Worth the divorce?

bajaman123

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15 years or so ago my wife and I bought a pair of used Sea Doos and have some of THE best times on them...so don't assume your wife might not like it. The big boat we keep at Table Rock Lake, the Sea Doos are used on local lakes and whilst camping, etc.
Go onto one of the Sea Doo forums for tips/hints/ideas on what is wrong with the Spark. And generally speaking when it comes to speedometers, they are easily repaired or replaced. Again...a dedicated forum for the make and models is a great resource.
 

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FWIW.....lots of lake homes or ocean front homes have nearly new jetskis sitting on a lift that dont get used ever. My neighbor scores them all the time from Lido Key and Siesta Key. they usually need a new cover, decals and vinyl some need a repaint. he is constantly buying, cleaning/repairing and flipping them.

@nola mike .....Me, I would flip them in a heart beat, take some of the winnings and buy the wife something shiny, then buy yourself something shiny (or put some money in your old truck)....... that would be a win-win.
 

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Me, I would flip them in a heart beat, take some of the winnings and buy the wife something shiny, then buy yourself something shiny (or put some money in your old truck).......

That is a great idea, make some points!!
 

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So....
Just scored a couple of PWCs. Run into my neighbor, he says he's pulling them out for the season, and is going to trailer them back a couple of hours and just wants to get rid of them. I ask how much. $1000. For 2 skis and the trailer. I, of course, immediately offer to buy them. So now they're mine.

Pros:
1. They each have 50 hours on them.
2. Professionally serviced yearly.
3. They both run. I actually took them out about a month ago. The Yamaha runs great except the speedo doesn't work. The sea doo ran for a while and then a CEL kept coming on, and eventually went into limp mode. No idea what the issue is.
4. Dual trailer is mint condition.
5. Holy crap, $1k?!

Cons:
1. The potential aformentioned divorce.
2. I have nowhere to put these things.
3. I don't know anything about them. One is a sea-doo spark, the other is a Yamaha of some sort. I couldn't find HINs today when I took a quick look.
4. Looks like I'll need some expensive diagnostic equipment for the sea doo.
5. I REALLY don't need more boats or projects.

Curious what I could get for these if I sold them, thinking easy $5-10k. But it would be poor form to flip them right away...
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I bought a can doo pro for my old sea doo (2004) just to reset the TPS . I think it was $400 back then and for the home edition You can have 4 HIN accessed by it. can purchase more HIN licenses and adapters for other makes as well like Yamaha. Would recommend it highly.


compared to new I can’t imagine she could be that upset. someones spent $25 k plus for those and the trailer when new …cheap way of getting a couple skis on the water.

my wife is the same way between the 4 daily drivers, my 65 GTO, boat, jetski, two riding mowers, compact tractor , and trying to maintain our home and my folks place on the lake , I’m always fixing something. I think it’s more a time issue than $
 
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The seadoo spark has a plastic hull ( an attempt to lower the cost)
They are all non fiber glass. Not sure if it’s the same material as the spark but the 2021 GTI 170 I bought last year has a composite hull. It’s a much bigger ski than the 2004 GTI we had but doesn’t weight much more. so ther are some weight savings not just cost. Of course the spark is a much lower price point.

bottom line once they get a few years old you gotta be committed to maintaining them and doing the work yourself, otherwise you’d dump them
 

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They are all non fiber glass. Not sure if it’s the same material as the spark
They're all made with something called "sheet molded compound". It looks a lot like bondo and chopper glass mixed together. They're made by injection molding. My supervisor has told me about it, but I've never seen it myself. Then SeaDoo started doing plastic outside, but there's still smc under it.
 

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They're all made with something called "sheet molded compound". It looks a lot like bondo and chopper glass mixed together. They're made by injection molding. My supervisor has told me about it, but I've never seen it myself. Then SeaDoo started doing plastic outside, but there's still smc under it.
I read about it with the Yamaha. Apparently their version is much lighter than traditional smc and stronger than fiberglass. Actually costs more.
I bought a can doo pro for my old sea doo (2004) just to reset the TPS . I think it was $400 back then and for the home edition You can have 4 HIN accessed by it. can purchase more HIN licenses and adapters for other makes as well like Yamaha. Would recommend it highly.


compared to new I can’t imagine she could be that upset. someones spent $25 k plus for those and the trailer when new …cheap way of getting a couple skis on the water.

my wife is the same way between the 4 daily drivers, my 65 GTO, boat, jetski, two riding mowers, compact tractor , and trying to maintain our home and my folks place on the lake , I’m always fixing something. I think it’s more a time issue than $
And now I need to find out how to get the glass on my convertible top replaced. Damn kid put the top up with his baseball bat sticking straight up. I swear it never ends.
 

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I read about it with the Yamaha. Apparently their version is much lighter than traditional smc and stronger than fiberglass. Actually costs more.

And now I need to find out how to get the glass on my convertible top replaced. Damn kid put the top up with his baseball bat sticking straight up. I swear it never ends.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Yeah mental image of that .
 

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Yeah mental image of that .
And now I need to find out how to get the glass on my convertible top replaced. Damn kid put the top up with his baseball bat sticking straight up. I swear it never ends.

A few years back our then 16 yr old said a trash can blew into her while (driving home from work one evening)... a hole was in the front bumper plastic ... turns out the 'garbage can' was a steel 9 yd can in the work parking lot... and it was the front not rear bumper ... need a bull seeing red imogee
 

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They're all made with something called "sheet molded compound". It looks a lot like bondo and chopper glass mixed together. They're made by injection molding. My supervisor has told me about it, but I've never seen it myself. Then SeaDoo started doing plastic outside, but there's still smc under it.
yeah I saw some videos on repairing them using plastic welding tools and filler rod. Actually have done some of this at work with PVC. Made me feel better if there is an issue that one could repair it. Certainly is a much bigger ski (at least 40%) and only weighs like 150 lbs more than the old 2 stroke.

My dad didn't feel comfortable on the new GTI so I was thinking of picking up a spark for him as he liked to do donuts and slalom around the no wake buoys at edge of the cove. The used sparks are relatively cheap, real inexpensive way to get on the water
 

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And now I need to find out how to get the glass on my convertible top replaced. Damn kid put the top up with his baseball bat sticking straight up. I swear it never ends.
so selling the jetskis to buy the wife something shiny and now fixing the top?
 

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so selling the jetskis to buy the wife something shiny and now fixing the top?
She was actually ok with the skis as long as I get rid of the project ski on the side of the house. Maybe should start a new thread, but everyone says the whole top needs replaced to the tune of $3-4k. I can find used glass, but only 1 upholster I found will do it. Any idea if the whole top actually needs replaced? I'm sure you wouldn't do that with your car. Just an aftermarket top is $2k, and I definitely can't handle another project. The one guy did the top on my buddy's 67 Camaro, and he's got great reviews so assume he's capable. He wants $300 or so, and I'm seeing used glass $150-300. Insurance claim would be $1k deductible and not sure how that would affect my rates
 

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If you can find the glass, gluing it in is easy

3M has a convertible top glass adhesive. (Typical repair )

from my solstice links

3M Window Weld Urethane (such as part #08609 or #08693). This black, high-viscosity automotive urethane stays flexible as the top moves and matches the factory repair standard outlined in GM Technical Bulletin 06-08-57-002C.

I used magnets, big washers and tape to hold it while the urethane cured. I think the tube of urethane was $15.

if you can caulk a boat seam, you can replace the window yourself.
 

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If you can find the glass, gluing it in is easy

3M has a convertible top glass adhesive. (Typical repair )
Strange that no shops will do it, and no aftermarket glass is sold. I'm told the newer tops are built differently and not made to be have glass installed separately. I'll put Saran wrap on it before I spend $4k on a top.
Luckily there are no shortages of minis that are cheaper to scrap than to get to run
 

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Strange that no shops will do it, and no aftermarket glass is sold.
replacement is 16 hours of labor for the shop. repair is at most 30 minutes worth of labor

I am pretty sure that most glass shops can get aftermarket glass. I found used glass for as little as $150 with a quick search.
 

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yeah I saw some videos on repairing them using plastic welding tools and filler rod. Actually have done some of this at work with PVC.
They can be fixed with glass. I wouldn't trust a plastic weld on that for anything more than a tiny crack or pinhole.
I read about it with the Yamaha. Apparently their version is much lighter than traditional smc and stronger than fiberglass. Actually costs more.
Maybe on paper, but I don't think so. It seems to seperate worse than glass when taking damage. So a hit to smc will take worse damage than a similar hit to glass.
 

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They can be fixed with glass. I wouldn't trust a plastic weld on that for anything more than a tiny crack or pinhole.

Maybe on paper, but I don't think so. It seems to seperate worse than glass when taking damage. So a hit to smc will take worse damage than a similar hit to glass.
Done right the plastic weld is a good repair. Just need to know what you are doing and have the right materials. getting access to both sides V notching and feathering it are key. Similar to automotive bumper repair right materials and right process, which are hard for the home mechanic.

Yes - on the forums there is a lot of comments about skis getting totalled due to hull cracks etc. Our ski is 170 hp and is plenty fast enough, the supercharged ones are just insanely fast, so no wonder hulls crack.
 
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