What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

[Don S]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Thanks for the reply Don.. hoping it wasnt in sarcasm..

Of course it was sarcasm, not that I have ever used it before.

I dont want to just hear what I want to hear, I want to hear real answers like "yes I did it and it worked" or " I did this and fragged my outdrive" etc.

Everyone else already told you the truth. You just didn't want to listen.
First of all, not sure who told you that you had a 400 series, but they sure didn't know. Bayliner didn't use stringer drives in 89, all they used was the Cobra style. Totally different drives and mounting methods. The Cobra drives were also very lightly built for the 3.0L engines. They used an outboard lower gear case with small gears. You would destroy it in a heart beat if you tried to put 200 hp against it, plus you can't get it regeard with the proper gear ratio because they aren't available with the small gear case.

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

No..again an answer would be if they had experience. And the person that told me it was a 400 was the OMC dealer that does the work on it. Weird.They said I had a OMC400 which was kind of compared to a Alpha outdrive for Merc.

Just telling someone to buy a different boat or some other stupid answer isnt worth it. I read, maybe some of its good, most is BS I am seeing. Sorry if i like being a bit different..maybe in the next life I will be like most here and just buy a new boat and let others do all the work on it and remain clueless, be smarter!!

Pfft that. If I blow it..it blows. Its only money!!

 

[Laddies]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Cody, back to the original question about how much HP a 400 stinger will hold and live, sorry everyone ignored your question. With alittle luck it should hold up to 25 or 30 HP in calm water 8)

 

[Coors]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Kinda like putting a 427 in front of a gm 10 bolt rear end?

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Sorry I had a question that no one knows, shows me to stick to the performance boat forums, least they try things and do there best to answer questions with truth, and data to back it. We try things on the bikes that people laugh at..till it works. Heck I have a friend working on dual turbo GSXR1300 sportbike. And he is doing it. Sometimes you function..some times you fail. But have fun doing it!

Yeah I do things different. People thought I was crazy with a computer in my boat, now they want me to do theirs. Kinda funny watching them use your boat to check their email..but I like being different.

I will keep looking for people with real answers, with data. Worst case..I frag the drive. Whoopie..then I have to put a tougher one on there and will throw a bigger engine as well. My boat had a 5.0 as an option..I have faith in it. I love this little boat, thats all that matters I reckon!!

 

[Coors]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

it has been tried, and failed; put a 427 in a car, drag race with 10 bolt rear end (your 400) and tow trucks come into picture. Not being narrow-minded; we have been there

 

[paulie0735]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Pfft that. If I blow it..it blows. Its only money!!

I own 2 hi-performance boats and enjoy them every chance I get. I stand by my comment, if you want a faster boat than buy a faster boat, making a slow boat fast is fraught with problems because they are not designed to be modified the way some bikes and cars are. But the most important factor that I and I assume the rest of the board here is concerned about is actually your safety. In case you hadn't realised blowing your drive unit and subsequently being stranded on the water with no way of powering or maneuvering your boat may very well get you and your loved ones KILLED!!!!! Not to mention you’re seemingly total disregard for the safety of those who you seem to think will just drop everything and come rescue you. No body here is against Hi-performance boats but a breakdown in a boat is potentially a very serious situation, it’s not like rolling to a stop with a blown transmission in your car or bike. It’s a potentially deadly scenario and one that has cost countless people their life over the years. I for one am not going to advise you to increase the odds of it happening.

If you still don’t get it than …………. Pfft you!

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

I dont want to turn my 19' Bayliner into the 25' baja I had..I just want a bit more performance. I dont need to buy a bigger/faster boat, I am building one. And I know a boat isnt a bike, but I am sure it was NOT designed and built at its limits stock. Dont see many company's engineering things that are at the fragile limit of its abilities. And WHERE did I say others will "drop everything" and rescue me? Obviously you have NO clue about me..dont assume like you are as its not becoming on you. I am the safest person most know. I have a freekin halon system sitting here waiting to go on my little boat. Overkill? You dang right..its MY safety. I also have sensors that detect water that connect to my boats computer, have a drain hole alarm if I forget to put it in, carbon monoxide alarm in my engine compartment, etc. See I think my and others safety are key, so dont throw crap out there and think it will land on me because I aint the one.

I am all about pushing the limits safely. And when you blow a tranny in a bike..you dont coast to a stop..you generally highside. Guess these boats and bikes aint so different after all..difference is a blown outdrive will still float usually.

 

[paulie0735]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

well, seems you have all the answers.......... what was your question again?

 

[Don S]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

I guess we are all in a no-win situation here.
He goes to a performance board, doesn't get the answers he wants, and he finds his way here.
We also don't give him the answers "He Wants" to hear. Here is what he wanted to someone to say for those that missed it.

I dont want to just hear what I want to hear, I want to hear real answers like "yes I did it and it worked" or " I did this and fragged my outdrive" etc.

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Imagine that. You are complaining I only read what I want to hear yet you are just hearing what you want to. Wow..what ARE the odds?

I got answers there, and yes I came here to find out MORE. Sorry I just don't take the 1st answer without asking more..what EVER was I thinking?? I mean.. getting more input on something?!?! GASP!!

Man I bet yalls mechanics make a TON on yall since you just take the 1st answer given!!

 

[Coors]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

yep; so the answer is, " yes, it'll work great" 8)

 

[wncrjb]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Pfft that. If I blow it..it blows. Its only money!!

With a mindset like that, why did you ask in the first place?

 

[bucky7680]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

[ but I am sure it was NOT designed and built at its limits stock. Dont see many company's engineering things that are at the fragile limit of its abilities.
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Ihave owned a Bayliner and several of my friends own them. They are great boats for what they are built for. They are a minimalist boat. Minimal price and minimal engineering they are what the are. Is this boat a family heirloom? Why do you want to keep it. I personally don.t have time for such a project. Most if not all the posters on this thread have had boats that did not perform as well as they wanted so they upgraded to a faster boat .I had an 90 capri with a 5.0 and I sold it last year for 70% of what I paid for it new. You ask for advice and then you are mad at people for giving it to you. I've only been a member of this site for a short time but I know who's advice is good and who's is bad. If DonS says don't do it then probably it should not be done.
My final words are, "Go for it make it work then come back and rub our noses in it we can take it".

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Love the lines..paid cash for it..I just really enjoy the boat. So to me..its worth it. I am not worried about osing money on it as I dont plan on selling it. Trust me..im not mad. Just kills me the simple mindset of "sell it", seems that what you see the most here. Not try something..just sell it. I know Bayliner didnt engineer this boat to do 90mph. I started tearing it apart to redo the interior (bench seat vs back jump seats..2 captains chairs vs the fore/aft seats..new carpet..upgrade my boats computer) and see they didnt get the finish that most may have, But its what I enjoy..redoing things. Making things unusual. I found faster boats when I bought this one for about the same price..but wanted these lines. I seen the possibility in it. I got it for $3500 so its not like I sold the farm for it!!

I thought maybe the gears could be coated or heat treated..that usually helps parts..something. I mean 180-200hp isnt asking much I thought from a outdrive, maybe it is. All I hear is people say it wont work. WHY wont it work? What would I see fail? Shaft? Gears? Cogs? Pins? I mean if we just settled, we would still be driving horse buggys like they are in Iowa!!

 

[paulie0735]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Yes all the drive components can be treated. Would anybody here think it a reasonable thing to do? No! But you go for it! Nobody here stopping you, we are just offering you advise based on what we would do! Remember we didn't offer the advice until you asked for it!!!!!!!!!! but you do what you want. FYI, its not that we haven’t done things like you have planned, quite the opposite actually but over the years people here have learned a few things about boats and what they will and won't do. So, go do it and learn, we are just trying to save you some cash, but you got plenty of that so go spend it on some heat treated gears, pins and shafts, a nice shinny new prop and your ‘so simple anybody can do it’ turbo conversion. Let us know how it goes up!

Oh and BTW your way outta line with that last crack re the decent folk in Iowa, I’m not even American and I found that offensive!

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Iowa has a large omish population, I just moved from there after living there for 10 years. Learn to relax. And I did NOT say turbos were easy for anyone. They are for me..not for anyone as I do it for a living.

This is rediculous. I asked a simple question and without any solid resons people just say cant do it and sell it and crap like that. Heres a hint..if you dont have real input..dont respond. Really. I am searching now and finding the info i need, from people doing it, guess they just had better luck than yall. I just wanted input from folks who KNOW..I am not putting a 454 to it people..there ARE other engines out there!

 

[Don S]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

I mean if we just settled, we would still be driving horse buggys like they are in Iowa!!

Not everyone in Iowa is driving a horse and buggy, so I assume this is some kind of ethnic slurr against someones beliefs.
Personsally, from what I have read of your postings, you would be the guy in the buggy with a long straw stuck up the horses butt, blowing on it (pre turbo method) and yelling Hi Ho Silver- Away and hoping for more speed.

Go back to your other forum, we have no use for you here.

 

[paulie0735]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Iowa has a large omish population, I just moved from there after living there for 10 years.

Its Amish....... after 10 years?? That does kinda some it up.

 

[CodyGrizz]

Re: What HP can a OMC400 outdrive take?

Gee..you assume I am using ethnic slurs now? Grow up. Its an Iowa joke..people in iowa do it all the time as well as others, heck even the Amish joke about it. So dont assume..its not good for you.

And again..if you dont have an actual answer..stay off my question.