Bush commutes jail time

[Tail_Gunner]

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Christ you guy's, Scooter was caght in a polictical nightmare, if the prosecuting attourney could not get a conviction, he or she would face sanction;s form hell. Although i do not like the current admin, he was gulity of BS next question

 

[WillyBWright]

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Vlad, more than one Bushie leaked Plame's identity. Both should suffer the consequences as should those that directed them to do so. It was an act of Treason.

The investigation I want to see is just how much damage the CIA suffered. The cover company dissolved. All of her contacts probably had to be reassigned and all of their contacts too. This was a vital covert operation that suffered, not just one operative. The CIA lost forever a MAJOR element of their intelligence gathering capabilities that took years to establish, costing I'm sure well into the millions. All to get even with one man who had the audacity to tell the Truth about the one Bushism that was central to sell the invasion of Iraq...the spectre of the Mushroom cloud. Unfortunaltely that report won't be able to reach the public eye for quite some time. It itself would reveal much that mussn't at this time.

I'd also like to know where that forged document claiming the sale of Uranium to Iraq came from. Rove's desk? He's the one man with the most to gain from it. Junior isn't nearly smart enough. It had to come from the chief puppeteer. (imho)

You Neocons just insist on digging and digging and digging to divert attention from the subject of this debate, Skater Libby. Type away til your fingers are worn to bloody stumps if it makes you feel justified in supporting these gangsters. You're changing nobody's mind. But then again, neither am I.

 

[PW2]

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That's pretty much SOP for the Neo Cons, Willy. If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger. It is on full display here, as it was when Wilson wrote his article in the NYT.

The real problem with the Libby pardon is not so much that he serves no jail time, but that he is protected and we may never learn the "real" reason for getting into this war. We are left to speculate.

Clearly, they had to *KNOW* there was never a nuclear threat from Saddam, even as they tried to sell it as real. So there had to be a reason for this war--we just don't know what exactly it was.

Sometimes I kind of wish I would be around 100 years from now to see how historians regard this administration. Will it be regarded as the worst in history, or be treated more kindly as merely "one of the worst"?

 

[treedancer]

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Quote Plainsman


Yeppers, to jail you go. If you have no positive proof they are LEGAL, then off you go. ?Why take the chance?

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=204873

Another Plainsman quote,( Remember your words, I know I will.)


The first Plainsman quote was from the thread titled (Immigration Bill Dead.. Good.)Eric was in a debate with OldMercsrule. Seems Eric s solution at that time, was to lock up businessman if they didn?t fill the papers put correctly and inadvertently hire an illegal. Now he is on this thread defending the commutation of a convicted felon. come on Eric lets have some consistency. The second Plainsman quote was more recent, on this thread.

 

[Plainsman]

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Quote Plainsman


Yeppers, to jail you go. If you have no positive proof they are LEGAL, then off you go. ?Why take the chance?

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=204873

Another Plainsman quote,( Remember your words, I know I will.)


The first Plainsman quote was from the thread titled (Immigration Bill Dead.. Good.)Eric was in a debate with OldMercsrule. Seems Eric s solution at that time, was to lock up businessman if they didn?t fill the papers put correctly and inadvertently hire an illegal. Now he is on this thread defending the commutation of a convicted felon. come on Eric lets have some consistency. The second Plainsman quote was more recent, on this thread.

I'll try harder for ya Don

 

[treedancer]

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Quote Plainsman

I'll try harder for ya Don


Try harder? Guess “OldMercsrule” better start looking for a bondsman. Ya hear that JR, better have a bondsman on retainer.

 

[POINTER94]

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I think that Scooter in fact knows the "Meaning of Life". But is just won't share it because he is covering up for.... (let's see who do we hate the most today???) .....VP Cheney!

Let's set off some liberal nerves shall we? Since Richard Armitage is the KNOWN leaker (this is not disputable, he admitted it) and he worked for Colin Powell, shouldn't we bring Powell in and run him through the liberal meat grinder for political gain??? Of course he is a liar, and he will lie to cover up and Big Oil, and Cheney and Haliburton and ........ Opps I can't say that about Powell, he walks on water?

Lets see if this tracts,

Something is being covered up.
Armitage is known to be the leaker.
He worked for Powell.
Let's question Libby......

Got it. Liberal logic, you just got to have kool-aid to swallow it.....

FTR: I think Libby should go to jail for some amount of time. Lying, especially lying as a public official just can't be tolerated. There are millions who disagree with this, and we should get a good idea of what the percentages are of those who approve of lying if Hillary wins the nomination.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Quote Plainsman

I'll try harder for ya Don


Try harder? Guess “OldMercsrule” better start looking for a bondsman. Ya hear that JR, better have a bondsman on retainer.

Hey: Mr. Tree, Eric, (Plainsman), does in fact have a "blind illogical spot" for business, (not sure if the psychosis extends to issues other then immigration or not, or if it is just my business that he has a hard on for or all business); some other iboaters who fancy themselves as Cornservatives have the same "blind illogical spot" fer "big oil". Some are jus' trollin' n' some are serious, my well known lack of mind readin' skills makes it difficult fer ol' Murky to sort out whos doin' what. I: as an owner of a small business in a Liberal dominated "sanctuary" area have a plan to stay out of the 'double jeopardy' crosshairs of those who wish me ill, (most Liberals and some emotionally and logically challanged Cornservatives), I will pull out me copies of the Government issued IDs and sworn statements of any potential illegal employee, then initiate a lawsuit for the kicked in doors and broken equipment and lost business that BIG GOVERNMENT has caused me, (so: bring it on). Eric also seems unable to admit when he is wrong as well. That said: we all have the "double standard problem" in one way or another in one degree or another, and it only gets partially solved once a person recognizes the problem and attempts to corntrol the impulses of envy n' greed n' projectin' our own deficiencies on others, that Democrats n' Liberals n' their mouthpiece the MSM usually exploit on a nearly daily basis. I've said here from time to time it is amazing that Cornservatives even exist with the dumbing down of public schools, and the domination of achedemia n' the MSM by Liberals who try to drive their minions with illogical feelings based emotions, (and have some success with Cornservatives as well).

Back on topic:

I'm glad Mr. Bush took down the jail time fer Mr. Libby but left significant cornsequences fer perjury. It strikes me that the double standard is in full play here. President Clinton clearly intended to perjur himself, (does not matter if it was a bj he was lying about), yet he is now an impeached Democrat Rock Star, Judge Hastings was convicted of accepting a bribe as a Federal Judge and is a current big gun in the Democrat party in power right now. Barney Frank ran a pimp service from his apartment, n' Rep Jefferson still holds power and was relected by Democrats. Democrats seem to really like to vote for known criminals, and want to make crimes political in nature. Democrat: no problem, Republican: "string 'em up", to quote me Bro Haut. The Democrat voters are the problem, as the pols are just a reflection of their supporters.

DEMOCRATS: Does it make ya proud ta know that Ted Kennedy killed a young woman as a direct result of his unlawfull drunken actions, n' set the stage fer future tollerance of the Democrat voters fer all sorts of crimes n' perversion? Is Liberalism a mental disorder? JR

 

[Haut Medoc]

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I fail to see what any of this has to do with teaching homosexuality in public schools......
How did a guy with the last name "Libby", turn out to be a conservative anyhoo?......
Just don't seem right.....​

 

[Plainsman]

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Quote OMR " Eric also seems unable to admit when he is wrong as well" End quote

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong murkey. But I'm not wrong in my eyes. And because you say I am , doesn't mean I am wrong. You may not like how I feel about it, tough luck. I explained what I meant in terms a first grader could understand, but you failed to understand. You have your panties in bunch over nothing.

I know you think you are the smartest guy around cause of all the reading you say you do, but I beg to differ. You also seem to have more problems with the Conservatives on the board than you do with the libs.

And it's President Bush, not Mr. Bush, that's another lib tactic. Disrespect.

Have a nice day

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Quote OMR " Eric also seems unable to admit when he is wrong as well" End quote

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong murkey. But I'm not wrong in my eyes.

I know you think your right Eric, as yer brian shorts out when ya ponder immigration and or Murky's small business that's all: real simple fer those of us with one functional brain cell ta understand. Some parts of the vast codes (Federal, State, Local) all business owners are exposed to are impossible to obey. You just can't understand that for some unknown reason, or maybe ya can and just want me outa business. Immigration laws in a "sanctuary state" is one of 'em. That is why I employ the tactics I employ. When you turn me in the prosecutor behind the 'jack booted thugs' that you want to break down my doors will find it impossible to prosecute me for any crime, as I will show them copies of authentic government issued documents and a sworn signed statement from the potentially offending employee. If I actually knew the employee was illegal they would never work here, but because of my local government I can't possibly tell. Real simple.


And because you say I am , doesn't mean I am wrong. You may not like how I feel about it, tough luck. I explained what I meant in terms a first grader could understand, but you failed to understand. You have your panties in bunch over nothing.

Please Eric, no mind reading. If I MISTAKENLY HIRE AN ILLEGAL: YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL. That is what you said and I really do understand EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID. My panties are real comfy Eric.

I know you think you are the smartest guy around cause of all the reading you say you do, but I beg to differ. You also seem to have more problems with the Conservatives on the board than you do with the libs.

Who ever said I was the "smartest guy around", I ONLY HAVE ONE BRAIN CELL. Eric: Please don't try to read minds. You really are not very good at it.

And it's President Bush, not Mr. Bush, that's another lib tactic. Disrespect.

Yer not my momma Eric!!!

Have a nice day

Eric, some Cornservatives are like Muslims, if a person has a dissagreement ya wanna take me head off. King Skinny is that way too. Sorry, But we just don't agree here. You want me in jail fer a legislative mistake, (not a mistake in Mr. Kennedy's eyes: BTW), Ted Kennedy baited the trap with 40 years back, and I'm determined not to allow that. Real simple. Ya don't need to get so nasty Eric: it's just a dissagreement. JR

 

[Plainsman]

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OK, for the last time. If you hire an illegal immigrant unknowingly, but you actually asked them to show you ID and a SS card, then no jail. If you just hire them at their word, then off to jail you.
And if you have a problem with that, then you are saying it absolutely fine to hire illegals.
Can I say it any simpler for ya?

If you can't take the time to ask for ID and a SS card and compare that to what they write on the W-4 form, maybe you should spend less time here in DC.

And talk about getting nasty, WOW!!!

FWIW, I wasn't even thinking of Skinny when I typed that. Think about it.

 

[Coors]

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The libs tried, but their faulty logic makes no sense- just grabbing at straws, as usual.

 

[POINTER94]

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Perhaps they can point to all those bright rays of sunshine coming out of congress now that they have taken over? Yea!! .. Takin back America. A new tone.... I'm feelin' it!

 

[OldMercsRule]

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OK, for the last time. If you hire an illegal immigrant unknowingly, but you actually asked them to show you ID and a SS card, then no jail.

Eric, that is NOT WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAID. You had no idea of my new hire policies when you said if I mistakenly hired an illegal then off to jail YOU, (ol' Murky) goes.

If you just hire them at their word, then off to jail you.

I guess ya want lots of prisons fer sloppy business owners, (I don't happen to be a sloppy business owner). I think yer whacked and VERY ILLOGICAL with yer anti business attitude. Why not force the GOVERNMENT, (who intentionally created this problem in the FIRST PLACE), to fix the problem by the issuance of a high teck Federal Employment card, (non citizens would be required to pay for frequent reissues to keep track of 'em n' prevent forgery). NO CARD = NO JOB, real simple if ya have an open mind and don't just wanna pound business that you clearly don't understand.

And if you have a problem with that, then you are saying it absolutely fine to hire illegals.

NO ERIC, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO DON"T GET IT AND WANT TO PUNISH BUSINESS OWNERS. I never said it was fine to hire illegals. YOU CAN'T READ MINDS SO STICK TO READIN' WRITTEN WORDS.

Can I say it any simpler for ya?

If you can't take the time to ask for ID and a SS card and compare that to what they write on the W-4 form, maybe you should spend less time here in DC.

Yer not my momma: Eric.

And talk about getting nasty, WOW!!!

FWIW, I wasn't even thinking of Skinny when I typed that. Think about it.

There are two Cornservatives that take issue with me. You and Skinny. There may be others who lurk and have not cornfronted me, as the two of you have. You both have accused me of acting like or being a Liberal, 'cause I don't think the way ya want me to think. Again: you are not my momma. JR

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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That's enough.