87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

[GracieBell1]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

wow...that was funny! You don't need the cloth or woven. The mat is what makes the seal, if thats all you are wanting to do. Use the cloth or woven for it to be strong. This goes to your earlier post...I wonder why we need drain holes if the new glass job is water tight and has no voids for water to get in??? I just assumed I will be putting in drains but I have been thinking about this a lot. Hell FW's drains on my liberator were half way up the stringer. I guess I feel that if you have drain holes (other than the two in the bulkheads) you will be allowing water to get in. In my case I will have the stringers and bulks suspended off the hull like FW didso water will have a path just like before. I may still fill under them with foam. I don't know!

 

[MAXXIE]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Great thread! Another "Must Read" or "Required Reading" for new members on iboats forums(along with "Oops" Hull Extension thread). I'm at the same spot with my deck replacement & I'll be copying your work step by step for the rest of the rebuild. Post up as many picture's as you can, it really helps. Again, Great thread, looks very professional.

 

[Joshua Nichols]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Yeah rick.. Love this tread.. Not that I have a rot problem, but awesome work.. Time to post some new pictures.. It's been a while and we are jonesin for new images

 

[infideltarget]

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Yeah rick.. Love this tread.. Not that I have a rot problem, but awesome work.. Time to post some new pictures.. It's been a while and we are jonesin for new images

Could not agree more. if I end up with any rot, THIS will be the thread I reference.

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Thank You all for you kind words!:redface: It is much appreciated

We try to get as many pics up as we can....unfortunately we only get to work on her over the weekends and sometimes only 1 day

You can all be sure that new pic's will be posted on Sunday night!
For me to be put in the same category as oops and the hull extension blows me away!!

 

[RBagdon]

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Thank You all for you kind words! It is much appreciated

We try to get as many pics up as we can....unfortunately we only get to work on her over the weekends and sometimes only 1 day

You can all be sure that new pic's will be posted on Sunday night!
For me to be put in the same category as oops and the hull extension blows me away!!

I could not agree more Rick, being the first time we have done anything like this. If not for the wealth of knowledge found here I'm not sure the results would be the same. Thanks everyone for the kind words!!!

 

[Woodonglass]

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Now Rick, ya know if your Head Swells too big you won't be able to get your goggles on and grindin that glass will not be fun. And....It IS just a BOAT, it AIN'T BRAIN SURGERY!!!!! BUT.......... You ARE doin a GREAT JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bluefishing]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Nice work,

What brand and type of resin did you use? what brand fiberglass?

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Nice work,
Thanks

What brand and type of resin did you use? what brand fiberglass?

us composites 435 Standard Polyester Layup Resin and their csm and 1708 biax

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Now Rick, ya know if your Head Swells too big you won't be able to get your goggles on and grindin that glass will not be fun. And....It IS just a BOAT, it AIN'T BRAIN SURGERY!!!!! BUT.......... You ARE doin a GREAT JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TOO LATE

 

[Joshua Nichols]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Rick.. After reading all the rot horror treads made me nervous.. I start poking around on my barge.. Dang it I can't find any rot.. Seems to be glassed pretty good too.. Shoot I even still have the old carpet in it and you would think it would suffer some by now.. Nope.. I can hop around all on the deck and that's a feat at my weight.. Poked around the transom.. Nope.. no rot.. The fella I bought the rig from at least kept it inside a storage building and he told me when he bought it it looked brand new. I scoped it out pretty hard before I gave him 10 100 dollar bills.. I guess it matters how folks take care of em.. I noticed they left yours outside cause of the leaves on the deck.. You think that is where most of the rot came from?

Can't wait till splash she is a beauty

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

You were fortunate to find one that spent it's down time in a garage.
To answer the question YES mine was abused .... There were traces of an old blue tarp,leaves,pine needles and a lot of bees !
I can only assume that it wasn't tilted bow up and rain water & snow just laid in it for some time.

The story from the PO was it had it's life at his summer home on Lake Wallenpaupack Pa. He sold the house and the boat was to go with the sale of the house.
The new buyers decided they didn't want the boat and he towed it to his home and put it in the big block garage pictured on my first post of this thread.

This was back in 2002....a few years later he bought an old Corvette and the boat was put behind the garage and the Vette took it's place inside....

I guess she just laid back there with a cheap tarp thrown over it and forgotten....
Must be nice to have $$$$ to throw away!

Well we have her now and will be reviving her back to life! You can bet she will never see water inside her hull again. Just water on the outside where it belongs

I'm glad you have a fine boat and no real issues! Keep her dry on the inside and you will have plenty of fun times on the water.

Time to head on over to Rob's house and perform more reconstructive surgery.....Where is that bag of Botox for that face lift????

 

[rickryder]

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Long day but I'll post a few pics tonight......



Here is the sole/deck underside with 1.5oz csm



MORE GRINDING!!!will it ever end????



Here is the fuel tank support. It's a piece of LVL beam and we are wrapping it in 6oz cloth for some water proofing



lay on cloth and staple one end



wrap it tight around block and staple again.

 

[rickryder]

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trim off excess cloth



wrap the ends like a present



The supports are ready to be installed,some csm on the back to glue them to stringers.
You can also see the drains from under the fuel tank locker and cloth to cover the tops of the stringers



stringers drain and fuel tank drain to bilge



Drains are set in 3M 5200 sealer

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto



A view of the drain from the other side going through the stringer



drain in the ski locker



This is the backing for the seat pedestal and one end of the ski locker hatch support
We ran it across 4 stringers and the bulkhead to tie everything together.



Tank supports in and 2 layers of cloth wrapping everything. The top wraps are about 4" down each side of the stringers and bulks.


fuel tank under pressure test. 4.5 lbs and holding It's been holding and we will check it tomorrow....should pass the USCG 24 hour @4lbs time will tell.

So tomorrow will be foam and setting the tank and maybe we will have a deck to stand on!!!

 

[Fingernip]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

This is some great hardcore boat porn. I find myself quickly minimizing the window when my lady walks in the room and all. Shes tired of me looking at boats all the time. Now its naked boats and boat parts.

 

[fat fanny]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

As I have said before your work looks great and the time frame you have done it in shows determination. I look forward to the next installment.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

This is some great hardcore boat porn. I find myself quickly minimizing the window when my lady walks in the room and all. Shes tired of me looking at boats all the time. Now its naked boats and boat parts.

Bwaaaahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[infideltarget]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

Thought you might appreciate this one Rick... http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/boa/2273912729.html

1986 four whinns bow rider - $6500...four whinns 210 horizon bow rider 21' clean, barn kept, low hours. 400 cu. in. mercruiser, bimini top, canvas covers, 4-big jons down riggers, fish finder, ship to shore radio, esay loader trailer, 2 spare tires and rims new, 70 thrust trolling motor, tube for tubing, 6 level winding penn rods and reels, spoons cannon balls, 4 marine batteries and more accessories.

 

[rickryder]

Re: 87 Four Winns 210 Horizon resto

I guess I got a deal for $800