Best oil filter???

[dhammann]

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I wouldn’t wipe my butt with an oil filter, so I wouldn’t filter oil with my butt wiping stuff! Anyone that strays from the owner’s manual is asking for trouble or throwing money away. Filter media is sized to remove specified micron size particles, while it is possible to reduce the micron size to whatever you want you also restrict flow. The more you restrict, the more you bypass around the filter….so in essence you are filtering less oil! An oil filter is supplemental as most metallic particles will fall to the bottom of the sump where they are removed with your next oil change. The Automotive aftermarket is like the medical aftermarket quacks…..their always looking for suckers

 

[dolluper]

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The best oil filter is the one in the trash can after you have changed the oil and filter since it's done it's job and you still have a running motor ,in my op is when you change it is more important

 

[DJ]

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I wouldn’t wipe my butt with an oil filter, so I wouldn’t filter oil with my butt wiping stuff! Anyone that strays from the owner’s manual is asking for trouble or throwing money away. Filter media is sized to remove specified micron size particles, while it is possible to reduce the micron size to whatever you want you also restrict flow. The more you restrict, the more you bypass around the filter….so in essence you are filtering less oil! An oil filter is supplemental as most metallic particles will fall to the bottom of the sump where they are removed with your next oil change. The Automotive aftermarket is like the medical aftermarket quacks…..their always looking for suckers

Agreed.<br /><br />The TP filter has been around forever. But, we all know that nothing new (modern media/pleated)can possibly be any good.

 

[CalicoKid]

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Does anyone have a canister filter with a replaceable element in thier car? (Like a motorcycle) My VW does, I only use the VW elements made in Germany by, as far as I can tell, a company called Energetic?? They cost me about ten dollars and come with a new canister o-ring and drain plug washer. Where in heck would my anti-drainback valve be? I'd like to replace it if it's simple as I've got over 100k on the car now.

 

[Triton II]

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An oil filter is supplemental as most metallic particles will fall to the bottom of the sump where they are removed with your next oil change. The Automotive aftermarket is like the medical aftermarket quacks…..their always looking for suckers <br />

Maybe I should have started a new thread, however the statement by DJ above got me thinking. Many years ago I tried an oil additive in a motorcycle that claimed to strengthen gears, improve the clutch and provide numerous other mechanical benefits. It was a French product that added chlorine or chlorophyll(? memory lapse here) or something. Anyway, I always wondered if it worked, as it definitely improved the gearchange on the bike, but I didn't keep it long enough to know whether it helped the mechanical longevity of the beast. I also wondered why, if it did work, the major oil manufacturers didn't make similar products.

 

[Skinnywater]

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Calicokid asks;

Does anyone have a canister filter with a replaceable element in thier car?

All 3 Mercedes in the family uses canister type filters.<br />They won't drain back unless you open the canister. Consequently, open the canister enough to unseal the o-ring before you drain the engine oil.

 

[DJ]

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Does anyone have a canister filter with a replaceable element in thier car?

Canister type filters are not as common in autos as they used to be. Pretty rare actually.<br /><br />There is one reason-convenience.<br /><br />They are still the norm in HD trucks, industrial equipment and AG.<br /><br />The most important part is what the canister (element) is made of, not that it is a canister.

 

[18rabbit]

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Originally posted by DJ:<br /> The most important part is what the canister (element) is made of, not that it is a canister.

What is the part of the element that does the filtering made of?

 

[Skinnywater]

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DJ wrote;<br />

Canister type filters are not as common in autos as they used to be. Pretty rare actually.<br />

They're making a comeback and will likely be the trend with all the manufactures.<br />It's pretty easy to incorporate an integrated canister into modular engine design with a plastic/carbonfiber screw cap.<br />The ultimate purpose is to make oil filter elements easier to recycle since the metal housing of existing filters will be absent.<br />They're pretty slick since they're upright.<br />Unscrew the cap, drain the engine oil, lift out and replace the element and o-ring, screw on the cap. <br />No more oily mess running down the block, steering components, splash shields, etc.,etc.

 

[DJ]

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What is the part of the element that does the filtering made of?

It all depends on who the manufacturer is. Usually it is the same medium as most "spin on" type filters.<br /><br />

They're making a comeback and will likely be the trend with all the manufactures

I do not totally disagree with that statement, yet it is a long way off until they are the norm again. Two reasons: expense and packaging.

 

[CalicoKid]

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I have a drain plug in the bottom of the canister, the whole thing is mounted vertically at the front of the engine and the bottom of the filter is level with the bottom of the oil pan. So I suppose drain back wouldn't be an issue.<br /><br />Hmmm, looks like a roll of TP might fit right in there too...

 

[Marc J.]

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I purchased a couple of the new Napa Spin-flow filters (by Wix). ($7 for the two) I couldn't bring myself to pay $6+ for the Gold, and I understand the Silver has questionable construction. I'll try to cut one open when they're off.

 

[LubeDude]

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Here is a link showing how a By-Pass filter works, ya, its an Amsoil site, but they all work the same, even the toilet paper ones. They are an auxilary filter and do not take the place of your regular filter. Likely if you run this type system you wouldnt ever have to change your oil again using the proper oil.<br /><br /> By-Pass Filter

 

[ob]

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Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /> Likely if you run this type system you wouldnt ever have to change your oil again using the proper oil.

Now if I had made a claim like that I'd expect some fallout.Do you truly believe that? I noticed your opening choice of word was "likely" which sort of leaves an escape route.Not trying to belittle or agitate,but then you said it ,and those are some pretty strong words.Especially the two words "wouldn't ever."

 

[Realgun]

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As stated above the best filter is the one that gets changed with the oil! Having said that Fram filters are not too good for 1 good reason.<br />They allow oil to drain back after a few weeks.<br />My Dad was big on Fram when I was growing up so thats what I used along with Quaker State 10w-40.<br />I have since found out a few things.<br />Use the Oil the MFG says to use!<br />Frams OK in a pinch but...<br />I had a Plymouth Voyager van with an OHC Mistubishi motor in it. Nice motor but after two three weeks after an oil change, upon a cold start you could hear a clicking noises for about ten seconds.<br />I was looking on the net about 5 years ago and found that Fram was not a good filter and why.<br />So I changed to Purolator and have never heard that clicking noise again. Fram was rated as the best oil filter by Consumers Reports. But I wonder if they realized that the drain back might be an issue.

 

[Realgun]

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As stated above the best filter is the one that gets changed with the oil! Having said that Fram filters are not too good for 1 good reason.<br />They allow oil to drain back after a few weeks.<br />My Dad was big on Fram when I was growing up so thats what I used along with Quaker State 10w-40.<br />I have since found out a few things.<br />Use the Oil the MFG says to use!<br />Frams OK in a pinch but...<br />I had a Plymouth Voyager van with an OHC Mistubishi motor in it. Nice motor but after two three weeks after an oil change, upon a cold start you could hear a clicking noises for about ten seconds.<br />I was looking on the net about 5 years ago and found that Fram was not a good filter and why.<br />So I changed to Purolator and have never heard that clicking noise again. Fram was rated as the best oil filter by Consumers Reports. But I wonder if they realized that the drain back might be an issue.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by ob:<br />

<br /> Do you truly believe that?

Yes I do, there are some Dodge diesels running around out there with over 350,000 miles on them with just filter changes and top up oil.

 

[walleyehed]

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LD, if you catch this one, why has nobody said anything about Baldwin/Hastings filters here...<br />Fram don't hold a candle to either one and refused to compare the Baldwin to theirs...why????

 

[walleyehed]

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Crap......double post....sorry.