Best OMC motors?

orbanp

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In another thread (Start-to-finish, complete rebuild of a 1965 Evinrude Fastwin 18HP, $90 purchase p...) Zephyr wrote:

"Yep, the 18's are among the top three best motors ever built by OMC."

Just curious, which are those, and why?

Peter
 

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Well that question will get you a HUGE array of answers, but Im with Zephyr.

The 18's pound per pound are great strong motors for their weight. I myself prefer the 1957's in both Evinrude and Johnson trim, but that is just me.

The Big Twins are another fan favourite, myself included, as they make up the bulk of my personal collection. I would say the 1957 Johnson Javelin and the 1958 Johnson Super Sea Horse Super Quiet the top 2, both of which I own.

I think the overall consensus is that the Lightwins (3hp) motors are the best. I dont have any of these little guys and dont know much about them, but they are known to be light/strong little buggers that just keep on going.
 

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I would agree the lightwins 3 hp is a stout motor. I had one and it took a swim with me and its still ticking. too bad i sold her
 

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i like the mid 50's johnsons, ( the little 5.5's are my favorites) those are some of the smoothest running, quiet motors ever built. and if treated right, they will live forever.
 

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I would concur that the FD, RD & JW (JH) motors are probably the best, along with the QD 10-horse. What they have going for them is simplicity, durability, maturity (as in refined & enduring design), parts availability, plus light weight. Honorable mention goes for the Gale 5, 15, 25, 35 & 40 since they were the old familiar Johnnyrudes.


The 18 horse evolved into the 20 for 1966, then was hot-rodded into the 25 for 1969. That 25 was amazing, having 30-mph speed out of an 82-lb. package.

The early 25s were known as Big Twins. They evolved into a 30, then 35. By the time they reached 40 horsepower they gained the super-quiet double-walled lower unit and a more sophisticated cooling system, not that they were complicated. The 40s had large displacement and were understressed, having the simplicity of a single carb. The old 25/30 powerhead & simpler lower unit re-emerged as the 28, then they got the bigger powerhead and continued as a 33. After 1970 the 33 & 40 lines merged into an economy 40 (actually something the Gale division at OMC had done years earlier). They were in continuous production through 1976, then continued in some locals as a Commercial 40 into the mid-1980s.

The cute little 3-horse was smooth, light, simple, reliable and long-lasting. It evolved into the 4-horse for 1969 and carried on into the 1980s. It was also the same powerhead that the 1980+ 4.5-horse was based on, so honorable mention goes to them.

The 5? was also an excellent motor, and evolved into the 6 that ran through 1979. The 7? was also very good in its day but it went out of production after 1958. The result is certain powerhead parts are harder to get a hold of since they did not have the production run and evolution of the little 5.5 ? 6. Still a very nice motor, but the 10 is better.

Ah, the 10. It pioneered the F-N-R gearcase & remote fuel tank that forever changed boating. It was a jewelled powerhead, which means it used needle-bearing races to reduce oil requirements & increase rebuildability. OMC refined the F-N-R gearcase over a relatively short span and it went on to serve in the 18-20-25 after it was deemed to be over-engineered for the 10. For 1958 the 10 got a lighter version that essentially was derived from the 5? & 7?. The 10 ran in that form through 1963.

I love the little 9? that was produced from 1964-1973. To me they are quite compact, well balanced, full-featured, and in just under the 10-horse limit. Not everyone shares the enthusiasm. For one thing, they are more involved to work on due to the compact nature. They do not naturally lend themselves to remote controls, though OMC had an elaborate kit for those that wanted to (BRP still has the parts to do it). I think they are very functional, but others have referred to them unflatteringly as ?The Turtleback?. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Those motors were in turn replaced by the 9.9 & 15 for 1974. They were a beautiful, powerful compact package that was not without its idiosyncrasies. There were tradeoffs; the early versions had the easy to service breaker point ignition but tended to foul plugs and were not the greatest trollers (especially the 15), while the CDI models 1977-on ran better but suffered from the ?replaceable, expensive black box? syndrome. The whole package was refined over its long run and really was quite a nice motor. They were available with electric start in the same compact package. The electric start models had a full charging system, something the vaunted FD-series 15-18-20-25 never had.

Some of my boating friends think I am crazy to belong the 2-stroke camp.
 

1946Zephyr

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Yes, TN's reply is outstanding. :D Wished you would chime in more often, my friend.

Yep, the old 18's are among my top three favorite motors and like HighTrim, we think a lot alike. I like the '57 '58 models the best, mostly because of the classic design and the quality of the build. The '57 '58 Big Twin is also my favorite. As far as my other favorites, OMC, didn't build a bad motor, until the 70's. Personally, I'm happy with the motors they built from 1909 till about 1970.

One of my future projects is taking a 1972, 40hp and retro-fitting it to a 1957 Big Twin body. Do you think that some would do a double take, if they see a 1957 40hp on the water? Hmmmmmmm
 

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u fellas are in the home land of the outboards in my collection 1970 60hp ,the only one in the world with my conversion on
 

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1970 60's are good, but nothing compared to the old Big Twins, quality wise. :D I do have to admit, they are a lot better than the earlier 55's though. You couldn't give me one of those.
 

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not everybody likes chocolates , ha , cheers
 

TN-25

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I will second that, and not just because I agree with him. :)
Guys, you are making me blush.

I think that OMC made fine larger motors as well, but of those I would have to say that the inline 3 cylinder models that came in during the Powershift II era were the best, meaning 1973-onward, specifically 65, 70 & 75 horse motors. As much as I love the V4s, there were many permutations, including versions with expensive parts, plus some dubious attempts at raising the bar technologically. Some of the CD boxes on those V4s were also subject to failure, which could prove expensive.

The 1973+ triples were loopers that had the bugs worked out, plus the ignition, steering & shift mechanisms likewise were matured. They made respectable power, were reliable and modern, Fuel economy was good with the loopers as well.. The twin 50 & 55 was also a nice motor. They did not like to be lugged down like the Big Twins of old, but they were economical for their output. My favorites of the larger motors were the triples though.
Just make sure a carb sync tool is in your toolbox for the triples. All three carbs need to be operating equally in order for those motors to make power, be economical and be durable.
 

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Thanks for that little bit of info TN_25 as i am a great fan of those motors 1970 - 1998 those are the only motors i buy & fix them good & proper its my hobby i love the most ,my 60hp sleeps in the house , not putting it on a boat , keeping it preserved for years to come i have made some great improvements on the 70hp regarding the water flow & water getting into the ports , at least ive got you on my side now ,thank you
 

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Well, back to what the OP stated, is true. The old 18's are among the best of the best and they're still a dime a dozen. Boating should not be expensive or stressful and a fully tuned 18 definately has a very remote chance of puting you in that position. If it breaks down, parts are cheap, even if you have to buy a parts motor. Consumables are still readily available, just about anywhere. A good candidate, for someone who is on a fixed budget and doesn't like to spend a lot of money for repairs.

Theses newer loopers are nice, but if something breaks, be prepared to open your wallet to expensive parts. LOL
 

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WoW tn-25 you type long. Good history lessen though.
 

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the mid to late 80s and 90s carbbed V-4s and V-6s are top notch motors and will last you a lifetime if you take care of them...I am not a fan of points, I way prefer power packs. I totally detest any EFI outboard motor. thats just my humble opinion.
 

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I agree with the sentiment on the FD model motors. I've had a QD-22 10 hp, RXE-14 33 hp and now my FD-20 20 hp which is the best pound-for-pound motor I've ever had (although my crappy little 3.0 HP Gamefisher may take a close second). It's strong, simple, reliable and looks pretty good. It comes from the all white fiberglass cowl era of OMC design, so it's not as purty as the two-tone 50's models, especially the reverse two-tone of the '58 models, but I like it better than the modern, black, plastic models and mine actually matches my white boat, so I guess it's ok. Best of all, it makes me look good when it fires right up at the dock in just one or two pulls while most of the other folks are trying every trick in the book to get their big fancy motors to start, or stop for that matter.
 

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Re: Best OMC motors?

Thank you everyone for the great discussion and all the details!

Now, I have the '70 60HP 3-cylinder, with battery CD ignition and electro-hydraulic shifting that I picked up last fall with no ignition.
I am sure I will be posting about it in the spring when I get to it.

Thanks, Peter
 

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I would like to vote for the 60* V6 motors with carbs. They are reliable, powerful and seem to me to be the pinnicle of large multi cylinder 2 cycle motors. Those are my criteria.

There is no doubting the success of the big twin motors, especially the 35 and 40HP version.

Do I get a second on my vote for the '59 Fat Fifty? Just kidding. Very rugged motor, prototype for J/E future. Still lots of them around.
 

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the mid to late 80s and 90s carbbed V-4s and V-6s are top notch motors and will last you a lifetime if you take care of them...I am not a fan of points, I way prefer power packs. I totally detest any EFI outboard motor. thats just my humble opinion.

I actually consider my '81 Evinrude 90HP to be kinda "newish" :p My '73 Johnson 85 was a good motor but the primer system makes the '81 SO much easier to cold start as opposed to the '73's choke.
 
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