Ford 302 pinging

[Scott06]

that is a lot of blood, sweat and beers

Had to move past beers to margaritas...

 

[Scott Danforth]

Had to move past beers to margaritas...

I used to have a bottle of Kesslers and a few 12-packs of Leinies in the garage fridge.....

 

[Jakem]

Well that's commitment to both the car and the booze lol

 

[Jakem]

I've been meaning to ask this. My boat is hard to start cold. I have to pump throttle first 4 or 5 times and it usually takes a few rounds of that until it stays running on its own. Unless I lean into it a bit with the throttle. Seems odd to me

 

[Scott Danforth]

I've been meaning to ask this. My boat is hard to start cold. I have to pump throttle first 4 or 5 times and it usually takes a few rounds of that until it stays running on its own. Unless I lean into it a bit with the throttle. Seems odd to me

choke out of adjustment, verify that the accelerator pump is indeed squirting

 

[Jakem]

In theory should I be able to just turn the key with out pumping...beings it's old school technology..or a few pumps firat

 

[Lou C]

In theory should I be able to just turn the key with out pumping...beings it's old school technology..or a few pumps firat

Not exactly...
old school carbed engines in an auto application used an auto choke and a fast idle system, that allowed the engine to keep running on the choke, it needs like 1500 rpm to keep running when cold. In an auto application this happens automatically but in a marine application an automatic fast idle would be dangerous banging into gear, etc. In a carbed boat you must set the fast idle yourself. So to start an old school carbed boat you:
depending on how your remote control works you dis-engage the shift system, on some you push a button in the center on others you pull the handle towards you (old style OMC)...
Then, pump the throttle 2-3 times, and the last time advance it about 1/4, that will set your fast idle. On mine when I do that it catches right away. Let it warm up at 1200-1500 rpm, after a couple minutes bring it back to slow idle....that's it.
Leaving it at idle in neutral no pumping will not work on any carbed engine, that works only with EFI.

 

[Jakem]

Ok right...that's what I do just more pumps...if I pump and then leave it ahead of idle like you say then it works yes...so basically I'm good

 

[Scott Danforth]

In theory should I be able to just turn the key with out pumping...beings it's old school technology..or a few pumps firat

one full pump to set the choke and prime

throttle only to about 1/4

then turn key

just like a 1970 pickup truck

 

[Scott Danforth]

I havent run a choke in years (being in florida, I boat between 70 and 95)

so for me, one pump, about 1/8 throttle and turn the key and the motor roars to life about 1200 RPM. then after a minute, I back away from the dock and head down river. after about 75 feet of idling, I get to the normal channel and just go.

 

[Jakem]

I was going to go vidio from start and also choke to show how it's set...however it is going to be -10 tonight

 

[Scott06]

In theory should I be able to just turn the key with out pumping...beings it's old school technology..or a few pumps firat

no you need to pump the throttle to set the choke (close it), advancing it in a boat works like the fast idle cam on a automotive application does. the combo of coke closed (is yours adjusted right) and slightly open throttle pulls more fuel in to richen the mixture.

If you had fuel contamination you may have idle circuits that are plugged.

In the summer I don't need much choke but definitely helps, I pump it twice advance the throttle slightly and it fires right up. Only issue I have is when it has been sitting seems like Edlebrock carb the fuel bowl dries out after a week or so, so you have to wait for it to fill back up.

Ok right...that's what I do just more pumps...if I pump and then leave it ahead of idle like you say then it works yes...so basically I'm good

Didn't see this reply - yes that is how it should work

 

[Lou C]

I think they all have a tendency for the fuel to dry up over time. Back when all our cars had carbs, we liked them or hated them partly based on how well they started when cold, if you live in a climate that gets real winter.

 

[Jakem]

It's either cold outside and my brain is frozen or I'm an idiot but I cannot get the electric choke set up again. It's now apart and I'm inside. What's the trick to lining up the coil spring to the choke lever and not have it upside down lol

 

[Scott Danforth]

Orientation of coil on end of bimetal strip is temperature dependant.

Line up pin and coil, loosely clamp, then turn the choke clockwise to line up the marks.

At -10 like you mentioned (assuming C not F). It would be about 130-150 degrees off when you first line up the pins

 

[Jakem]

So upside down is possible

 

[Grub54891]

Show is a pic of the taken apart mess you got going on. Chokes aren’t to awful hard to set up, just a tad of fine tuning sometimes depending on the weather in your area.

 

[Jakem]

Lol ok I will go out and snap a few.

 

[Jakem]

Here it is..

 

[Jakem]

It opened more as well