won't start turning key choke

[tav]

need your honest opinion.........ever since I bought this boat (used)....2004 ,40 h.p 2 stroke it would never start with the key(choke) allways had to put the throttle
forward to start it. so I got fed up and brought to a mech., he said it as the choke sel.or sencor....what ever.....so he changed it and still it won't start with
the key. not to happy and yes I just made the phone call to him. so what else could be doing this so maybe I could put a bug in his ear. pretty pissed
off right now.....thanks all

 

[racerone]

Post your starting procedure in detail.--------Prime the bulb.---Raise the throttle only lever.-----Crank the motor over with key pushed in etc , etc---Do you have the owners manual ??

 

[Watermann]

Almost all carb motors with choke plates need to have the throttle advanced while applying choke during a cold start. Does yours have a primer solenoid or plates? If needing to have the throttle advanced is all it is then I don't see a problem, just advance the throttle and start her up.

 

[tav]

Then what's the purpose of having a key if you can start with the key. so your telling me that i can't start this motor by pressing in and turning the key useing the choke .........thats abunch of crap......gesss

 

[racerone]

???? Why you say " crap " here ????-------For the last 30 some years these outboards are started by pushing the key in while cranking it over.----You had best find an owners manual and read it or it could cost you some $$$$$

 

[Chinewalker]

The warm-up lever function is there for a reason. Use it! As racerone noted, you might be better off finding an owner's manual and reading it through...

 

[Tim Frank]

Then what's the purpose of having a key if you can start with the key. so your telling me that i can't start this motor by pressing in and turning the key useing the choke .........thats abunch of crap......gesss

Are you saying that the starter is not working? or just that you don't like the way that these motors have been designed for 30+ years?

 

[boobie]

Get an owners manual and READ the correct starting procedure !!

 

[tav]

i have no owners manual.....and there is no warm up lever. please simpilfy this for me. 1) i have a key with a push in turn choke. 2) so on this motor i wont beable to start the with the key? 3) the only way to start it is to advance the throttle? just wondering why the mech said it was your choke sencor stopping me from starting the motor with a key. so where do i get a manuel for this motor?

 

[racerone]

Most controls have a " warm-up " function of some sort.-----I say again , that you need to talk to a shop that will coach you on how to start this motor.---And find a manual to save you a bunch of $$$$

 

[tav]

i'm gonna take a pic of the throttle arm and well go from there.

 

[racerone]

Jumping up and down and saying that your boat does not have a warm up lever does not help.---Take the time to learn about your BOAT / MOTOR / CONTROL BOX----After you do that you might say-" does it ever start easy now "

 

[Watermann]

Here is a link that's at the top of the forum in a sticky.

http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...hnson-evinrude-cold-start-procedures?t=225510

 

[tav]

this is how i'm starting the motor with a single lever control



Remote Keyed Ignition

There are two basic types of fuel systems to aid in cold starting. Solenoid activated Choke plates and solenoid primers. The starting procedures are the same for each.

1. Place the motor in fast-idle and in neutral gear. Depending on your remote control box, this is acomplished in one of two manners. If you have a dedicated fast-idle lever pull that up between 3/4 to full. If you have a single-lever control and don't have a fast-idle lever, pull the throttle out to lock the engine in neutral and push the throttle forward. If you have a dual-lever control, leave the shifter in neutral, and advance the throttle.
2. Push the key in, activating the choke plates or primer.
3. Turn the key to start.
4. After the motor begins to run, release the key so it returns to the run position and disengages the choke/primer.
5. As the motor begins to stumble, bump the key in activating the choke/primer. You may need to do this several times until the motor can fast-idle on its own.
6. If you tilted your motor up for cold-start, lower the motor to its normal operating position.
7. Visually inspect tell-tale for solid stream indicating proper cooling.
8. As the motor warms up, slowly begin reducing the fast-idle until the motor is able to run in normal idle on its own.

 

[Bosunsmate]

yes thats it with a single lever no warm up lever.
If you find that such an inconvience then i predict there will be at least a couple of other things you wont like about boating

 

[tav]

yea ok. . for one thing this issue has nothing to do with boating. I was asking If I can use my key as a typical way of starting my boat, .
the only thing i'm up set about is that I was I paided $250 and the same problem is still happening, that's all i'm asking .

 

[Bosunsmate]

yea ok. . for one thing this issue has nothing to do with boating. I was asking If I can use my key as a typical way of starting my boat, .
the only thing i'm up set about is that I was I paided $250 and the same problem is still happening, that's all i'm asking .

I dont get what your problem is. Using the key to push a choke in and start the starter while also moving the single control forward (while its pulled out to keep the gear in neutral) is not a mechanical problem, thats the way its done. If you dont want to do that then you will need to design your own system.
If someone took $250 off you saying that they were going to change that then it sounds like you were ripped off.

Maybe i dont understand what you are saying your problem is, but if its moving the throttle forward to start it then its not a problem at all. My tractor needs a little bit of throttle to start and your outboard is the same

 

[tav]

i think i hear you........i can see doing that on a cold start(advance the throttle)....right? ..but if i didn;t advance the throttle will i be able to start the motor use just the key and choke providing i prime the bulb? or out on the water while the motor is warmed up. or is it the same theory?

 

[boobie]

Every motor is different and you're just going to have to learn the correct starting procedures for your motor weather hot or cold.

 

[Bosunsmate]

i think i hear you........i can see doing that on a cold start(advance the throttle)....right? ..but if i didn;t advance the throttle will i be able to start the motor use just the key and choke providing i prime the bulb? or out on the water while the motor is warmed up. or is it the same theory?

As Boobie says, different for every motor, but every johnson/evinrude ive had has required at least a little bit of throttle hot or cold, sometimes a moderate amount