VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

Surgeevg22

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hi Everyone,

I have been having issues with my boat experiencing a fuel starvation issue. It can iddle fine all but it starves of fuel at higher rpms. I can start it back up after it dies but she only idles until the carbs fill with fuel. then i can WOT for 30 seconds or so until it starves again.

I originally thought i had an air leak in the fuel system but i have since replaced very single hose and clamp. I also removed the filters while it was doing this on the lake last time. still did it. I ran the fuel line directly from the vro to the fuel tank, no filters, or primer bulbs. Same thing. Carbs were rebuilt before this issue started,(boat was sitting for 5 years). Removed fuel pickup tube and the anti siphon valve works as it is supposed to. the fuel tank pick-up tube does not leak or suck in air.

So after all this i thought the vro might be the issue. I hooked up a cheap vacumme/fuel pressure gauge to it and used clear hose to check for air bubbles.

Here is the video of what i found.

Vacumme read between 2-3 Hg. From what i understand this is fairly normal.
The clear fuel line before the Vro is never full of fuel even though i have normal vacumme. Is this supposed to stay full of fuel or is something wrong with the VRO. it seems like the rate at which it sucks fuel out of the tank varies. Sometimes it varies alot other times it stays constant but the fuel input is never full.

You may want to turn the volume down.


Any ideas. keep in mind it is doing this at idle. I can only imagine how much fuel it will suck at WOT on the lake. It seems to me like at WOT the fuel in the line runs out and the pump cant draw enough fuel out of the tank to keep the carbs full. Or do i still have an air leak. I cant find any leaking fuel and i have looked at the entire fuel system 3 times.

Im lost on this one.

Thank you
 

boobie

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

Get a 6 gal tank with premix and line and hook it directly to the vro fuel inlet and see what happens. This eliminates the boat fuel system. If it still doesn't run, maybe a bad vro.
 

Surgeevg22

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

I did hook up the fuel inlet to a 2 gallon gas tank. i just opened up the tank and put the fuel hose in there. it still did the exact same thing. I just substituted the boats fuel tank for a 2 gallon tank. The hose still did have the metal primer bulb on it, and the inline fuel filter.

I will try your suggestion though.

This issue has me stumped. Do you guys know if the fuel inlet side is supposed to be full of fuel or just get a dribble like that.
 

boobie

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

Maybe I missed it but have you tried pumping the primer bulb when it acts up ??
 

schematic

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

don't worry about the air trapped in the line. Hook your gauge to the pressure side of the VRO and give us a reading at idle. Also take note on the pressure pulse rate.
 

Surgeevg22

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

I will get on that. I will give you a fuel pressure reading hopefully by the end of the day tomorrow.
 

Surgeevg22

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

So I hooked the pressure gauge to the fuel output side and I get between 3and 4 psi. It occasionally drops to 2 psi before the next pulse. There is still air in the lines even on the output side which worries me. I'm not sure if that ok or not.

Here's a video. I was low on battery so I only caught 16 seconds of it. I was not able to get video of the pressure dropping below 3. But it did it a couple of times.


Is the vro operating normally or should I take another look at the carbs?

Thank you
 

woody66912

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

OK so eliminate the VRO do as boobie stated and just run a line right to the carbs have some squeeze the bulb, at WOT if it runs good it's the vro .
 

Surgeevg22

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

Thank you Boobie, Woody, and Schematic. I will be out on the lake this Sunday and i will get everything together to try what you guys suggested. I just wanted to make sure I had the most information available before i go to the lake. I will be going to the lake solely for the purpose of diagnosing/fixing this issue once and for all. Though I must say its been fun tinkering on the boat. It gives me something to do in the late afternoons
 

Surgeevg22

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Re: VRO Malfunctioning? Video Included

Hey guys. I just wanted to follow up on this post.

I believe the culprit was a faulty fuel pickup tube. I was able to tweak it a it to keep it from sucking in air. I took the boat out today and the difference was night and day. I want to thank all of you guys for taking the time to help me out with this issue. I really appreciate it.
Thank you. My family and I had a great time at the lake on a functioning boat. I did notice that the engine seamed hot but the overheat alarm didn't sound. I'll make a new post for that though.

Thank you.
 
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