1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

im gonna try and get a coat of primer on it this weekend and paint next weekend i just made it sound like im doing it all this weekend lol .. I got Rust-oleum aluminum primer and decided to only go with that instead of Zc and primer. im getting really anxious to do the inside of the boat. thats gonna be my favorite part i hate sanding and painting it is so time consuming and i dont feel like im being productive but i am .. I got a whole bunch of pics i will put up on here by tonight. Any other suggestions would be great you guys have helped me out alot thanks again ..

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Is the Rusto primer you got that weird latex stuff? fshngho just had a real bad experience with it. If it was my boat, I'd hit it with ZC on the bare spots (I was able to find Duplicolor's etching primer in a rattle can at Pep Boys pretty reasonably and you only need a light dusting of it), then Rusto clean metal primer, then Rusto top coat.

I REALLY don't think you want to use that Rusto aluminum primer over any existing paint.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ditto what EZ said


I'm just sayin...

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Here are some pics finally ... i have only run into one problem while sanding where the bumber rail used to be there is 2 holes that merge into each other how do i seal them up rivets wont work it will leak ? any suggestions ? you can see the holes in the pic .. My trailer bunks ready to go and the paint i got and some other goodie shots

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

A buddy of mine gave me this 15 hp johnson that is almost brand new his dad used it like 3 times so im thinkin bout using it as a kicker and buy a kicker mount. Im still searching craigslist for a big motor havent had any luck yet... so i should pick up some ZC and shoot that first then the rust-oleum primer ? Whoever owned the boat at some point mounted this 1/2 inch thick aluminum plate on the back that makes it really solid i was thinkin about replacing the wood back there cause its rotted in the corners but the rest of it is solid and this plate makes it really solid so im thinking about leaving it for now.. what do you guys think ?

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

If she were mine, and I was painting her, I would wash and scrub her good with a 50/50 mix of water and white vinegar. Dry her off. Give her a Light Prime of ZC. Let it dry for 24 hours. Light sanding with a Scotch Brite pad, then shoot the Rusto' Primer wait 24 hours, light sanding with scotch brite pad, then shoot the Rusto' paint. Three coats, 24 hours between coats. 4 Weeks for cure. Thin with acetone 15 to 20%

But that's if she were mine.


I'm just sayin...

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

I would NOT use that primer.

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

For bare alum... To do it old school days Is only one option.

Alumiprep
Alodine
Zinc chromate
Prime ( recommended primer for your topcoat .. 2 part epoxy is best ).
Sand and prep
Top coat

There is No EZ way that I know of that will be better than this process ( though I dont know the new ways I admit )

There Is a good possibility that with your prep on the old paint that after you wash ZC or whatever prime..your going to have some Lift off alot of your paint featherings.

Meaning..the solvents from whatever is going to lift the paint right off the edges creating a larger problem with spot priming these edges..

If your going to do a full prime ( recommended ) or a spot prime then paint.. your going to run into trouble with some of the feather edges... there going to lift.

Just me though..

YD

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ez what do you suggest I use ? I'm on a tight budget it dosent have to be show quality its gonna be a fishing boat i just want it to not chip off

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

I think I'm just gonna shoot it with ZC then go straight to paint any other suggestions?

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ez what do you suggest I use ? I'm on a tight budget it dosent have to be show quality its gonna be a fishing boat i just want it to not chip off

This:
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/selfEtchingPrimer/

Then this:
http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=35

Then this:
http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=150

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Man i wish i kept the recipt for that latex crap i bought i just wasted 20 bucks .. So dupilcolor self etching, all metal prime, paint ... and i should be good no chiping ... I also bought 2 cans of ZC those were 35 bucks for 2 cans i cant spend any more money on this crap its crazy ..im just gonna shoot it with zc then latex alum prime then paint whatever happens happens i live in Cali its warm out here so im sure the paint will be fine and dry fast.. any one else use the rust-oleum latex aluminum primer ? did it work for you ? seems like everyone that uses it and dosent like it lives back east or mid west where its freezing cold ?

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ez in your thread i was looking at your pics and it looks like you just painted right over the old paint ? or so it seems from the pics. What did you do to prep the old paint for new paint ?

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ez in your thread i was looking at your pics and it looks like you just painted right over the old paint ? or so it seems from the pics. What did you do to prep the old paint for new paint ?

DO NOT TAKE ANY PAINTING ADVICE FROM MY THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously!! My paint fell off. My advice is what I'd do NOW!!!!!!!!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Man i wish i kept the recipt for that latex crap i bought i just wasted 20 bucks .. So dupilcolor self etching, all metal prime, paint ... and i should be good no chiping ... I also bought 2 cans of ZC those were 35 bucks for 2 cans i cant spend any more money on this crap its crazy ..im just gonna shoot it with zc then latex alum prime then paint whatever happens happens i live in Cali its warm out here so im sure the paint will be fine and dry fast.. any one else use the rust-oleum latex aluminum primer ? did it work for you ? seems like everyone that uses it and dosent like it lives back east or mid west where its freezing cold ?

Home Depot will take the Rusto back I got Duplicolor's etching primer in rattle cans from Pep Boys for $5.99 or something. Do NOT use that latex primer ESPECIALLY over ZC. Fshgho did that and it went horribly wrong. Seriously get rid of that crap.

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Ez i really appreciate the advice man im takin that stuff back tonight i found the recipt in my truck .. hopefully will get some paint on this weekend i found an 84 80 hp Mercury on craigslist for 400 so i might pick that up saturday if i can

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

im gonna take the the ZC back then get self etching primer and Clean metal primer i found all of my recipts the ZC is expensive i can get everything for the price of the ZC

 

[fshngho]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

Dredog don't make me come over there and Gibb Slap you.
Like EZ said, I used ZC and then Rusto Latex primer for aluminum. It all would scratch off if you rubbed it with your eyelashes! Now that was a waste of time and money! Do as EZ suggests.
I know money is tight for everyone but trust me, you DO NOT want to strip and paint that boat twice, exspecially in less than a year.
Good Luck

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

For bare alum... To do it old school days Is only one option.

Alumiprep
Alodine
Zinc chromate
Prime ( recommended primer for your topcoat .. 2 part epoxy is best ).
Sand and prep
Top coat

There is No EZ way that I know of that will be better than this process ( though I dont know the new ways I admit )

There Is a good possibility that with your prep on the old paint that after you wash ZC or whatever prime..your going to have some Lift off alot of your paint featherings.

Meaning..the solvents from whatever is going to lift the paint right off the edges creating a larger problem with spot priming these edges..

If your going to do a full prime ( recommended ) or a spot prime then paint.. your going to run into trouble with some of the feather edges... there going to lift.

Just me though..

YD

Im allways open to new ways though...

Alumiprep,Alodine,Zinc Chromate,prime for your topcoat. meet the windows .

Again I would like to have someone suggest a better/cheaper/faster way with Alum...

Again.. Im Allways open to new ways.. as long as its works .

YD.

 

[dredog12]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Super Sport V-16

EZ Is rust-oleum self etching primer ok they didn't have dupli-color anywhere and i got rust-oleum clean metal primer washed the boat down with 50/50 water vinegar mix gonna let it dry for a whole day then apply self etching and let dry for a day then roll/tip clean metal primer and let dry for a day _ then hit it with gloss black any steps missing here should i scuff up with Scotch brite pad in-between coats?