What is better for a lake fishing boat?

ritamigo

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Fiberglass or aluminum hull? @ stroke or 4 stroke engine? And lastly ideal size?

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You're gonna need a bigger post.

What lake? How many people? What kind of fishing? What budget? Etc...
 

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I am in Ocala, Florida, so the lakes are not large. I fish also in the Rainbow River. Also small. I fish for bass..etc. I have a Hydra-Sport with a 70hp. Works great. Today I saw a aluminum boat with a Yamaha 50 hp 4 stroke. The budget is about 15-18,000. people: 4 at best or 2 fishing.

Please advise.

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Agreed. Conditions will dictate your needs. Lake Erie is a lot different from the pond down the road. However, very generally speaking, aluminum boats are a bit cheaper and easier to maintain. You can fix practically anything on them with materials and tools form the local hardware store. They also tend to handle scrapes, scratches, dints and dings better. Kind of like blue jeans vs. slacks. On the other hand, fiberglass boats are shinny, pretty, and have nice smooth edges so they may be a bit more practical for the wife and kids.
As far as motors go the debate between 4-stroke and 2-stroke motors generally comes down to gas mileage and maintenance. Again very generally speaking, 4-strokes get better mileage and are quieter like modern cars, BUT they are much heavier than a 2-stoke of equal hp and use lots of black box, electronic wizardry to squeeze all they can out of the fuel, which means if something goes wrong, you probably won't be able to fix it yourself. They also tend to cost more upfront and there isn't much of a "vintage" market for them for parts, etc... Instead, your motor's magic black box, will have to talk your the mechanic's magic black box and then he'll charge you $150 for an "hour" worth of labor before he's even picked up a wrench. 2-strokes are generally simpler, lighter at a given hp and have more torque on the low end than most 4-stokes. However, they can be a little louder and eat more gas.
Again, these are broad genralizations and there are of course exceptions to every rule, but aluminum/2-stoke combos are a bit more utilitarian (there's a reason Jon boats are generally aluminum and not glass), whereas f'glass/4-stoke combos tend more towards the pleasure boat side of things.

Let the debate and dissent begin!


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There's a reason you don't see many folks here in the forums trying, or able to save their old 4-stokes, but the old 2-stokes just keep going, and going, and going.... My 20 hp is 12 years older than I am and still running strong ;) Plus, all the old timers at the dock get a kick out of it, and I usually start in pone pull and leave the dock while the fancy, 4-stoke guys are still trying to fire up their stealth bomber of a motor and scratching their heads.
 
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Good advice kfa4303!

If I fished only fresh, I would prefer an tinny. I fish both salt and fresh so I own a glass. Size of boat and motor is dependent on who you take and what you do. I fish back country, so a small draft is important. If you fish deep, it doesn't matter much. Truth is, if I fished a lot of lakes, I'd probably end up with a pontoon. Some of those babies are pretty darn cool and you can do a lot of stuff...fish, swim, b-b-q, sunbathe nekked! :eek:....
 

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...don't forget the slides and swim up bars :) There are some fire-breathing toons out there too. I think they're starting to shed a bit of their lazy boater image and instead being seen as giant, aluminum platform you can do virtually anything with. They also sell "mini-toons" which are just like their big sisters, but in the 10'-14' range rather than the 20'+ range. Much easier to trailer and pretty cool lookin' too.
 

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For me, you can't beat a wide aluminum boat with a 4 stroke motor for fishing freshwater.
 

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I've cast my vote. See my sig. Alum boat with small 4-stroke (ironically, not much wizardry in it, yet my big O/B is a 2-stroke with lots o' wizardry!)

Small O/B's are still pretty basic. Whatever deal you can land is best. Modern 2-strokers can be clean and efficient, but 4-strokers in the small range aren't so complicated and heavy that one should shy away.
 

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For me, you can't beat a wide aluminum boat with a 4 stroke motor for fishing freshwater.

+1 for the jiggy man. Light, tough, comfy, easy to handle and maintain, long lasting, and cheap in comparison to glass. Not knocking glass boats as they definitely have their advantages, but from what you've said a metal boat is calling your name.
 

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one down side of the tin is that they are LOUD when you drop something on the floor (sinker, achor chain) bang the sides, etc.. A solid hull like a whaler or carolina skiff have the advantages of tin boat of comparable size (stable, shallow draft), but are quieter.
 

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one down side of the tin is that they are LOUD when you drop something on the floor (sinker, achor chain) bang the sides, etc.. A solid hull like a whaler or carolina skiff have the advantages of tin boat of comparable size (stable, shallow draft), but are quieter.

Wow... talk about input? Thanks. What about the aluminum handing underwater obstacles, like trree stumps...etc... versus FG?

Thanks all....

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You have been given alot of good advice, you realy dont want to hit anything with either boat, to many verables to give much of a direction here, except alum will often bend before tearing but not always.

Older alum boats are much better than old fiberglass, just because polyester resin absorbs water over time and the older fibergass boats often if not kept very dry will be very heavy and water logged.
 

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Wow... talk about input? Thanks. What about the aluminum handing underwater obstacles, like trree stumps...etc... versus FG?

Thanks all....

JoeVee

It's the difference between BANG and CLUNK
 

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It works great. I just have a chance to buy a 19 ft Carolina Skiff DXL at a very low price. In great condition. I would like a bigger boat because I can take my grand kids along. I understand that the SKIFF is a good lake boat. If I buy it, I can sell my Hydra for $2000, if anyone is interested. The motor has about 150 hours based on the information from the last owner., It works well, even though it is an old boat.

Thanks all again.... great advise.

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It works great. I just have a chance to buy a 19 ft Carolina Skiff DXL at a very low price. In great condition. I would like a bigger boat because I can take my grand kids along. I understand that the SKIFF is a good lake boat. If I buy it, I can sell my Hydra for $2000, if anyone is interested. The motor has about 150 hours based on the information from the last owner., It works well, even though it is an old boat.

Thanks all again.... great advise.

JoeVee

I'm confuzzed amigo. I thought we were looking at an aluminum boat with a fifty horse Yammy.:confused: Anywho, I know zip about Carolina Skiffs except that I've heard nothing but good stuff about them. Regarding noise from dropping things in an aluminum boat; a little carpet will eliminate that issue.
 

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I guess the carolina is fiberglass, sorry i thought it was aluminum. All the same. appreciate the input very much.

Thanks all...

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I see. Yes, Carolina Skiffs are glass boats, and by all accounts good ones. As I said I've never even boarded one.
 

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The 221 Starcraft Islander has a repuation of being a pretty good big lake boat.
I'll let you know for sure when I take mine out for its maiden run:)
 

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Older alum boats are much better than old fiberglass, just because polyester resin absorbs water over time and the older fibergass boats often if not kept very dry will be very heavy and water logged.

I never knew that about resin absobing water. I always though it was just the foam.
Is it the resin itself that absorbs water or tiny spaces in the resin?
 
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