Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

ndemge

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Were remodeling our kitchen... cabinet guy calls asking for her to double check a measurement.... Toaster is plugged in, but not quite ALL the way in.

I'll let the picture speak the rest:

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ndemge

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

And yes, the outlets will be upgraded to GFCI in the kitchen..
 

crunch

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

That is absolutely shocking! Hope wife is ok?
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

That's just too close. She is OK I take. Did she get zapped?
 

Parrott_head

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

GFI outlets may not help you out much but arc sensing breakers might be an option to consider.
 

ndemge

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

Yeah, she's fine... she was... um... 64 1/2" inches away from it when it happened... It apparently made a great path to neutral instead of through her..... I have a fealing she dropped it pretty quick.
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

Ok, was she any more successful on her first attempt?:%
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

They have recently started making AFCI breakers - arc fault circuit interupter. They kill the power when it senses an arc, as a GFCI would when it sense water. If you are gonna be taking the outlets when you remodel, you should flip them over when reinstalling. Reason being, the ground is on top. That way, if a plug is not in all the way, and something falls on it, it will fall on the ground, and not on a live wire.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

I have a feeling she dropped it pretty quick

Laughed my A** off on that one..... I guess this is what I get to look forward to next week when we start our Kitchen remodel....
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

OMG!!! rickdb1boat, you got me thinking, wife and I are gonna start a new dining room addition :^:^:%
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

If you are gonna be taking the outlets(out) when you remodel, you should flip them over when reinstalling. Reason being, the ground is on top. That way, if a plug is not in all the way, and something falls on it, it will fall on the ground, and not on a live wire.

Good advice, probably be code in Oregon when the next revision comes out.
 

samsam

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

The outlet looks like "Buckwheat" in shock.
 

KaGee

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All local codes vary, but in a kitchen or bath, GFCI are code around here.

Some have made AFCI's code in bedrooms, but not here...yet. I've heard some negative talk about the AFCI's not worth the cost.
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...
I must have missed something what was the first attempt to burn down the house?
 

Reel Poor

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

I hope that was her tape measure and not yours. :^
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

samsam said:
The outlet looks like "Buckwheat" in shock.
LOL! IT REALLY DOES!!!
Check that out!
I'm just glad Mrs Ndemge is......
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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

The AFCI breakers - arc fault circuit interupter need a AFCI outlet to protect pluged in items

C&P

I have pressed the manufacturers of AFCI devices to demonstrate the superiority of the AFCI circuit breaker (as compared to a standard circuit breaker) in preventing a fire from loose terminals and connections. My challenge was specifically directed to Cutler-Hammer because they disputed some of the comments I made in my newsletters. Cutler-Hammer had offered many times to “demonstrate their AFCI technology,” but I refused this invitation. I requested, instead of their demonstration, a comparison test of AFCI circuit breakers against a standard circuit breaker, but Cutler-Hammer refused this request. As a result, I submitted a proposal October 30, 2002 to have the AFCI requirement removed from the NEC based on the following:

1. UL 1699, the AFCI standard, does not require the AFCI circuit breaker to protect against fires caused by arcing at loose connections, at loose wires in wire connectors, or at loose screws.

2. Many in the industry (including myself) felt that an AFCI protective device, as required by the NEC, will not significantly reduce the incidence of fires at loose terminations and connections and the AFCI protection device (as currently listed) will not prevent them.


Tommays
 

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Re: Wife's 2nd attempt to burn our house down...

Well.... glad everyone is okay!!!! Everybody loves a good shower of sparks..... but not in the house!!
 
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