1992 -115hp

RPJS

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If the motor gets good RPM in reverse have you checked to make sure you are getting full throttle in FWD gear.<br />Your problems could just be that your conrtol cables need adjusting.
 

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Agreed. Make sure all the linkage and the timer base is getting to full wide open. You may still have a timing issue. It will rev easier in reverse because there isnt much bite in a prop going backwards (no strain). <br /><br />Once you do the sync & link check spark. Maybe we're running on 3 cylinders. Or maybe 2. Since youre going to check timing just put the light on each plug wire. We aren't concerned about what the actual timing is but rather if the plugs are getting spark. Also check for the correct firing order. If it idles OK it should be correct. If, at idle, it will struggle and suddenly stop you could have 2 wires crossed. Primary or hi tension.<br /><br />Then check the timing. You can do that on the ramp. Just back down far enough to cover the water pump. Slowly advance the throttle in gear and watch the timing on #1. <br /><br />The biggest thing is that if this has been this way since you got it back with the new powerhead, let the dealer fix it. If you change anything it could affect the warranty. Although I have my doubts about a dealer who would replace a blown powerhead and not clean the carbs - unless he was told not to.
 

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Well I was checking the compression on this beast today.The engine was cold this is what I got.<br />#1 cyc. 134 psi<br />#3 cyc. 136 psi<br />#2 cyc. 127 psi<br />#4 cyc. 125 psi<br /><br />BUT I checked the spark on each cyclinder and #3 coil was dead, no spark.I tried with another spark plug wire same thing.I could not believe #3 was not firing the engine idled pretty smooth.This has got to be my problem ( I hope).<br />The compression should a little higher on a warm engine I think not sure.<br />What you guys think?
 

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Nothing wrong with the compression. Look at the casting numbers to make sure your heads are a matching set.
 

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I swapped the #3 coil that would not fire with the one on #2 cyc. The #2 coil ( now on #3) would not fire and the #3 (now on #2) fires.<br /><br />I think my power pak is bad the wire that goes to #3 cyc is not firing.
 

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Could be the pack or the timer base. Just follow the steps in the manual and it'll tell you which it is.
 

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Originally posted by Dhadley:<br /> Could be the pack or the timer base. Just follow the steps in the manual and it'll tell you which it is.
Thanks for info.I thought the pak would be it.I have not seen anything about a timer base in manual yet.I guess I'll keep digging.Timer base under flywheel? Timer base something that goes bad and can be replaced? I could not find one listed in parts here on I Boats.
 

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Dhadley<br />the manual says I need a peak-reading DVOM like <br />the Stevens CD-77. Will my plain volt/ohm meter work to check the timer base? another thing the starter bendix has thrown alot of grease up under the flywheel.could this ground or short the timer base?
 

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Originally posted by Dhadley:<br /> Could be the pack or the timer base. Just follow the steps in the manual and it'll tell you which it is.
Timer base checked out ok. I ordering a power pack today.I hope this does it.
 

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Well I put the power pack on everything looked good fire to all cyc.Went to lake yesterday to check timing.Timing should be 28 degrees BTDC @ w.o.t.( per plate on engine). At w.o.t. timing was 34 degrees moved timing to 28. Launched boat ,still has no hole shot( may be alittle worse) and with two people it takes for ever to get on plane unless other person moves forward in boat then bow will drop.I even pulled off the ballistic prop that i put on in 1992 and put the O.E.M aluminum prop that came on the boat,no change.<br />Then to add to my frustation the gearcase locked up while I was loading it on trailer.<br />I may give up and look for another motor..
 

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If it truly had 34* of timing it would have burned up in a very short time. Lets look at something first --<br /><br />Has it done this ever since it came back from the powerhead replacement?
 

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The power head was put on in 1996 and it ran fine until about three seasons ago.It started gradual,until it got to the point it would take forever to get on plane.It just don't get enough rpm on take off after you get it up and going it runs pretty good but not like it did.<br />I checked the position of motor while going down the lake the cavitation plate is about 1" above water is this too high?
 

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OK, so it ran good and nothing was changed. So we need to find out why the timing was so far advanced and yet didn't burn a piston.<br /><br />The first thing to look at is the flywheel. Get it off and look at the center hub magnet. Tell us what it looks like.
 

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Originally posted by Dhadley:<br /> OK, so it ran good and nothing was changed. So we need to find out why the timing was so far advanced and yet didn't burn a piston.<br /><br />The first thing to look at is the flywheel. Get it off and look at the center hub magnet. Tell us what it looks like.
I will get it off this weekend. A guy (Walker) suggested checking the key in flywheel so I going to check that .<br />thanks.
 

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Dhadley said:
OK, so it ran good and nothing was changed. So we need to find out why the timing was so far advanced and yet didn't burn a piston.<br /><br />The first thing to look at is the flywheel. Get it off and look at the center hub magnet. Tell us what it looks like.

Dhadley
everything looks new a small bit of surface rust on wheel I wipped off with rag.Key looks good not rolled.
 
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