Best oil filter???

SoulWinner

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You know what? I completly forgot about NAPA filters. I got one of those once, and not too long ago I was in there looking at a new oil filter, some kind of heavey duty thing for extended service intervals. I appreciate the links. I have learned a lot about oil filters, I didn't realize there was that much to know about them. I think I will switch to NAPA filters from now on.
 

LubeDude

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Originally posted by Chief 101:<br /> Interesting LD, but it makes no conclusions based on the real uses of oil filters in real vihicles... just a thought :)
I have to agree, but its an interesting read anyway.
 

Terry H

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Now, LD, if they wants to take the oil and filter from my ranch truck after 8000miles and test it I would know if I should have changed it a while back when I had it in the shop... :)
 

pjc

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hey crazy charlie......I saw that post long ago here about oil filt. shootout. I dumped the Fram and now use Purolater only.<br /><br />My opinion.
 

jimr

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Mark42 I know drain back is bad just stated it wrong he makes it sound like the oil in the pan is clean witch it is not. over all it was an ok article.
 

18rabbit

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A roll of toilet paper. See either the Motor Guard MG30 or the Gulf Coast Filter Jr.
 

dhammann

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Don’t rule out Walmart, it is a pretty decent filter and good value. I don’t get too finicky over oil filters since most of the oil gets by-passed around them anyway on cold starts and high RPMs.
 

crazy charlie

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pjc,sounds like you made a smart move.I have to admit ,the fram is very tempting though.There are always plenty to choose from what ever store you are in,there always seems to be the right one in stock,the new roughed up good grip top of the filter for hand tightening and they are cheap!!!Very good marketing for a sub-marginal product.But WE all know better!!Charlie
 

kenimpzoom

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I use AC Delco, much better than Fram and only a dollar more.<br /><br />Ken
 

dhammann

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the wally world filter is the same as the AC Delco but more than dollar less.
 

Dave Abrahamson

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> <br />About 30 years ago there was an aftermarket add-on filter that used a roll of toilet paper (cardboard tube removed) as the filtering element. Haven't seen one of those since the mid 70s.
Now you have JB ;) <br /><br />
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Barlow

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scented or unscented??<br /><br />with aloe or with-out??<br /><br />two ply or single??<br /><br />double roll or single roll??<br /><br /> :p :D
 

Kenneth Brown

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I don't think that thing would work very well. It would only take a short while to plug the outer layer, thats why the others have pleats, more surface. Think of how hard it must be to force oil through all of that paper also. My thoughts is the oil just bypassed because of the pressure.
 
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OEM only for my stuff. They have a vested interest and are engineered for that engine- period. No argument.<br /><br />That was a very interesting webpage posted by LD. Some results below.<br /><br />The only OEM filter in the first round tabulation was Motorcraft with the best results. I suspect the same is true for any OEM filter whether it be Motorcraft, Delco, Mopar, etc.<br /><br />Amsoil: 40 vs 34 = -15%<br />Mobil 1: 40 vs 30 = -25%<br />K&N: 42 vs 36 = -14.5%<br />Fram: 40 vs 38 = -9.5%<br />Bosch: 40 vs 30 = -25%<br />Napa Silver: 38 vs 32 = -15.7%<br />Fram TG: 40 vs 22 = -30%<br />Napa Gold: 40 vs 32 = -20%<br />Pure1 40 vs 28 = -30%<br />Purolator+ : 40 vs 32 = -20%<br />Motorcraft: 40 vs 24 = -40%<br />STP: 40 vs 34 = -15%<br /><br />Like JB said, (paraphrasing) I'm getting older/cheaper and smarter. Just change the oil often and use good quality OEM stuff.
 

18rabbit

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Originally posted by Kenneth Brown:<br /> I don't think that thing would work very well. It would only take a short while to plug the outer layer, thats why the others have pleats, more surface.
No. They work extremely well. Toilet paper filters hit the market in the 60’s and never really went away. “Engineered” filters have pleats to afford greater surface area because they have substantially less filtering medium, that’s all. A roll of cellulose (paper) has a lot more surface area for the oils to pass thru. By the time the oil gets thru all that paper it is sub-micron filtered better than any of the other filters being discussed here.<br /><br />The masses bought into “computer designed” oil filters in the 70’s and the demand for the Motor Guard M-30 waned. The M-30 housing was so well made, Motor Guard never stopped making it, but instead buts a decal on it, and a “computer designed” filter inside, and sells them as 150 psi pneumatic air filters. A guy (Ralph Woods) in Florida refits the housing core for a roll of toilet paper and still sells them as oil filters.<br /><br /> http://www.bypassfilter.com <br /><br />Gulf Coast Filter makes their version of a toilet paper filter (called the GCF Jr) as well as an oil filter that takes a roll of paper towels. There are a couple companies that use the GCF paper towel oil filter and never change the oil in their fleet of trucks. They just change the paper towel roll, top off the oil, and keep going.<br /><br /> http://www.gulfcoastfilters.com <br /><br />The question was about the "best" oil filter. The answer is a roll of toilet paper. It just happens to also be the cheapest filter you can buy. :)
 

Kenneth Brown

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18 rabbit- You may be right, it might be better. I still disagree on a point. Surface area is only the outer part, not the inner part. I'll have to look at your links, sounds interesting. When installing these types of filters do you remove the bypass in the block? When I raced we would always remove the bypass and tap the hole for a pipe plug, this was a sbc.
 

Terry H

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I use one on my shop compresser and you'd think it would severely restrict the flow, but it don't, and it really helps keep my air lines clean... :) <br />Chief
 

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Originally posted by DJ:<br /> Like JB said, (paraphrasing) I'm getting older/cheaper and smarter. Just change the oil often and use good quality OEM stuff.
Not trying to start anything here but, did JB say that? Where?The only mention as to frequency of changes I see is on the Castrol thread.If I recall it was something between 10,000 to 13,000 miles on his Mercedes.He also initially stated on this thread that he thought Fram oil filters were about as good a filter as you could get.Maybe I missed something.
 

Kenneth Brown

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Ok- I have read the links. As I said it will restrict the flow of oil to a car. It restricts it so that that you cannot use it alone, you must use a typical filter also.
 
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