Alberto Gonzales: iboats No Confidence Poll

[woodrat]

Re: Alberto Gonzales: iboats No Confidence Poll

OMR:

if you are not even a republican, then I am really baffled at why you would take it upon yourself to decide who is and isn't a "real" repub, based on their comments posted on an internet forum. Are you reading their minds? I have encountered this paranoid thing here on iboats before, when some folks decide that someone is really a brie-eating, white-wine-drinking liberal, but they have showed up on a boating forum trying to pass themselves off as something else, to what end I'm not sure. People start gathering around and chiming in about how this person sure seems suspicious. When I first came on here and didn't love GW, some started saying that I was really PW2 using a different username and pretending to be someone else. As if there couldn't possibly be two people on the iBoats forum who didn't like this administration! They even backtracked my IP address as "proof" even though PW2 and I are in completely different parts of the country and it is highly unlikely that we are using the same IP. Turns out they were totally and stupidly wrong. So you'll just have to forgive me ( or not ), this "you are a fraud" BS rubs me the wrong way, bigtime.

I never accused you of slander, I accused you of being rude and disrespectful, which I believe you were, and I posted the verbatim section of the forum rules, which I think are rather inaccurately headed "slander".

As far as reading your mind or your words, well, many of your words don't make a darn bit of sense to me the way they are strung together in some kind of hippie-like stream-of-consciousness sort of way. And of course, the ones I can make some sense of, well, I've been assuming that they are coming from your mind, and are therefore representative of what's going on in there. Sorry, it wouldn't be the first wrong assumption I've ever made.

I also have never been to the move on website, though I've heard of it, mostly here, from people's rantings about their hated enemies, the liberals. I've never heard of this MSM you keep going on about though, except as a dietary supplement designed to help aching joints. I doubt that is what you're talking about, although I wouldn't want to assume that and be accused of trying to read your mind.

Peer pressure? Huh? There's plenty of good reasons not to like GW Bush, I don't need "peers" to tell me what's wrong with that picture.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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OMR:

if you are not even a republican, then I am really baffled at why you would take it upon yourself to decide who is and isn't a "real" repub, based on their comments posted on an internet forum.

Rat: I read what people state here and use the ol' brain cell to ponder n' react accordingly, sorry that causes ya such a problem with the undies. Hope ya can get over the discomfort.

Are you reading their minds?

Nope: Rat; just their words that's all.

I have encountered this paranoid thing here on iboats before, when some folks decide that someone is really a brie-eating, white-wine-drinking liberal, but they have showed up on a boating forum trying to pass themselves off as something else, to what end I'm not sure.

Hmmmmmmm, Rat; ya a Shrink 'r somethin'?

People start gathering around and chiming in about how this person sure seems suspicious.

Dunno what yer spewin' here: Rat!

When I first came on here and didn't love GW, some started saying that I was really PW2 using a different username and pretending to be someone else.

Not me Rat, but I'm real real sorry ya had to live through such a bad 'sperience!!

As if there couldn't possibly be two people on the iBoats forum who didn't like this administration! They even backtracked my IP address as "proof" even though PW2 and I are in completely different parts of the country and it is highly unlikely that we are using the same IP. Turns out they were totally and stupidly wrong. So you'll just have to forgive me ( or not ), this "you are a fraud" BS rubs me the wrong way, bigtime.

I can tell those undies are real tight n' uncomfortable. Try to get ta Wally World n' get a new set soon, it is great to have comfy undies.

I never accused you of slander, I accused you of being rude and disrespectful, which I believe you were, and I posted the verbatim section of the forum rules, which I think are rather inaccurately headed "slander".

Hmmmmm, I'll do some readin' of yer EXACT statement if ya don't edit it before I get there. If I'm wrong: I'll retract what I said.

As far as reading your mind or your words, well, many of your words don't make a darn bit of sense to me the way they are strung together in some kind of hippie-like stream-of-consciousness sort of way.

Guess ya really don't like ol' Murky, so sorry fer breathin' Rat!

And of course, the ones I can make some sense of, well, I've been assuming that they are coming from your mind, and are therefore representative of what's going on in there. Sorry, it wouldn't be the first wrong assumption I've ever made.

Ya don't like me, I can live with that: no need to say yer sorry, ('course I just appologized to ya fer usin' oxygen).

I also have never been to the move on website, though I've heard of it, mostly here, from people's rantings about their hated enemies, the liberals. I've never heard of this MSM you keep going on about though, except as a dietary supplement designed to help aching joints. I doubt that is what you're talking about, although I wouldn't want to assume that and be accused of trying to read your mind.


MSM = Main Stream Media, sorry thought that was an excepted acronym.

Peer pressure? Huh? There's plenty of good reasons not to like GW Bush, I don't need "peers" to tell me what's wrong with that picture.

Rat: this is a free Country your free to like or dislike any Pol ya want, n' free ta spout about it to yer hearts corntent. If ya say unsuportable things, (as ya have in the past but I've chosen to let them lay), I or someone may choose to challange yer words from time to time. Sorry ya don't like me or me words, try ta get some fresh undies you'll feel better. Respectfully JR

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Just for reference, here's a little exceprt from the rules (emphasis added):

"Rules and Violations

SLANDERING - No slandering another iboater (calling names, personal attacks). It is okay to respectfully disagree with a person, but it is not okay to personally attack. Any person placing offensive, obscene, abusive or derogatory posts on the board or sending them to board members in PM form will be automatically banned."

OK Rat, ya got me. Ya pulled a Bro Haut/Slick Willy, (not WbW) trick of emphasizin' a word without specifically acusin' ol' Murky of slander. Very good, me Bro taught me that trick a bit ago. I take it all back ya didn't accuse me DIRECTLY of slander. ME = BAD (very bad), I think I'll go cry! JR

 

[jbjennings]

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OMR, I haven't gotten the knack of breaking other people's quotes down into individual sentences. How do you do that? I don't understand some of your acronyms, either, but I haven't been at this stuff very long. I noticed that you said once that you like "spanking the libs". I have no problem with a good debate, but has your whole life degenerated to breaking apart other's statements that you disagree with just to anger them? I think you've been at this for so long that you don't even realize that a good argument is loads of fun, but what you do is just plain mean sometimes. What I guess I'm trying to say is, I like to hear good arguments, even if they're directed at me. They make me think harder about my own points of view and possibly even change my thinking. In my opinion, the way you go about stuff ruins the fun for everyone but you... I do enjoy seeing your posts-- even if I do get annoyed reading them. I guess that's what you're after though, right? How about a good strong argument that isn't so darned provoking---just thought provoking.
jbj

 

[Plainsman]

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OMR, I haven't gotten the knack of breaking other people's quotes down into individual sentences. How do you do that?

Just use the Quote button and type inside of the other persons post.

I don't understand some of your acronyms, either, but I haven't been at this stuff very long. I noticed that you said once that you like "spanking the libs". I have no problem with a good debate, but has your whole life degenerated to breaking apart other's statements that you disagree with just to anger them? I think you've been at this for so long that you don't even realize that a good argument is loads of fun, but what you do is just plain mean sometimes. What I guess I'm trying to say is, I like to hear good arguments, even if they're directed at me. They make me think harder about my own points of view and possibly even change my thinking. In my opinion, the way you go about stuff ruins the fun for everyone but you... I do enjoy seeing your posts-- even if I do get annoyed reading them. I guess that's what you're after though, right? How about a good strong argument that isn't so darned provoking---just thought provoking.

How about this one: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=213074
jbj

Hope that helps

 

[OldMercsRule]

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OMR, I haven't gotten the knack of breaking other people's quotes down into individual sentences. How do you do that?

I'm no cornputer ace: jbj, I just hit the quote button n' tear apart the rant a piece at a time. Some posters (like you seem to be) say some very good things but then turn around n' say something in direct cornflict with what they just stated. A sentence by sentence rebuttal is the best way to deal with those type of rants, IMHO.

I don't understand some of your acronyms, either, but I haven't been at this stuff very long.

Sorry about the slang n' Mr. Tree, (Treedancer), named it: 'cornpone'. I am a very poor speller, (maybe the limitations of forcing one brain cell to do all me critical thinkin'), so I use abreviations n' slang to mask some of me many weaknesses. Prolly doesn't work very good, as I get spanked fer spellin' amoung other things here on DC.

I noticed that you said once that you like "spanking the libs".

It's jus' slang jbj, tryin' to be sportin' n' all.

I have no problem with a good debate, but has your whole life degenerated to breaking apart other's statements that you disagree with just to anger them? I think you've been at this for so long that you don't even realize that a good argument is loads of fun, but what you do is just plain mean sometimes.

Come on now jbj. I know the "fraud" label was very hard, (way too hard) and I tried to take me lashes fer doin' that, (I really am sorry about that slip). I'm glad you were tough enough to get back in me face after that. Please read me words not me mind. I am blunt but I really try not to be mean. I directly challange the plain meaning of other's (Right and Left mainly Left) words but I try not to hammer them personally. I failed in that application in yer particular case and I'm truly sorry I did that. I actually have come to appreciate yer candid rants. I will take people to task to make points or examples BOTH for the poster I'm grillin' n' the others who lurk or play here on DC. I really do not mean to be "mean" or personal, athough I can see why you legitimately feel that way. Please accept the appology I really do mean it.

What I guess I'm trying to say is, I like to hear good arguments, even if they're directed at me.

Me to, although I prefer polite debates to arguments!

They make me think harder about my own points of view and possibly even change my thinking.

VERY TRUE jbj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my opinion, the way you go about stuff ruins the fun for everyone but you... I do enjoy seeing your posts-- even if I do get annoyed reading them.

Again: the hurt feelings are not what I intend at all. Critical thinkin' is my objective, where RubberFrog is on a mission of hard ball humor, (I have almost died from laughin' at Rubber more then once). Wait till' he brings out his cat if we should be so lucky.

I guess that's what you're after though, right?

NO jbj!!! Please read my words not me brain cell, (feeble though me brain cell is from time to time it is impossible to read), no matter how good you think you can read even the simplist mind!!!!!!!

How about a good strong argument that isn't so darned provoking---just thought provoking.

I will try, but my 'sperience with Libs (here n' in Seattle), is that their arguments are based on irrational feelings, you are hangin' in here likely because you really are tryin' to be rational. Most Libs never try to actually think or they would not remain Libs very long. Thanks for the interchange. Don't go away: PLEASE.
jbj

Respectfully, JR

 

[jbjennings]

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OMR, thanks for the quoting info. apology accepted, by the way. I look forward to your future rants as well.
thanks for the message,
jbj

 

[woodrat]

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OK Rat, ya got me. Ya pulled a Bro Haut/Slick Willy, (not WbW) trick of emphasizin' a word without specifically acusin' ol' Murky of slander. Very good, me Bro taught me that trick a bit ago. I take it all back ya didn't accuse me DIRECTLY of slander. ME = BAD (very bad), I think I'll go cry! JR

Ummm.... that particular post didn't actually name anyone, but I guess if the shoe fits, ya gotta try it on, huh?

 

[jbjennings]

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Wow, a "Republican" who voted fer the Vet has sooooooooo much power ya can make Israel do what ya want? Purdy kool crystal ball ya have I say!
by OMR

Here's my incredibly slow response to a quote that I think is very relevant to some of the discussion about Iraq:
In 1981 or so the Israeli's bombed a french-built nuclear facility in IRAQ and ended the threat quickly,cheaply, and with no loss of life from their own soldiers. They even carried out their strike on the facility on a day when the French workers were off so they wouldn't be injured. See this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm

I hope it works, as I'm no 'puter expert.

I,as I hope you are, am pleased with this kind of response to a WMD threat. This is why I believe they would be eager to fix this type of problem in Iraq if they felt there was one. Notice, I said in my previous response, "allow them", not force them. I think we could take a few lessons from Israel on stopping wacko dictators from building nuclear weapons. I'm surprised you didn't remember this one, as you are obviously older, have a better memory, and are much more knowledgeable about current politics than I am.
jbj

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Wow, a "Republican" who voted fer the Vet has sooooooooo much power ya can make Israel do what ya want? Purdy kool crystal ball ya have I say!
by OMR

Here's my incredibly slow response to a quote that I think is very relevant to some of the discussion about Iraq:
In 1981 or so the Israeli's bombed a french-built nuclear facility in IRAQ and ended the threat quickly,cheaply, and with no loss of life from their own soldiers. They even carried out their strike on the facility on a day when the French workers were off so they wouldn't be injured. See this link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm

I hope it works, as I'm no 'puter expert.

I,as I hope you are, am pleased with this kind of response to a WMD threat. This is why I believe they would be eager to fix this type of problem in Iraq if they felt there was one. Notice, I said in my previous response, "allow them", not force them. I think we could take a few lessons from Israel on stopping wacko dictators from building nuclear weapons. I'm surprised you didn't remember this one, as you are obviously older, have a better memory, and are much more knowledgeable about current politics than I am.
jbj

jbj. I do not view the world as just another "video game" that many Americans, (skilled in their knowledge about all aspects of homosexuality n' victimhood they learned in the public school monopoly forced down their throats by Liberal Dems), seem to view. I have a very good memory of that time, and the total outrage European and North American Liberals stated against Israel at that time, (BTW the French built the place fer Sadam). I also remember the world wide Liberal outrage at Ronald Reagan's "peace keeper" missiles n' "star war" programs. I also remember how Reagan's intelligence was "denigrated" every day by the Dems n' MSM, (that's: main stream media: Rat), just as this President is treated.

Liberals and Democrats and their mouth pieces the MSM, (that's: main stream media) are very predictable in that they will openly side with any enemy of America, (especially during Republican presidencies, but they do it during Dem presidencies as well).

Critical thinkin' exercise fer ya: young whipper snapper trusted to teach our youngins' how ta think critical thoughts: Do you think the ENTIRE WORLD (especially the enemies of civilization), did not take note of that attack? Do you really think we just fight wars the same way over and over again? Think about that just a nano second maybe something will click. Respectfully JR

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Ummm.... that particular post didn't actually name anyone, but I guess if the shoe fits, ya gotta try it on, huh?

Hey Einstein 'r I mean Rat, think yer real smart eh? Like ta rub it in when ya actually pull one off too eh?

Well, yer soooooooooooooooooooooooooo smart ya didn't want to go to war in Iraq in 2002 eh? I didn't wanna go to war either, (ever: BTW; that means: by the way), but sometimes ya reach a point where war actually protects ya from others who want yer freedom. Simple corncept maybe ya should ponder it a bit. Ya know there were people in France in 1939 that didn't want war with Hitler either: Rat, (some of those even helped Hitler ship the Jews to the "final solution"), don't ya know?????

Since you were soooooooo smart pre Iraq war 2002, (gee they should make a statue in Portland fer ya or something), just what would you have done to deal with the minor lil' matter on 9/11? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Show us yer geopolitical stuff. You aren't really Alexander Haig or Henry Kissinger are ya: Rat? Hmmmmmm? JR

 

[woodrat]

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Hey Einstein 'r I mean Rat, think yer real smart eh? Like ta rub it in when ya actually pull one off too eh?

Well, yer soooooooooooooooooooooooooo smart ya didn't want to go to war in Iraq in 2002 eh? I didn't wanna go to war either, (ever: BTW; that means: by the way), but sometimes ya reach a point where war actually protects ya from others who want yer freedom. Simple corncept maybe ya should ponder it a bit. Ya know there were people in France in 1939 that didn't want war with Hitler either: Rat, (some of those even helped Hitler ship the Jews to the "final solution"), don't ya know?????

Since you were soooooooo smart pre Iraq war 2002, (jee they should make a statue in Portland fer ya or something), just what would you have done to deal with the minor lil' matter on 9/11? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Show us yer geopolitical stuff. You aren't really Alexander Haig or Henry Kissinger are ya: Rat? Hmmmmmm? JR

Gee OMR, you sure enjoy rubbing it in with just about every post, I would think you would expect the same from your... er... "opponents".

And as near as I could recall, nobody ever came up with ANYTHING that made it seem even remotely possible that Iraq and Saddam were behind 9/11. W and his cronies and their lackeys on right wing talk radio yakked about it constantly, but never had anything that smelled like proof.

And the guy who did allegedly do the 9/11 deed still hasn't been found yet, and if you listen to W and his gang, they're not really even looking for him anymore. W himself at one point said that catching OBL wasn't really important anymore.

and THAT is apparently what this administration is doing about 9/11.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Gee OMR, you sure enjoy rubbing it in with just about every post, I would think you would expect the same from your... er... "opponents".

Rub away Rat.

And as near as I could recall, nobody ever came up with ANYTHING that made it seem even remotely possible that Iraq and Saddam were behind 9/11. W and his cronies and their lackeys on right wing talk radio yakked about it constantly, but never had anything that smelled like proof.

OH I see!!!! So if we can't prove 'beyond a reasonable doubt' that a specific person with a specific return address committed an act of terror we just have to take all the hits that come our way then eh? Real smart there: Einstein, why don't you run fer President! Just ignore the 1500 years of history of the 'Religion o' Peace', the terms of surrender from the first Gulf war Sadam lost, the attack on the WTC in 1993, the $25,000.00 checks to suicide bombers' families. Brilliant!!

And the guy who did allegedly do the 9/11 deed still hasn't been found yet, and if you listen to W and his gang, they're not really even looking for him anymore.

Why should they Einstein? OBL's head on a stick 9/12/2001 would not change anything in this war except in yer mind. Yer wrong about lookin' fer him, they are still lookin' but they aren't setting themselves up to fail as you apparently want. Great propaganda to help our enemies Einstein: set up an impossible, (or very difficult measure to indicate success fer the MOVE ON DOT dim wits, Libs n' Dems n' the Islamo Facists). Real smart I say.

W himself at one point said that catching OBL wasn't really important anymore.

It isn't: Einstein, except to the enemy's propaganda machine you seen so corncerned about.

and THAT is apparently what this administration is doing about 9/11.

Real informed eh: Einstein???
Now you ridiculed what we have done as a Country since 9/11, what would Einstein himself have done eh SPORT? CAT GOT YER TONGUE? It is easy to see why people like you who mindlessly repeat move on . org talking points would get their undies in a bunch n' run away when they have to defend the dip stick carp that dribbles off their keyboards. Get a brain, it may help with the feelings of insecurity.
JR

 

[Plainsman]

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And the guy who did allegedly do the 9/11 deed still hasn't been found yet, and if you listen to W and his gang, they're not really even looking for him anymore. W himself at one point said that catching OBL wasn't really important anymore.

and THAT is apparently what this administration is doing about 9/11.

And lil nancy said:

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said that if bin Laden is caught tomorrow, “it is five years too late.” She added, “He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But in fact, the damage that he has done is done. And even to capture him now, I don’t think makes us any safer.”

So in your mind rat, lil nancy and President Bush are thinking the same way about OBL, correct? Where is your outrage to her statement?

And:

9-11 Commission Said Capturing Bin Laden Would Not End the War on Terror. “The problem is that al Qaeda represents an ideological movement, not a finite group of people. It initiates and inspires, even if it no longer directs. In this way it has transformed itself into a decentralized force. Bin Ladin may be limited in his ability to organize major attacks from his hideouts. Yet killing or capturing him, while extremely important, would not end terror.” [9-11 Commission Report Executive Summary]

 

[treedancer]

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Quote Plainsman



So in your mind rat, lil nancy and President Bush are thinking the same way about OBL, correct? Where is your outrage to her statement? ?<it is five years too late.? She added, ?He has done more damage the longer he has been out there.>

Your link led me to this<The story you are looking for cannot be found.>

Where do you get the idea that she is stating that they are saying the same thing? If what she just stated on you own post that it is ?five years to late?. It looks to me that she just said the President bungled the job five years ago.

 

[Plainsman]

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Quote Plainsman



So in your mind rat, lil nancy and President Bush are thinking the same way about OBL, correct? Where is your outrage to her statement? ?<it is five years too late.? She added, ?He has done more damage the longer he has been out there.>

Your link led me to this<The story you are looking for cannot be found.>

Where do you get the idea that she is stating that they are saying the same thing? If what she just stated on you own post that it is ?five years to late?. It looks to me that she just said the President bungled the job five years ago.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/pelosi-attacked/

I think we know who bungled stopping OBL in the 90's tree, now don't we?

 

[woodrat]

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Real informed eh: Einstein???
Now you ridiculed what we have done as a Country since 9/11, what would Einstein himself have done eh SPORT? CAT GOT YER TONGUE? It is easy to see why people like you who mindlessly repeat move on . org talking points would get their undies in a bunch n' run away when they have to defend the dip stick carp that dribbles off their keyboards. Get a brain, it may help with the feelings of insecurity.
JR

Now, my friend, you are just getting rude, mean and not worth talking to anymore. Which is usually where these kinds of conversations go here at DC. I have a brain, and I have had one for years, and it is now reminding me that discussing anything of import with "people like you" is a big fat waste of time and bandwidth. My personal "security" has nothing at all to do with what people on iboats think of my posts here, which is a good thing!

You have continually scolded me and others for reading more than just your words, yet that seems to be what you are doing in almost every post. Why don't you try following your own advice, and stop trying to tell me who I am and what and how I think?

I'm done with this silly "conversation". You can call yourself the victor if you need to, I don't care.

 

[woodrat]

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And lil nancy said:

"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said that if bin Laden is caught tomorrow, ?it is five years too late.?

So in your mind rat, lil nancy and President Bush are thinking the same way about OBL, correct? Where is your outrage to her statement?

So since when have I been a fan of Nancy Pelosi? Why throw this one in my face? It is meaningless.

And, once again, you have failed to read my mind.

 

[treedancer]

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Quote Plainsman



I think we know who bungled stopping OBL in the 90's tree, now don't we?

<< In August 1998, when [Clinton] ordered missile strikes in an effort to kill Osama bin Laden, there was widespread speculation ? from such people as Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) ? that he was acting precipitously to draw attention away from the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, then at full boil. Some said he was mistaken for personalizing the terrorism struggle so much around bin Laden. And when he ordered the closing of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House after domestic terrorism in Oklahoma City, some Republicans accused him of hysteria.
. . . the federal budget on anti-terror activities tripled during Clinton's watch, to about $6.7 billion. After the effort to kill bin Laden with missiles in August 1998 failed ? he had apparently left a training camp in Afghanistan a few hours earlier ? recent news reports have detailed numerous other instances, as late as December 2000, when Clinton was on the verge of unleashing the military again. In each case, the White House chose not to act because of uncertainty that intelligence was good enough to find bin Laden, and concern that a failed attack would only enhance his stature in the Arab world. >>
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.htm

Yes we sure do, but you put the wrong dates down, it should have been 2001.

<<The Bush administration has concluded that Osama bin Laden was present during the battle for Tora Bora late last year and that failure to commit U.S. ground troops to hunt him was its gravest error in the war against al Qaeda, according to civilian and military officials with first-hand knowledge.>>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62618-2002Apr16

 

[Plainsman]

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So since when have I been a fan of Nancy Pelosi? Why throw this one in my face? It is meaningless.

And, once again, you have failed to read my mind.

Well you are a lib that likes to "parrot" your parties leaders and only trust the MSM. So sorry about the mind reading attempt, it just seemed obvious to me.