chevy vs. dodge

[buckw13]

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Just a little update here. I ended up getting the Dodge. The thing pulls like a tank. Here in upstate ny pulling up to the finger lakes there are aolt of big hills. THis truck doesn't even blink at them. Pulls up the hills alot smoother and the tranny shifts ALOT smoother than the gmc ever did. The truck has every possible tow option i believe i could get. 3.92 axle, trailer tow, 6 spd tranny, heavy duty engine cooling, aux tranny cooler, heavy duty springs all around. It definately pulls the boat very well.

 

[bamafutbal]

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have a 07 tahoe, now with 80k miles and no problems. but compared to my 2005 dodge 2500 diesel, the tahoe sure is slow when pulling a boat

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Just a little update here. I ended up getting the Dodge. The thing pulls like a tank. Here in upstate ny pulling up to the finger lakes there are aolt of big hills. THis truck doesn't even blink at them. Pulls up the hills alot smoother and the tranny shifts ALOT smoother than the gmc ever did. The truck has every possible tow option i believe i could get. 3.92 axle, trailer tow, 6 spd tranny, heavy duty engine cooling, aux tranny cooler, heavy duty springs all around. It definately pulls the boat very well.

Good choice. My last 3 trucks were Dodge 3/4 tons. One was a V-10 488ci that was a stump puller. If you want a workhorse, then Dodge is the ticket. If you want creature comforts and a nice ride, you can't beat a Chevy... I've owned both of them.....

 

[reelfishin]

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I've had experience with all three over the past 5 or 6 years.
The way I see it is this, Dodge is an OK truck with some serious issues with fuel economy and transmission reliability, Chevy gets the best mileage, ( I got 21 MPG towing a loaded car trailer to NY with a 1/2 ton 4x2 with a 4.8L engine), and Ford is probably the strongest and most durable overall. The Ford just seems better thought out to me. Forget Toyota or any other foreign truck, I'm a firm believer in BUY AMERICAN.
I currently own both a Ford and a Dodge truck, the Ford sees more use since it's better on fuel and more comfortable but the Dodge is a good work horse too. The Ford has cost me far less over the years to own than has the Dodge, which has had a new trans, new rear differential, and one intake gasket job in only 67,000 miles, the Ford has only cost me normal maintenance in 120,000 miles.

 

[rrussell16]

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Glad to see you went with the Dodge. As you mentioned, they do pull well. I'm not sure why everyone is complaining about fuel economy with the Dodge? My '08 Hemi Ram gets 15 MPG pulling 5000#'s. Much better than my buddies '08 Chevy pulling his right behind us. He was getting 10.2 pulling the same weight. Plus, I would walk away from him when pulling long hills.

 

[642mx]

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Forget Toyota or any other foreign truck, I'm a firm believer in BUY AMERICAN.

The Toyota Tundra is made by Americans in the USA with 80% or more USA content. Where is the Fiat, Ford or Motors Liquidation Company trucks made?.... sure some are built here, but you better check the label to be sure! No need to check the label on my Tundra... it was built in the great state of Texas.

Here is some info on US content on some popular vehicles: (be sure to see the American content on the Ram...lol) Keep in mind this is US content, not North American content like there window sticker shows. http://http://www.zimbio.com/GM+Shutdown/articles/qZXJMyCGAKw/25+Vehicles+Less+American+Toyota+Tundra

 

[WIMUSKY]

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The Toyota Tundra is made by Americans in the USA with 80% or more USA content. Where is the Fiat, Ford or Motors Liquidation Company trucks made?.... sure some are built here, but you better check the label to be sure! No need to check the label on my Tundra... it was built in the great state of Texas.

Here is some info on US content on some popular vehicles: (be sure to see the American content on the Ram...lol) Keep in mind this is US content, not North American content like there window sticker shows. http://http://www.zimbio.com/GM+Shutdown/articles/qZXJMyCGAKw/25+Vehicles+Less+American+Toyota+Tundra

I hear ya. My Dodge was built in Mexico. How sad. I still can't get myself to buy a "foreign" truck tho.

 

[skargo]

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I hear ya. My Dodge was built in Mexico. How sad. I still can't get myself to buy a "foreign" truck tho.

I have a 98.5 dodge cummins and it was built in St Louis, why they build the HD dodges in mexico now in mexico is beyond me, the LD(1500) are still made in St Louis.

Not sure why everyone bashes dodge tannies, they are no better or worse than ford or gm's offerings. This I've learned from first hand expeirience working in the industry.
However, any truck that is used to pull a trailer 24/7 or has big power will make a trans crap the bed.
My current truck makes huge power, 550hp/1100 ft/lbs at the rear wheels so I had a Goerend brothers trans built with billet shafts, flex plate, etc. I've done truck pulls, drag racing and a ton of hauling with this truck. Takes everything I throw at it.

 

[SuperNova]

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Here's a funny story about the "buy american" thing. My neighbor has a Harley and he had to buy some parts for it the other day. The parts came in little plastic "Harley Davidson" marked parts bags and they were marked "Made In Japan". My '05 Yamaha V-Star, on the other hand, has "Made In U.S.A." on it in several places. I showed him this and he hasn't ragged on my "Yamaharley" since then. At least I find it funny. and Tragic.

 

[JoLin]

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When I started shopping for a 3/4 ton truck in May, I stopped in first to talk to the mechanic who's been servicing my cars for the past 20 years

I asked him, which one? Chevy/GM, Ford, Dodge?

His reply:

"They all come in here needing to be fixed. Buy the one you like."

Nearly 3 months of searching until I literally stumbled across my Dodge 4x4- a 2003 Ram 2500 short bed, 42K original miles, one owner, showroom condition. It's got the SLT package with power everything, a Hemi, automatic, 4 doors and a color-matched Leer cap already on it. $14,999 with a new set of Pirelli Scorpions. I've got a couple thou miles on it now and it's fine.

If I'd been in the same "right place, right time" and the truck had been a Chevy or Ford, I would have made one of those deals instead.

The whole debate is, IMO, silly- and has been going on with no clear winner for as long as there have been automobiles. Hell, one of the nicest cars I ever owned was a 1969 AMC AMX. Wish I still had it.

 

[skargo]

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When I started shopping for a 3/4 ton truck in May, I stopped in first to talk to the mechanic who's been servicing my cars for the past 20 years

I asked him, which one? Chevy/GM, Ford, Dodge?

His reply:

"They all come in here needing to be fixed. Buy the one you like."

Nearly 3 months of searching until I literally stumbled across my Dodge 4x4- a 2003 Ram 2500 short bed, 42K original miles, one owner, showroom condition. It's got the SLT package with power everything, a Hemi, automatic, 4 doors and a color-matched Leer cap already on it. $14,999 with a new set of Pirelli Scorpions. I've got a couple thou miles on it now and it's fine.

If I'd been in the same "right place, right time" and the truck had been a Chevy or Ford, I would have made one of those deals instead.

The whole debate is, IMO, silly- and has been going on with no clear winner for as long as there have been automobiles. Hell, one of the nicest cars I ever owned was a 1969 AMC AMX. Wish I still had it.

Great post!

 

[reelfishin]

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The Toyota Tundra is made by Americans in the USA with 80% or more USA content. Where is the Fiat, Ford or Motors Liquidation Company trucks made?.... sure some are built here, but you better check the label to be sure! No need to check the label on my Tundra... it was built in the great state of Texas.

Here is some info on US content on some popular vehicles: (be sure to see the American content on the Ram...lol) Keep in mind this is US content, not North American content like there window sticker shows. http://http://www.zimbio.com/GM+Shutdown/articles/qZXJMyCGAKw/25+Vehicles+Less+American+Toyota+Tundra

The problem is that the profits don't stay here. The bottom line is that Toyota is a Japanese company, while Ford, Chevy and Dodge are American companies. While Toyota may employ a some US workers to build a portion of their vehicles here, where do you think the money ends up?

US auto makers still account for far more employees than any foreign maker here in the US, I feel those are the companies that should be supported. It goes much farther than just the those who build the vehicles too, there are thousands of companies and employees who built components and parts that are also supported by the sale of a US branded vehicle. Even in the case of the parts being made offshore, the profits still come home to the parent company based here in the USA.

Personally, I don't much care whether it's a Ford, Dodge, or Chevy, just so the brand is a US maker. I've owned a few Toyota trucks, the last two left me never wanting to own another.
I've worked rebuilding transmissions and in Dodge and Ford dealers for over 20 years, I've rebuilt far more Dodge transmissions than any other. Granted that in a shop, you really only see the bad ones but when more than half of all truck trans repairs are one brand, and there's fewer of that brand on the road, there's got to be a problem. The Dodge truck transmission has had issues since they went to a 4 speed back in the late 80's.

Personally I drive a Ford daily these days but do also own a Dodge van, (which came to me needing a transmission overhaul), and two Ford cars.
All automatic transmissions at some point need repair and overhaul, but the Dodge trans seems to fail at roughly half the miles of the other two brands.

 

[skargo]

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The problem is that the profits don't stay here. The bottom line is that Toyota is a Japanese company, while Ford, Chevy and Dodge are American companies. While Toyota may employ a some US workers to build a portion of their vehicles here, where do you think the money ends up?

US auto makers still account for far more employees than any foreign maker here in the US, I feel those are the companies that should be supported. It goes much farther than just the those who build the vehicles too, there are thousands of companies and employees who built components and parts that are also supported by the sale of a US branded vehicle. Even in the case of the parts being made offshore, the profits still come home to the parent company based here in the USA.

Personally, I don't much care whether it's a Ford, Dodge, or Chevy, just so the brand is a US maker. I've owned a few Toyota trucks, the last two left me never wanting to own another.
I've worked rebuilding transmissions and in Dodge and Ford dealers for over 20 years, I've rebuilt far more Dodge transmissions than any other. Granted that in a shop, you really only see the bad ones but when more than half of all truck trans repairs are one brand, and there's fewer of that brand on the road, there's got to be a problem. The Dodge truck transmission has had issues since they went to a 4 speed back in the late 80's.

Personally I drive a Ford daily these days but do also own a Dodge van, (which came to me needing a transmission overhaul), and two Ford cars.
All automatic transmissions at some point need repair and overhaul, but the Dodge trans seems to fail at roughly half the miles of the other two brands.

I disagree with 99.7% of this post.

Toyota, and GM, and Ford, And Chrysler are global companies. Toyota has 15 fricking assembly plants in the US, I think they employ more than just "some" workers. If they are built here, sold here, serviced here, etc, they support the economy, I am sick and tired of these flawes assumptions
And you are also wrong about Dodge truck transmissions as a whole, but believe that what you think is right, it's OK.

I bet your house is full of Chinese goods too ;(

I mean, look at this google fight
http://www.googlefight.com/index.ph...ion+problems&word2=Ford+transmission+problems

 

[diastiss]

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i guess i was too late putting in my two cents. i have a 2009 chevy, crew, 4x4 z71 with a 5.3. it tows my little boat effortlessly. it has upgraded tow 10k cap, with upgraded cooling and wheels, the works. it is my first and only truck purchase though. i get 20 mpg w/o tow, 14-15 in "tow mode". welp, that's all i got in TOPIC! LOL

 

[elkhunter338]

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Chevy/dodge/ford/toyota I wish the government would keep there hands out of it and let the car companies either fail or make it. As for emmissions the gov. has ruined things again for all car manufactures
Say good bye to all the good diesel pickups in the future.
These new diesels get worse fuel economy and have lots of emission junk to go wrong.
The highest milage diesels in a pickup in general seem to be the old 1989-1993ish dodge. 21+ on the hwy and no electric stuff to go wrong.
Dodge in general has a crummy body parts but ok drive train, which is not generally made by dodge. my dodge has a cummins engine, and the 5spd manual, transferr case, and rearends are not made by dodge.
My wifes ford had $10,000+ of warenty work done in less than 3yrs and it never towed a thing and she drove it like a grama.
I had a ford tauras that was horrible, did not like to run right and ford could not fix it.
All of them have trouble and some luck out and get a good one.

 

[642mx]

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The problem is that the profits don't stay here. The bottom line is that Toyota is a Japanese company, while Ford, Chevy and Dodge are American companies. While Toyota may employ a some US workers to build a portion of their vehicles here, where do you think the money ends up?

Who knows exactly where the money goes... I can tell you over 4 million has been donated to our community from Toyota. In September, they spent 1 BILLION dollars in advertising in the USA. oh... don't forget they have to pay employees and they pay taxes...

Where does the money go when you buy something from Fiat or Liquidation Motors?.... my guess is some union thug will get a chunk of it and thats reason enough for me not to buy one. Or maybe the money goes back to Mexico to pay there employee's?

US auto makers still account for far more employees than any foreign maker here in the US, I feel those are the companies that should be supported.

They are supported.... by our tax money!!!

 

[reelfishin]

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They are supported.... by our tax money!!!

They would have been in that position if it weren't for all those who choose to spend their money on foreign cars.

It also doesn't matter what percentage of any American car is foreign made or that those same companies are doing business overseas, the money still comes home to the parent company and benefits the American company.

No, my house is not full of Chinese products. If it can be bought made in the USA, that's what I will buy. If I can't afford to buy something US made, I'll do without it.

 

[SuperNova]

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No, my house is not full of Chinese products. If it can be bought made in the USA, that's what I will buy. If I can't afford to buy something US made, I'll do without it.

If you do the research to figure out what is actually made here by American companies, then that's a great, patriotic stand to take. The problem comes when figuring out where exactly the parts and components of a given item were made. You can't always trust the "Made in U.S.A." sticker. I could have an American company that imports parts for an item that I then assemble in an American factory. Sometimes it's tough to tell whom your money is benefitting more. Heck, if you buy gasoline for your car, do you know where that came from?

 

[642mx]

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They would have been in that position if it weren't for all those who choose to spend their money on foreign cars.

Thats crap... If they would've spent a little more time building a better vehicle maybe folks wouldn't have bought something "foreign".

Between over-paid workers, crappy product, and the UAW.... The domestics don't have a chance unless we keep throwing hard earned tax money at them. Hopefully our government will let free market runs its course for once...

It also doesn't matter what percentage of any American car is foreign made or that those same companies are doing business overseas, the money still comes home to the parent company and benefits the American company.

Thats right.... so they can keep building factories in Mexico and Korea....right? And shutting down factories in the US....right?

Guess which company is investing and creating jobs in the US right now?.... I'll help you, its Toyota.

 

[crackedglass]

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I can vouch for the Dodge trannies being crap, I've had four Dodge trucks, all 3500 4x2 models with the 46RE trans over the last 12 years, every one puked it's trans between 36,000 and 55,000 miles. The strange thing is that once they were rebuilt, they lasted just fine. The trans shop told me that they all had the same problem and Dodge never did a thing to correct it. It was something to do with the seals inside.

I actually tried a new Toyota between Dodge truck #3 and #4, but that was a sorry miserable mistake. It was a fully loaded Tundra 4x4. The trans died at 15,000 miles, then they said it was too new and they couldn't get parts, so two weeks later I finally got it back, then the motor died on the expressway, had to get towed, that took another two weeks, then the cd player and radio would turn off and on at will, the dealer never found the cause of that. The last straw after 8 months was the fuel mileage, which consistantly kept getting worse. It went from around 18mpg when new down to about 11mpg. That's even worse than my Dodge truck.
I finally bailed out and went back to a Dodge, which again, puked a trans after less than 2 years. I wanted a Ford at that time but couldn't make a deal for which I wouldn't lose my shirt in the Toyota.
None of these trucks ever towed anything larger than a small tinny or a 1500lb utility trailer.

I now drive a Ford, it's been fine so far. I still own the one Dodge, it's been 40,000 since it had the trans rebuilt. The Ford has over 165,000 and has never had any problems. It's better on gas than the Dodge but not as good as what I'm told the GM trucks get. Maybe next time I'll try a Chevy or GMC, but there's no way I'd buy another foreign p.o.s. again.