U - G - L - Y Ford Super Duty!

arks

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Re: U - G - L - Y Ford Super Duty!

I still think the new F250 has a butt-ugly front end. My '01 looks WAY better.

I finally went down to the Ford dealership yesterday and took test drives in the F250 XLT as well as the F150 XLT with the HD package. The F250's GVCW is 8800#, and the HD F150 is 8200- only 600# difference. Both trucks were standard cab w/ 8' beds and 5.4 gas engines. BTW- I'm dealing directly with the general manager of the dealership, not the sales manager or (even worse) some rookie. This guy knows what he's talking about.
First of all, the 150 was OK and rode very much like a car- even with the 4 wheel drive. I liked the access behind the seat- the rear of the cabsides open up like a supercab, only smaller. BUT... I couldn't escape the thought that it would be easy to overload. The dealer kept telling me it would be fine for my use. Keep in mind that I want a work truck, and I'll be installing a steel contractors cap weighing 500# (empty) on it. The other "revelation" from him was that the heavy duty F150 uses 7 lug wheels and Ford only offers steel rims for it (YUK). Apparently they've been doing it like this for at least 3 years, but there are still no aftermarket wheels made to fit. That's unbelievable to me. I'm just worried that the constant weight would make the suspension sag over time. I usually keep my trucks for 150,000-200,000 miles.
The F250 rode well, with a noticibly stiffer suspension. Not uncomfortable to me, but certainly not car-like. I liked the dash and interior layout way better than the 150, and the seats seemed similar (both had cloth 40/20/40). The space behind the seat was useable but the seatback had to be moved to access it.
As far a carrying capability, I have no worries that the F250 will do the job for me. Overall, I like the 250 better. But.... I don't know if I'll EVER like that nose!. The dealer tells me the 2009 F150's are going to have a look similar the the current Super Dutys, so I guess we're all going to be stuck with that look for the forseeable future.
Damn. I think I'm talking myself into an ugly truck. I've never been so un-excited about a new vehicle.
 

wildmaninal

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Dude as I mentioned there are places out there that sell grilles. At least there is something you can change on what you think is a butt ugly front end.

This is one of many sites that sells after market grilles for that truck, plus if you are lucky enough to have a truck accessories place around your location like we have they can hook you up with just about anything for that truck.

"http://www.jcwhitney.com/Auto-Parts/10101.jcw"

To sum it up there are ways to customize that truck and I wouldn't doubt that you could have a custom hood built for that truck sometime down the road if you are that worried about it.
 

arks

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It's not the grille that bothers me, it's the stacked headlights..... no easy way to change that :rolleyes:

I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but probably will in the next week or so.
 

dono16

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I think its a mean looking truck!,, however alot of you have commented on the headlights? If you walk up to on of those trucks there huge, my guess is that ford had to put the headlights low due to some laws , otherwise it would blind drivers in front of the truck. I know they have rules for bumper heights for saftey, my guess is they do for lights too. jsut a guess, however that "custom truck" Ewwww.. an "axle-less" truck disgusts me! That truck is totaly pointless,
 
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DJ

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I think its a mean looking truck!,, however alot of you have commented on the headlights? If you walk up to on of those trucks there huge, my guess is that ford had to put the headlights low due to some laws , otherwise it would blind drivers in front of the truck. I know they have rules for bumper heights for saftey, my guess is they do for lights too. jsut a guess, however that "custom truck" Ewwww.. an "axle-less" truck disgusts me! That truck is totaly pointless,

You nailed it.

FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) laws are very specific on OEM offerings on lighting. That's why you see low slung headlights on 18 wheelers and other Med./Hvy trucks.

The '08' SD grill offers over 34% more cooling than the old one (pre-'08'). The 6.4L diesel at 350 HP and 650 lb. ft. of torgue needs to be cooled. It's a huge advantage for the gassers too. Plus there are trans./ P/S coolers/air charge coolers up there too. Not to mention the A/C condenser. Those coolers allow huge tow ratings and sufficient cooling in PTO modes (stationary).

It's a TRUCK. It's meant and built to work.

If you want style and toughness, to a point, go with the 150. If you want brute work truck capability, with some style, the SD is for you.
 

Limited-Time

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Re: U - G - L - Y Ford Super Duty!

Saw one today, parked next to it at Lowes. Look way better up close than in any pics I've seen.
 

dave11

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Love my SD. A 150 is a utlilty vehicle - a SD is a truck.
 

arks

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Well, I'm picking it up tomorrow morning. A 2008 F250 XLT 4x2 standard cab with 8' bed. It's optioned pretty well and should do the job for me. The Reading contractors cap has been ordered but takes about 4 weeks. The dealer is letting me borrow a fiberglass cap until it arrives.
At least I can't see that ugly front end from behind the wheel....
 

mike176

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I've had Ford, GM, and Dodge trucks, but i'm really thinking about buying a Toyota. New Ford and GM trucks are butt ugly, Dodge is poorly built, but Toyotas have style and reliability.
 

arks

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Here's my new "baby" (gag).
 

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wildmaninal

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Re: U - G - L - Y Ford Super Duty!

If you are that upset with that model, I'll swap you a 2006 F150 V6 with low miles evenly, I would like to keep my payments low though :D. Seriously it does have low mile on it though.

I like that truck, looks awesome.
 
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