A little show for Iran...

[sailingwest]

Re: A little show for Iran...

dont you think that people in the third world have every right to hate the west ?when we have been ripping them off for years ,lets be honest here ,if there were no oil in the middle east there would be no us fleets down there protecting its passage to the west. white people of which i am one have been historys and the worlds most violent agressors , do you think native americans thought it was a blessing when white folk from all over europe almost wiped them and their culture off the face of the earth??? america and the uk went into iraq against the will of the UN and look at the mess there, do we now do bully boy tactics with iran ,I am sure when the oil runs out uncle sam will be happy enough to supply nuclear derived energy ,i you want to control the planet control the energy be it oil or nuclear.

 

[waterinthefuel]

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Ok sailingwest....

There has always been voilence and fighting on this planet. Trying to pull in history from hundreds, if not thousands of years ago is a weak, liberal tactic to push a screwed up agenda.

Have you ever posted a reply to a thread about gas prices? I sure hope not. Because then that would mean you are just another typical winey liberal.

"If they didn't have oil, we wouldn't be there. We shouldn't be there because we're only there for oil. I don't want to pay 3.50 a gallon for gas."

You can't have your cake and eat it to. Either we are there for oil and we should leave, or you don't want to pay 3.50 for gas and are willing to support the war effort. What ever happened to Kerry, Clinton, algore, Pelosi and co stating that Saddam was a threat to us and had WMD's? Sounds like liberal selective memory.

quote mrbscott "It is us who want to get the soldiers out of harms way" end quote
That statement is just ludicrous. Everyone wants them home and to be safe. Show me where anyone in the right wants it different sir! Using your own words "Statements like that are what make you and your party so ridiculous." Yes it does make you look so ridiculous sir.
And who would you rather be in harms way? It is the JOB of the soldier to be in harms way. They train for it and are equipped for it much better than you are.

^------What he said.

 

[sailingwest]

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well water in fuel I would be delighted to pay $3.50 for a gallon of fuel as I live in the UK (Scotland) where the current price of petrol is ?5.00 or $10 .00. Its a real shame that you believe that your "peace loving "nation can do no wrong but then you probably live in some nice comfy middle class area where the only worry is what to wear. The US has by miles the worst murder rate in the developed world it also has some of the worst poverty too , if you are looking for weapons of mass destruction look in your own back yard ,I am origanally from Dublin Ireland where we were educated about how the british stole our land ,strange that we were never educated about how the Irish amongst others slaughtered native Americans as they stole their land .

 

[12Footer]

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dont you think that people in the third world have every right to hate the west ?

Sure. They just don't inherit any "right" to fly our commercial aircraft into public or military buildings, nor detonate close enough to our warships to kill Americans. And they don't do it out of love. Umm... Yeah, "every right to hate us".

This is because such behaviour is socially unacceptable to Americans.
To do so, just as in 1994 Hawai, is to conduct an act of war.
What is war. salingwest?
It's killing people and breaking their toys. They killed thousands of AMERICANS (and those of other nationalites in their direct vicinity) , and broke their stuff. I just wish that at times like this, that we were indeed as ruthless and uncivilized as those bands of mutant, cowardly scum.
If we were, the death toll on both sides would have been greatly reduced, and the after-shock of such "shock and awe" would make them THINK before their so-called "religion of peace" convinces them that we "infidels" must die.

They don't scare me.

dont you think that people in the third world have every right to hate the west ? when we have been ripping them off for years ,lets be honest here ,if there were no oil in the middle east there would be no us fleets down there protecting its passage to the west.

America is a free country, with a free market system that is second to none.
(Well, I dunno, Japan may have overtaken us economically, but i digress) --
We taught Japan and many other countries how to compete in such free markets, thrive, and even possably SURPASS US.
So? Still, I personally dislike getting a raw deal as much as anyone else would. These people need to do something about it. It's not America's fault if their mullah muthas bilk their own banks and bleed their own soverign ecomomies dry. Oil? Sure, we need oil. We buy it all the time. (at least, those of us who drive and pilot stinkpotters).
The price of which is rising ,which in itself should tell you that supply/demand doctrine dictates that we aint exactly getting a decent return on our alledged "shinanigans".
JEEEZE!!!
If we were HALF as monsterous as you sugest, the free-world portion of the globe would've seen to it that we ceased to exist long,long ago.

white people of which i am one have been historys and the worlds most violent agressors , do you think native americans thought it was a blessing when white folk from all over europe almost wiped them and their culture off the face of the earth??? america and the uk went into iraq against the will of the UN and look at the mess there, do we now do bully boy tactics with iran ,I am sure when the oil runs out uncle sam will be happy enough to supply nuclear derived energy ,i you want to control the planet control the energy be it oil or nuclear.

"History's most violent aggressors"??? Government school indoctrination, huh?
Ward Churchill is not exactly a good source of knowledge on this subject. He is a burnt-out, brain-dead hippy who was in his prime durring the vietnam war... Glory daze and all that rot.

You sould have asked a history teacher ( a real one). Axe him about the zulu. Ask him about Pharoahs (any pharoah). The Kelts, Gengis Kahn, Native Americans. Aztecs. Spartans. Romans. Vikings.
Race aint got doodly to do with HUMAN NATURE.

"History's most violent aggressors"??? That is patenly absurd. Africa. Rome. Russia. China. Korea. Japan. Germany. Of course, the mideast. Heck, they've been beheading each other since written record.

They had better pray to ala I don't come down with terminal cancer ,given a few months to live... I'd be buying a one-way ticket to "mutantville" to strap an IED around my waist, and take-out as many of the cockroaches as possible.
Fire with fire... Howz dat for "most violent aggressor"?


War for oil my eye.
BTW,all debate aside, Welcome to Iboats, SW.

 

[Skinnywater]

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I never said the Democrats weren't capable of such things. I was referring to the statement "Why do the dems care more about that man than our own soldiers". Do you not agree with me when I say that is a false statement? Or do you truly believe it?................You don't hear that kind of oblivious, hateful, void of fact, ignorant, belittling statement from the left nearly as much as from the right..............Your last sentence is the exact thing I am talking about......show me proof that my party has been a "pox" for years already instead of just spouting off like its fact. I'm a lot more quiet when I am actually proven wrong instead of just being villified and belittled, which seems to be the main debating tools of the right.

Well you argue like the Democrats are above it all. And you argue like the Republicans are responsible for all that is wrong.

We agree that there is much that is said from many here is emotion and insult.
However, I hear much more from the left. In fact most leaders in your party have made it an artform. And your party has the MSM as a kicker. Far greater than Rush, et al.

As far as the "pox".
Your party is a party of S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-T-S.
As a good conservative I wish you well in your choice.
However, since you can visit the world over to live in a socialist country and find several, I sir am doing my level best to live in a country that was based on other ideals. My options for a country based on my values, Conservative American, is extremly limited.
So it becomes a little more troubling, urgent and personal, your partys meddleing.......... savvy?

 

[12Footer]

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How did TG convince Rosie to join USAF?
Kickarse, rosie!!
On second thought.... It would be far more humane just to "nuke em".

 

[Plainsman]

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lol @ 12

 

[treedancer]

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Man how would you like to get on a plane ,and see that waddling down the isle saying coffee tea are me.

 

[sailingwest]

Re: A little show for Iran...

Sure. They just don't inherit any "right" to fly our commercial aircraft into public or military buildings, nor detonate close enough to our warships to kill Americans. And they don't do it out of love. Umm... Yeah, "every right to hate us".

This is because such behaviour is socially unacceptable to Americans.
To do so, just as in 1994 Hawai, is to conduct an act of war.
What is war. salingwest?
It's killing people and breaking their toys. They killed thousands of AMERICANS (and those of other nationalites in their direct vicinity) , and broke their stuff. I just wish that at times like this, that we were indeed as ruthless and uncivilized as those bands of mutant, cowardly scum.
If we were, the death toll on both sides would have been greatly reduced, and the after-shock of such "shock and awe" would make them THINK before their so-called "religion of peace" convinces them that we "infidels" must die.

They don't scare me.



America is a free country, with a free market system that is second to none.
(Well, I dunno, Japan may have overtaken us economically, but i digress) --
We taught Japan and many other countries how to compete in such free markets, thrive, and even possably SURPASS US.
So? Still, I personally dislike getting a raw deal as much as anyone else would. These people need to do something about it. It's not America's fault if their mullah muthas bilk their own banks and bleed their own soverign ecomomies dry. Oil? Sure, we need oil. We buy it all the time. (at least, those of us who drive and pilot stinkpotters).
The price of which is rising ,which in itself should tell you that supply/demand doctrine dictates that we aint exactly getting a decent return on our alledged "shinanigans".
JEEEZE!!!
If we were HALF as monsterous as you sugest, the free-world portion of the globe would've seen to it that we ceased to exist long,long ago.



"History's most violent aggressors"??? Government school indoctrination, huh?
Ward Churchill is not exactly a good source of knowledge on this subject. He is a burnt-out, brain-dead hippy who was in his prime durring the vietnam war... Glory daze and all that rot.

You sould have asked a history teacher ( a real one). Axe him about the zulu. Ask him about Pharoahs (any pharoah). The Kelts, Gengis Kahn, Native Americans. Aztecs. Spartans. Romans. Vikings.
Race aint got doodly to do with HUMAN NATURE.

"History's most violent aggressors"??? That is patenly absurd. Africa. Rome. Russia. China. Korea. Japan. Germany. Of course, the mideast. Heck, they've been beheading each other since written record.

They had better pray to ala I don't come down with terminal cancer ,given a few months to live... I'd be buying a one-way ticket to "mutantville" to strap an IED around my waist, and take-out as many of the cockroaches as possible.
Fire with fire... Howz dat for "most violent aggressor"?


War for oil my eye.
BTW,all debate aside, Welcome to Iboats, SW.

i would hardly rate your narrowed minded rant as debate ,I assume you live in a bunker in the hills 30 miles from the nearest highway waiting for the enemy ,probably a member of the NRA or what was it formally known as ? with an IQ equel to george bush .dont be such a moran ,there are good kind people all over the world that are caught up in conflict not of treir choice even in bagdad mothers love their children ,what if by accident of birth you were born there you would be the same narrow minded cockroach you described

 

[12Footer]

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i would hardly rate your narrowed minded rant as debate ,I assume you live in a bunker in the hills 30 miles from the nearest highway waiting for the enemy ,probably a member of the NRA or what was it formally known as ? with an IQ equel to george bush .dont be such a moran ,there are good kind people all over the world that are caught up in conflict not of treir choice even in bagdad mothers love their children ,what if by accident of birth you were born there you would be the same narrow minded cockroach you described

I STRONGLY sugest you read the first thread in Dockside Chat entitled, "Docside Chat Guidlines".
Failure to do so will bring the "wrath of Mod" down upon you.
You are new here,and as hate-filled as this reply is, you can probably claim ignorance this time. But as you read, post and get to know the members here, you'll find we ALL try to avoid treating each other with such obvious "hatered".
"History's most violent aggressors" INDEED!

 

[Tail_Gunner]

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How did TG convince Rosie to join USAF?
Kickarse, rosie!!
On second thought.... It would be far more humane just to "nuke em".

It took NautiJohn 2 day's to configure some tab's to get the plane to plane....errr launch.

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: A little show for Iran...

The Republican party isn't the only one that made chummy with terrible dictators in the region.

The Republican party isn't the only one that supplied WMD's to the region.

The Republican party isn't the only one that plays worlds police.

The Republican party isn't the only one that shirks its Constitutional responsibility by passing the buck to the executive branch when going to war, without declaration.

However, it's surely more pathetic that the democratic party, and it seems you, fail to remember thier own language pertaining to WMD's in Iraq. How convenient to continue to have selective amnesia when long before GWB, the dems spoke of the need to go after Saddam.
I say it's more pathetic because all the while it is the democrats that obviously want a socialistic America.
The Democrats are perfectly capable of putting solgiers in harms way, unborn children in harms way, and the Constitution in harms way.

I agree with you mrscott, the Republicans are very capable of terrible things and are close to being a pox.
But substance isn't what you're truely looking for if you fail to own up to the pox your own party has already been for years.

Your far off the beat'n path path here my freind, what ever bad can be said about the repub party and Bush his instinct's were good on this war thing. Staring down a true evil is a ugly thing if you know all of the ramifaication's of what you are strapping on, and only now is the world beginning to catch a glimpse of the true horror and depth of this new Islamic subculture of terror and just how far it has gone....

Just a opinion your milage may vary..

 

[sailingwest]

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I STRONGLY sugest you read the first thread in Dockside Chat entitled, "Docside Chat Guidlines".
Failure to do so will bring the "wrath of Mod" down upon you.
You are new here,and as hate-filled as this reply is, you can probably claim ignorance this time. But as you read, post and get to know the members here, you'll find we ALL try to avoid treating each other with such obvious "hatered".
"History's most violent aggressors" INDEED!

what ever happened freedom of speech ? I have just re read all of my comments in this thread and i dont see that there is any "obvious hatred "directed at you ,in fact the comment you made about strapping bombs round your waist and taking out as many of the cockroaches as you could is what i would suggest is hate filled ,you would prabably have to take out 10,000 people who just want to get on with bringing up their kids in peace to get lucky and get one insurgent .I stand by my comments and suggest you read over your own . I may be a new member put i have been using this forum for some time now and have no problem with the vast majority of members however just like any society there will always be narrowed cockroaches with a voice.....Jim B

 

[12Footer]

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PM commin your way, Jim.. We are derailing this thread.

It took me 4 years to hate ilsamic scum like I do, Jim. I "hate" them to the extent that it absorbs their faith... This is because none of those who had their faith so expertly-hijacked by their lunatic fringe, have had the onions to rail-against them, and take their mosques back. Durring this war on islamic terror, these same mosques have been protected by the US coalition, yet they are and have been barracks and ammo depots for the enemy. I hate that too. I really do. Nothing any American can do about that, i guess. But I pledge to take as many of them out as possible, as I have stated before, if given the "oportunity" .

 

[Skinnywater]

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Your far off the beat'n path path here my freind, what ever bad can be said about the repub party and Bush his instinct's were good on this war thing. Staring down a true evil is a ugly thing if you know all of the ramifaication's of what you are strapping on, and only now is the world beginning to catch a glimpse of the true horror and depth of this new Islamic subculture of terror and just how far it has gone....

Just a opinion your milage may vary..

Obviously the path isn't as beaten as you would like me to think.

Without question going to war after 9/11 was the correct thing to do.
But that is only one aspect.

An additional aspect is that for decades before 9/11 we PROACTIVELY had our noses where it didn't belong. We propped the Shah and we armed Saddam and in doing so we gave many genuine reason to want to kill us.

Another aspect is a war incompetently planned and executed gives us exactly what we have now 5 years in.
The point that we are fighting them there rather than here is weak, when this could have been over with in two years max.
And Iran would have been too "scared" to even manufacture pellet guns.

 

[CJY]

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Because this young person read a book, the title of which I can't remember, an autobiography about a woman living under the Ayatollah Kiamini (sp?) has her clitoris cut off as a part of the Iranian tradition of female circumcision, had her friends beaten for sneaking off with boys as a teenager, etc. She couldn't show her face or body in any way. Women are nothing more than possessions in that country.

The book was published by an Iranian woman. This may have been it....http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=65-9780812975284-2

Even people in Louisiana can read.

On top of that, read this link....by all means, if life was so wonderful, why was this article even printed?

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/july/students_situation_10704.shtml

 

[CJY]

Re: A little show for Iran...

Because this young person read a book, the title of which I can't remember, an autobiography about a woman living under the Ayatollah Kiamini (sp?) has her clitoris cut off as a part of the Iranian tradition of female circumcision, had her friends beaten for sneaking off with boys as a teenager, etc. She couldn't show her face or body in any way. Women are nothing more than possessions in that country.

The book was published by an Iranian woman. This may have been it....http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=65-9780812975284-2

Even people in Louisiana can read.

On top of that, read this link....by all means, if life was so wonderful, why was this article even printed?

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2004/july/students_situation_10704.shtml

I STRONGLY sugest you read the first thread in Dockside Chat entitled, "Docside Chat Guidlines".
Failure to do so will bring the "wrath of Mod" down upon you.
You are new here,and as hate-filled as this reply is, you can probably claim ignorance this time. But as you read, post and get to know the members here, you'll find we ALL try to avoid treating each other with such obvious "hatered".
"History's most violent aggressors" INDEED!

Hate filled, boy are you a fine choice to make those judgements.

 

[12Footer]

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Because this young person read a book, the title of which I can't remember, an autobiography about a woman living under the Ayatollah Kiamini (sp?) has her clitoris cut off as a part of the Iranian tradition of female circumcision, had her friends beaten for sneaking off with boys as a teenager, etc. She couldn't show her face or body in any way. Women are nothing more than possessions in that country.

"possessions"?? I wouldn't even think of treating PELOSI'S "possessions" like that.
They do disgust me. I do hate them.

Hate filled, boy are you a fine choice to make those judgements.

Yes, CJY,
Yes I am and thank you for noticing.
I just can't SCRIPT such excellent fodder. Keep em commin, man

 

[12Footer]

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edit hickup

 

[BoatBuoy]

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An additional aspect is that for decades before 9/11 we PROACTIVELY had our noses where it didn't belong.

Now don't bring aspeck into this. He had absolutely nothing to do with it.