Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

CaneCutter79

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I have a 1979 boat and the wire that is used for the original 25lb thrust trolling motor is about 12ga I believe. There are (4) 12ga wires running from the bow to the stern where the batteries are stored. The wires were once switched to go from 12v to 24v (not sure how that worked) but I have bypassed the volt switch entirely and I?m running (2) of the 12ga wires for positive, and (2) of the 12ga wires for negative power leads. I?ve upgraded to a newer Minkota 65lb thrust trolling motor (quite the upgrade!) from the factory original Evinrude lightweight trolling motor.

When trolling at the highest speed in windy conditions, the 30amp breaker will trip after about 2-3mins of wide open throttle on the trolling motor. When trying to reset the breaker, I noticed the wires were very warm and so was the breaker (thus why it tripped). The setup works fine until using the trolling motor at it?s highest setting for a prolonged period.

I?m thinking of upsizing the 33yr old 12ga wire to multistrand 8ga wires (1 for positive, 1 for negative lead). I do not know how many amps are being pulled from the trolling motor (that would be good to know because then I could size the wire based on amp draw). If I can find any information on the amp draw, it would be valuable. I?m thinking either 6-8ga wire.

Also, multi-strand wire (like speakerwire) vs. stiffer automotive wire (cheap stuff at Autozone that has large strands with about 12 strands in a 12ga wire).

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This solution should deliver the current more efficiently and reduce heat as well correct?
 

Silvertip

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Re: Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

The breaker is tripping because a 55# minnkota motor can draw 50 amps. The 65# motor should be a 24 volt unit so it could draw a maximum of 40 amps.
 

CaneCutter79

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Re: Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

What about the heat? If the breaker and the wires are hot? Upsizing the breaker to 40 sounds like a fire waiting to happen. Its hot enough that I can't hold the wires for a long time period. Not comfortably anyway. :)
 

Wind dog

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Re: Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

8 gauge should be fine, the auto zone wire should be fine. IMHO
 

pootnic

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Re: Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

Heres one chart.
1272733450_MKampdraw.jpg
How much 8 gauge we talking here?
Although 8 is probably good enough up to 40' or so.
 

Silvertip

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Re: Upsizing original wire guage for trolling motor

What about the heat? If the breaker and the wires are hot? Upsizing the breaker to 40 sounds like a fire waiting to happen. Its hot enough that I can't hold the wires for a long time period. Not comfortably anyway. :)

If you paralleled both the black and red wires you effectively double the current capacity of one wire so the pair would carry 40 amps but that is at the limit and it also depends on the length of the run. A run is calculated as round trip -- battery positive to the device and back to battery negative. If you only doubled one the wires, then you still only have current capacity for one wire.

You still haven't answered whether this motor is 12 volts or 24. It should be 24 but you may be operating on only 12 volts. So which is it?
 
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