sit there and attribute this to SUV's specifically? Satellites taking temps for the past 20 years show ZERO change in atmospheric temps. You can point to CO2 levels but can't get them to track mathmatically with the temperature trends. Why have the past two years been cooler than 2004? How can this be under your "political science".

Avoid the superficial political science and dig deep. Blame is a wonderful tool for liberals, unfortunately not all of us are going let this junk science float unchallenged.

Again where is your science?
 

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My problem with this whole Global warming debate is that the current issue is unique in natural history. Yes, there have been temperature fluctuations throughout history. Some have been caused by meteor strikes, some have been caused by volcanic activity. These effects share the same thing, airborne debris that stays in the atmosphere for years. Other issues have been pole reversal, the moons orbit geting farther away each year, all sorts of things cause these temp changes. We can't control any of this.

Now we have all this carbon in the air, and even the most diehard skeptic of global warming should admit that the carbon is there, and it is there because we put it there.

My problem is we can't say either way what the actual outcome it going to be. Will things only slightly change? Will we be snowmobiling in Texas? No one can say. I do think it is counter productive to just put out heads in the sand and just stay the course. We should be approaching this potential problem from the angle of alternative fuel to relieve ourselves of suckling the middle-eastern teat. We know oil won't last forever, so we should be going in another direction in preperation for that. To not do that is to guarantee we will be towing our boat to the ramp with a horse in another 50 years or however long. I don't know about you but bass tournys will suck using rowboats. If we put as much energy into solving the future oil problem as we do worring about the dumb crap we do, we will be prepared, and the global warming being caused by us debate will be a non-issue.

Since it is really all about money, like most things are, the industrial entities need to start getting away from fossil fuels, make it profitable for them and attainable for us. As it stands, there is little to compell me to get rid of my paid for truck to pay a high premium for a Toyota Prius that can't tow a golf cart. We don't need a 386 hp engine in a 1/2 ton truck that gets 17 mpg. We are being brainwashed into believing that we need that. There is a small percentage of people that actually use that. The average truck owner never gets close to his max payload. We get the treehuggers to see reason, we can have fuel efficient small diesel hybrid designs in a 1/2 truck that will do just fine for what most of us use a truck for. We don't have to sacrifice utility, but we don't need to have trucks that get mpgs in the teens either.

I see the adds for the new Toyota Tundra, and I get lustful. Of course I want bigger brakes, a six speed transmission, and 386 horsepower, who wouldn't. Who cares that my moms old 70's Ford LTD when I was a kid got better fuel economy. Thats how they get you, they make tanalizing products that are not needed....
 
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