WOT on 4.3 merc

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Re: WOT on 4.3 merc

The previous owner saw much higher speeds with the same props. Tachs were checked. The boat should run 46-49 at WOT. I am seeing 39mph at 4000rpm. Yes the drives and tabs were trimmed properly
 

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I think it may be the fuel pumps or exhaust shutter/flapper.
 

Tail_Gunner

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Damm.... yes you have a prop problems...even though you have duals that engine weight combo cannot turn 19's....Two engines will not change top speed all they do is assist hole shot and planing speed...If your did not have duals you would not even get out of the hole..

:D Ok let me slow down a bit...I have a 19' boat 220hp 4.3 does 56 at 4900 with a 21p prop...Its 3400lbs with me and the gas..few beers. Now if i add 6' feet of length and 7000lbs of people...thats 30 plus people....Is that boat going to slow down a bit...;)
 

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:D Ok let me slow down a bit...I have a 19' boat 220hp 4.3 does 56 at 4900 with a 21p prop...Its 3400lbs with me and the gas..few beers. Now if i add 6' feet of length and 7000lbs of people...thats 30 plus people....Is that boat going to slow down a bit...;)

I have a 22' doral aft cabin that weighs around 4500lbs plus gas.it has a 4.3lx with a 14.5 17p prop on it . with me and the girlfriend on it it runs about 40mph at 4200 wot, if i add three people it will barley get on plane at 4000 wot. so i changed to a 15p prop and am putting it in this weekend i will post my results.
 

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These are the original props put on by Regal. I have spoken with several other owners with the same boat using the same prop and they are seeing the same speed and WOT that the specifications from Regal call for. I have met 2 owners that are running 14.25 diameter with 21P and they are seeing WOT and 46-49mph.
 

Robbabob

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Well then. Is it possible you are carrying more weight than you think? Perhaps you have water soaked some where.
 

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I don't think so. It is a freshwater boat, super clean. I bought it last year and had a full survey. Also I have spent every available minute on it (that my wife will allow) and have only been more and more impressed with the condition of the boat. I might have the fuel pumps tested. I don't know what else to do.
 

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Someone, I think Bond-o, mentioned the UNlikelyhood it is mechanical as how odd it would be for BOTH engines to come down with it. Unless there is only one fuel pump. How about one gas tank? Could the vent be plugged restricting the flow of fuel?

I think you need to look at a common link between the engines. If everything is tip top shape, then you haven't found the problem yet. Again.... everyone with your same boat, same motors, same weight, same fuel filling, even the past owner, , , gets better speed at higher rpm than you. Don't know that we can help any further. Find the problem or prop down 2"...
 

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Checking the vent today. Makes sense. Common link. Thanks. Will report back
 

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Hopefully the other owners arn't "B S'in" you. Everybody likes to brag up their boat. Seems like a lot of boat for the engines you got there. The smallest engines I've seen in boats that size were 5.7L Mercs, but then again I haven't been around that many boats that size.
 

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And that speed will never be repeated ^^^^^ Let's back up. Need the gear ratio. I don't have the ability to get this from the S/Ns. Anybody? If these are 1.81s then the tachs are wrong, if they are 1.62s then the data appears to be good. How have the tachs been checked? 4.3s are very common twins in 28 footers. What drives?
 

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I did some checking with various sisterships offered for sale. My guess is that yours are the 190 horse engines, and I am pretty dang confident you are close to max speed. There are many of these out there with the Volvo 220s and they are not reaching high 40s. If the tachs are right, then props are not. If the tachs are wrong then the props may have too much pitch, but I do not think you have a confirmed performance problem at this point. I do think you have the 1.81 ratio and that tells me the tachs are off too . . . How were they "checked"?

I cannot explain the high readings stored on the GPS unless it was on the trailer, but one thing you can take to the bank: personal boats, with stuff on board NEVER reach original test speeds. They just don't, and you can find 1000s of examples. My boat "tested" at 62, and I have maxed at 57, I have played with props and weight balance and thrown everything out except the key and still nothing higher. It's just the way it is.

Why do I harp on this? Because you will spend thousands chasing a phantom if it is indeed a phantom. Right now I am leaning towards phantom problem. Fuel pumps, timing, ignition issues, vents etc. all need to be confirmed with proper diagnostics, not with guesses. Altitude? hadn't thought of that until this minute. Do you have fuel flow info? If they're flowing the rated fuel, then they are most likely making the rated power. Stuff like that is really important to this discussion . . . Good luck. We will help with whatever we can.
 

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Mechanic checked the tachs yesterday and they are accurate. I know I may never see max WOT but I would like to be in the range. Even 44-4500rpm. Thanks so much for all the advice.
 

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I forgot to add: this is the 2nd time the tachs have been checked.
 

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Mechanic checked the tachs yesterday and they are accurate. I know I may never see max WOT but I would like to be in the range. Even 44-4500rpm.
If this is true, and there is nothing wrong with the engines, then you need to pitch down. Need the gear ratios.
 

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Gear ratio for the one SN he posted is 1.81
 

QC

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Thanks Don. The tachs, or the speed or the pitch is wrong. One data piece is wrong. I am 100% convinced. There is no way that boat achieves 1.9% slip. None.

Edit: Oh and that also confirms the 190 horse engines. I don't believe that boat ever ran 46, let alone 49. Just too much boat and too little horsepower to expect that. BTW, I almost bought one of these. She is still sitting in a boatyard, Twin DPs. Very roomy and very big 28 footer.
 

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I am seeing 39mph at 4000rpm. I would just like to get it in the WOT range of 44-48. Speedo and GPS are accurate. Even ran next to a buddy and compared speeds. I don't know what it will do but I would like to see WOT. Just flushed Port motor on land and exhaust is not coming out of the lower unit it is coming out below the transom. May have plugged exhaust.
 
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