1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

[beetnick]

I have a brand new 1850 Tyee GS c/w 115 Yamaha that I use for fishing Lake Erie. This is my first Lund and it is a fabulous boat. I've been out with her five times so far and I have noticed water accumulating in the in-floor rod storage compartment. The most recent time was after having been at anchor for a few hours on relatively calm water - the rods on the bottom half of the storage area were swimming. The bilge pump emptied about 5 gallons or so. I will call the dealer tomorrow but thought I would try here first, because maybe I'm just doing something wrong with the live wells or something. Any advice?

 

[Navy Jr.]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

It could be anything, but I'd check the routing of the forward live well drain tube. It should drain out near the keel. No matter what, I'm sure it's covered by Lund's outstanding warranty.

 

[beetnick]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

Well, I finally found some time to get back to the subject issue. I took off the inspection panel in the deck today, took a good look and felt under the rod storage area where the drain pipe from the fore live well is located. Everything seems secure, although there's still some water in the bilge that the pump couldn't remove. To go further would take a lot of hours taking out all the stuff aft of the inspection plate, so I've got to get the boat into the dealership for them to take apart under warranty. So, guys, my new Lund has let me down just before the first long weekend of the summer here in Canada. A subsidiary issue is mould. After five days in a damp rod storage compartment, a few of my rods had mould on their cork handles. I really like this boat because it lives up to its reputation on big water, but I'm disappointed that there should be a problem with it right out of the box.

 

[Navy Jr.]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

So sorry to hear of your problems. We also have a new 2008 Lund, the 1750 Fisherman. I found some wet carpet in the anchor locker up forward, but then remembered that they power washed the rig before delivery. It all dried up when I simply let the heat from a trouble light lowered into the compartment dry it out for a few hours. The boat has been bone dry ever since.

Please let us know what they find out. Let's hope it is something really simple.

 

[beetnick]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

Just got the boat back from the dealership, but I'm not convinced the problem is solved. They filled the bilge with water and found no leaks on inspection of the hull. They also filled the live wells and found no leaks. The only thing they found, they said, was the circular inspection cover in the bottom of the motor well was loose, so they figure backwash was leaking past the o-ring on the cover. I repeated that I was at anchor when the rod storage flooded and they said maybe backwash filled the bilge just below the rod storage as I was motoring out to the fishing hole and then maybe folks walking around the boat while anchored caused water to flow into the motor well past the two drain ports in the transom and then leaked past the o-ring in the cover. Hmmm. I had to pump a heck of a lot of water out of the sump and the drain ports are fitted with one way valves so it all sounds just a little unlikely to me. And, aren't the drain ports in the transom supposed to drain the motor well in the first place?

But I guess stanger things have happened. They said if I take on water when I'm out next to take off the screens covering the intakes of the live wells and plug them up because the only thing it can be then is a plumbing problem, in which case they will have to take the floor apart and maybe take out the fuel tank to get at the pumps and hoses.

For now, I have the boat back with nothing changed except a coffee stain on the travel cover. Maybe I should send Lund a bill for the day and fuel I wasted today driving 100 miles to get to and from the dealership. All this is failing to make me all that happy, but I will certainly change my tune if it turns out to be that loose inspection cover after all. I can't see it, but I guess I will find out in a couple of days. Stay tuned.

 

[beetnick]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

I'm late following up on this.

The boat leaks less, but still leaks. It looks like there were two issues, the inspection cover in the motor well and the live well pump or plumbing. I'll live with it til I put the boat into winter storage with the dealer, who has agreed to fix it then.

 

[Navy Jr.]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

I certainly hope they find the problem for you. If it's any consolation, we had our Lund at a friend's lakeside cabin in northern Minnesota last week. The boat sat in the water for five days tied up to their dock. The weather on all but one day was quite windy, and we had some doozy rain storms during the night, so I covered the boat often. Despite the wind, we took the boat out every day.

When we loaded it back on the trailer this morning we pulled the drain plug expecting to finally see something come out. Nope. Still dry.

The numerous complements we received on the boat only validated our increasing confidence in the boat. Gotta love Lund!

 

[gmsts]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

My brand new Lund boat had a rivot in the hull that leaks and maybe more. I haven't found all the spots that it leaks. It also had 3 holes in the livewell. that was replaced but now one of the holes that delivers the water to the livewell leaks. What's up with Lund?

 

[micjo]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

This may or may not be your problem but as far as getting excess water getting in the bilge area the Lunds are notorious for leaking water around the top inside of the livewells. During assembly they put foam tape around the top lip of the preformed plastic livewell tub, then set the carpeted floor deck on top and screw it down. After a few years the foam tape seal separates and gaps form. when you have the livewells full and the boat is rocking or hitting waves the water inside sloshes up and through the gaps. If you stick your head inside the livewell with a light and look where the top meets the floor you'll probably see the gaps. Pulling up the floor and resealing it is the right way to repair it but is a lot of work. I carefully cleaned the seam and put a quality silicone sealer into and worked it in with my finger. It's worked now for 5 years now with no water in the hull. Have your dealer check these areas. Hope this tip helps........Steve

 

[ldevries]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

I have a brand new 1850 Tyee GS c/w 115 Yamaha that I use for fishing Lake Erie. This is my first Lund and it is a fabulous boat. I've been out with her five times so far and I have noticed water accumulating in the in-floor rod storage compartment. The most recent time was after having been at anchor for a few hours on relatively calm water - the rods on the bottom half of the storage area were swimming. The bilge pump emptied about 5 gallons or so. I will call the dealer tomorrow but thought I would try here first, because maybe I'm just doing something wrong with the live wells or something. Any advice?

Beetnick,

Just wondering how your issue was resolved. I just purchased a new Lund 186 Tyee GL. I am having the same issues with the boat taking on water and the rod storage filling up while anchored in fairly calm water. Not what I expected from a fiberglass boat. I have had it back to the dealer 3 times and so far the only thing they could think to do is install a check valve on the bilge output line - unfortunately without success. Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,

Lance

 

[ziemann]

Re: 1850 Tyee rod storage flooding

If you guys do a search around the internet, you can see that there are quite a few reports of water in Lund boats coming from 3 primary causes:

1. As previously described, in rough water, water sloshes over the top of the live wells between it and the deck above it due to poor sealing.

2. Live well intake lines on occasion have had loose connections or have had minor leaks where the fitting comes through the hull. Check the tightness of all clamps.

3. Water sits in low spot in the live well intake lines and freezes during the winter causing small cracks in the lines. Many of the boats are built during the winter months at the factory in New York Mills, MN- and it is possible for water to get in somewhere and freeze. The only way to see these leaks often is while inspection with the pump turned on. If your dealer does not inspect the lines with the pump on, he will likely miss this cause. Be aware that you should try to winterize your bilge and Live well pump with RV anti-freeze if you think this is a potential problem in the off season. Where I live, I learned this lesson the hard way with a previous Smokercraft that I owned.... Fortunately, my Lund Mr. Pike 17 has been flawless. It gets the he11 pounded out of it....

I hope this helps you guys to track this down. Be aware that loose rivets from the factory are extremely rare (although it is certainly possible).

Good luck!