What ya think?

[KellyC]

Ok all my friends out there, I need to know an honest opinion on this boat.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/boa/2141977303.html

I am thinking that there could be a few parts on her that I could use on my islander, like that outdrive especially. Yea the motor has a crack in it but it may just be an external water jacket crack as well, the guy does not know. But I do like the bow rails on it as well and maybe even make the top work on my girl. Just would like an opinion on it.

 

[veilside180sx]

Re: What ya think?

It's popped up several times. The seller seems pretty genuine.

You can run the glass boat, and donate the Islander to me (I'll add the offshore bracket it deserves).=) lol

 

[KellyC]

Re: What ya think?

It's popped up several times. The seller seems pretty genuine.

You can run the glass boat, and donate the Islander to me (I'll add the offshore bracket it deserves).=) lol

Hmmmm, an outboard bracket. Just when I was thinking of just redoing the parts that I currently have with those parts and then you go and say something like that. How about I donate the glass boat to you after I get the parts I want off of it, would even through in the trailer.

 

[veilside180sx]

Re: What ya think?

Hmmmm, an outboard bracket. Just when I was thinking of just redoing the parts that I currently have with those parts and then you go and say something like that. How about I donate the glass boat to you after I get the parts I want off of it, would even through in the trailer.

Tempting...if you had an outboard bracket you wouldn't need to steal the outdrive.=)

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: What ya think?

Kelly You need to quit procrastinating over what to do with the Islander and get with the project. I thought it was decided that you were installing a stern bracket and going O/B with it.?????????????????????You can get the glass Starcraft but the $ 500 for it will commit you to fixing your I/O. Is that what you really want to do. Times a wasting Bud. Spring is just around the corner and almost time for the Boat shows.

 

[Bwana Don]

Re: What ya think?

Starcrafter65 fixed a water leak in his 3.0 liter with JB weld. You might be able to save that engine. IMHO if you want an outboard find an outboard boat and sell the I/O. Conversions are tricky, and expensive and I don't recall anyone showing me a successful one. I found just the opposite on this site. It's talked about forever, but not one happy conversion. Thats my .02 cents. Best of luck.

Has anyone out there done an I/O to outboard conversion and been satisfied with the results?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: What ya think?

Yah dude...

I think you should probably commit to going the OB on a bracket route or commit to running the IO. (I am still deciding if mine should be an IO or an OB)

Like my buddy Don said, the idea has sure been kicked around a lot. On our Islanders, I really think the bracket conversion can be done successfully (so long as it's done right). Once you make that decision, you'll have a much better direction.

Had I not found that Baja donor for such a good deal I am almost certain that I would have gone the bracket route.

Is that glasser Islander a good deal?

I dunno, are you going the IO route?

Much heart buddy!

 

[KellyC]

Re: What ya think?

Ok here it is, no OB for my islander. Just to much money to do the conversion and add the OB. I was actually just kidding with Veilside when I said that. Looking into it all and trying to find something that would really work just has not been in the cards. That is why I was looking at the glass SC for some parts, just thought I would toss it out there to see if you guys thought it was a good deal or not. I am not to bright when it comes to spending money on things like that. Figured that the outdrive was worth at least that but do not know for sure and that is why I asked. I am committed to doing the IO guys, just trying to find something that will work for me is all. Having to work on the boat outside is also a drag and hard to do. Not able to bring it inside as the freaking thing is just to big to fit into my garage and cannot do any mods to garage as it is a rental. Sorry guys, do not mean to be a pain.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: What ya think?

Well then, sounds great!!!

(says the other poor soul with the IO)

I do think that donor boat might be a good deal IF...

#1 ...the OD is in excellent shape.

#2 ...the trailer is in good shape (to be sold to recoup the costs).

#3 ...you have a plan for that big ol glass boat once you are done with her.

I think if I were in a position where I needed another OD I would be leaning hard towards a new one from SEI. At $1300 with a 3 year no fault warranty, it's a tough deal to beat.

If you can get yourself a donor boat cheap with a OD THAT YOU KNOW is in good shape (checked by a marine tech) and then turn around and sell the donor for what you paid for it, that would also be a sweet way to go.

Rock on my IO brotha!

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: What ya think?

Kelly Your not a pain . We want you to do what you want and will always try our best to help with wisdom we have learned. from this Forum. I do agree with Jason asfar as a rebuilt 3 year warranty over a used one that you will have to spend a lot more time on to have it ready to install. A warranty on a rebuilt is hard to pass up and the ones we hear of seem to be reliable. Do what you need to do. Were still here to help. Puguetsound

 

[86 century]

Re: What ya think?

I don't know about you area but an alpha 1 that works around here is worth 3-500. I have six out there i think they sell great in may and june when people find that water ready boat they bought in the winter was sold when it could not be run for a reason.
If it were near me I would buy it if the drive tests good.

Good Luck

 

[North Beach]

Re: What ya think?

Kelly, you gotta go at this thing at YOUR speed! Some folks spend a good deal of time trying to acclimate themselves to the arena they've been thrust into and I don't fault you for doing that. If you rush into things like I do you end up with a bunch of parts laying around that you don't need and that can be expensive!

My vote (which means absolutely nothing when it comes to spending your money) would be to see if you can make the outdrive you have work. If the casings aren't cracked and the drive shaft cleans up then there's only so much that could be wrong with it. Heck, I have two here and if you need a this or that I'd be more than happy to pull them and send em your way. I'm not tryin to go expert here but I seem to remember when I was doing my 66 that SEI didn't make a replacement for the MC Type 1a which is what you'd need to match up to that rubber ehaust downpipe on the inside of the boat. When we went with the newer 130 HP motor from an 89 we had to Mcguyver an exhaust downpipe using parts from both. It's all hard piped on the newer stuff.

 

[KellyC]

Re: What ya think?

Oh I have thought of a brand new SEI outdrive and like that idea as well. But one of the reasons I was thinking of the glass boat is because it has all the parts from the motor back. The part that holds the outdrive and pivots up and down has a crack in it on mine, it is cracked from the top to the center of the piece. Glass boat also has a good hydrolic system as mine does not, my pump is even shot in it. The glasss boat has a trailer that is not great according to the add but am sure I could still sell it for a little bit. Now on a little more spendy side I did find an SEI outdrive that has everything from the motor back for $950. It also includes the hydrolics as well and the full gimble mount. The motor that goes with it has been sold and this is a salvage yard so I would not have to deal with the getting rid of a glass hull either. But then again that is $450 more than the glass boat that I might be able to recoup some of the money back from.

 

[North Beach]

Re: What ya think?

Kelly, are you replacing your motor as well?

And I'm also pretty sure all these prices that are being thrown around for an SEI don't include the gimble ring and bell housing. Which piece is cracked? The ring or the housing?

I also have two complete transom assemblies here including the tilt pumps and they will probably end up going to the scrap yard!

 

[KellyC]

Re: What ya think?

Kelly, are you replacing your motor as well?

If I could find one that is good I would but at this point I am not. But then I do not know how well it runs at this point either. I do know that it has good compression but that is all that I know about it at this point. Seems that these motors are not the easiest thing in the world to find around here.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: What ya think?

This is some good stuff here Kelly. NB makes some great points!

I'd say your priority is to see if that motor is running well before you do anything else. If you have a messed up OD, Gimble Housing, Transom Assembly, trim pump, and a shoddy motor I'd say you are definitely looking for a good donor boat complete with everything you need. Going about it piece by piece will break the bank man! If you have a good running motor maybe NB could fix you up with the rest of what ya need.

 

[North Beach]

Re: What ya think?

Yeah JAS, I'm just sayin it's easier to swap the motor and leave the outdrive in place than it is to swap the outdrive and leave the motor in place. Based on what I've done in the last season. Or, you just yank it all out and swap in a donor motor and outdrive (something newer). Honestly, the only diff between the 110 and a 120/140 is carberation. The internals, bore and stroke are exactly the same in my manuals. Now the bellhousing covers, exhaust manifolds, downpipes, etc are all different and some jury rigging has to be done. So if you can get your OD straightened out and you've got good compression you could get some miles on that tub!

 

[KellyC]

Re: What ya think?

Hey there Clay, was not sure you had the upper parts still bud.

This is the piece that is that is cracked, it is cracked where the red lines are at. The bottom one is on the inside of the piece and not on the bolt like it looks. And the entire hydrolic system is shot bud, no lines at all on the outside and the through hull for them is all dorked up as well. Pump will not work either, rams are shot as we have talked about before. They are not rebuildable or good for anything, tried getting them apart.....yea right.

As for the SEI outdrives, that price is for the outdrive only and nothing else. You have to have tilt and trim to use an SEI as well, it states so on thier home page or somewhere as I have read it there.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: What ya think?

Kelley Take the time to sit down with your favorite drink and a calculator. Figure out the min. cost as well as the max cost for the I/O leg and also the Motor ,as well as the Gimbal housing. Then figure the cost of material to install a OB bracket on the boat. you dont need a monster motor to start with as a 115 or 120 would work nice. You could always trade up. Next figure out how much time it would take you to do either change over. And will you have enough time before summer to do it. I agree with either way you go and everyone is right its you dollar doing the project. It worry's me that your in the middle of spinning your wheels and may gather enough parts at a bit of cost and still not be sure of where you are going. Wish you were closer than 480 miles or I would come down and look at it with you. I have had three I/Os and lots of O/B Motors. Big boats and little ones and never had repairs done in a shop. Pugetsound

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: What ya think?

I hafta say that boat is 500.00 less towards progress...500.00 stashed away while you keep an eye open for a 120/140 donor boat with a more modern (says mr. 1968 OD..lol) outdrive seems more sensible.

But then again..........Its me talking...