cobalt sales staff and kids

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I used to manage a power equipment dealership, and can tell you there is a huge range in behaviors of children. Some would hang on mom and dads legs, others would treat the equipment like a jungle gym. Most of the time people were decent enough to keep the kids in check, but others weren't.

You'd be surprised how much damage little johnny can do to a $10k lawnmowers finish with the grit on his shoes, or by using the spring loaded discharge chute as a trampoline, even forcing the controls of a zero turn while the pumps are idle.

That being said, there's ways to handle that sort of thing, "would you mind getting your kids to quit jumping on everything" isn't it. More often than not a simple, "I'm worried about them falling, there's nothing on there soft to hit" does the job just fine. Throw the ball in their court, using concern for their kids safety is a diplomatic way to kurtail a confrontation.

Another way that always worked was to talk to the kid, "hey what's your name?" "Which one in here do you think the coolest?..." " you can sit on one, if you promise to stay up there, that big red one in the corner is the coolest one we have, would you like to sit in it?" That kind of stuff. More often than not if you engaged them a little bit, kids would behave much better, and the parents would be at ease with the sale process. Your in sales for gods sake, use your skills..

My point is there's ways to deal with kids, and ways not to. In a showroom, banning them isn't the best way.
 
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Just thinking about when I bought my used sailboat . . . I had looked at the boat previously, but wanted the Admiral to see the boat as well. We happened to have not only our 2 kids, but my brothers 3 kids staying with us at the time. No choice but to pile everyone in the car and go look. So, sometimes you do not have a lot of choice to leave the kids at home.

Of course, I figured that the seller would probably not want a bunch of kids climbing all over his boat, but he was fine with that, so we let them loose :eek: . A few minutes later we shook hands on the deal.

Whether a dealer of private party seller, I guess you have to use your judgement based on the situation and prior experiences.
 

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Some people bring their kids thinking they can get a better deal. Reason being is to have the kids drive the sales person nuts.

If I were to purchase a new boat, part of my negotiating would be (after sea trials etc.) would have the kid check it out. For my situation today, it would be a "family" purchase and I would want the boat to be conducive to kids……15 years down the road, tubing, skiing, jumping etc. will not play a factor because the kid will be an adult - hopefully.
 

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or a Polka dance?.. do they have those anymore?

My dad is actually in a Polka band! Booked almost every weekend for almost a year out!

Anyway, I have two small children, and if I were to be in the market for a new boat now, I certainly wouldn't take them with going to a boat dealership. If anything, it would be a distraction for me and my wife. I would rather be looking at a boat than wrangling 2 three year olds.

If I were selling my boat, I certainly wouldn't want to have kids jumping around in it(other than my own). If my kids were to damage something, it's on me. It would really create an awkward situation if someone else's kids were to screw something up on something I was trying to sell.

Boating is a family activity for sure, but boat buying isn't.
 

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Sorry, but major assets purchases (boat/car/home) should not involve young children. It's not that some people don't have well-behaved children, it's that it really isn't the place to have them around. You are making a usually-significant financial decision and having children running around, or complaining is distracting to both you and the other party. That distraction may cause you to miss something that might have been a deal-breaker, or at the very least, a bargaining chip.

Obviously without having been at the Cobalt dealership to observe the OP's experience, it's difficult to condemn either side. However, as was mentioned, there are polite ways for the sales staff to persuade a customer to wrangle their little ones.
 

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according to the O/P all the guy did was keep an eye on the kid.

"..... they were more into watching kid than answering questions........"

I don't see the issue... If the salesman wasn't attentive enough to the O/P's questions, he could have called him out on it instead of complaining about the manufacturer on the internet. Something like "Hey I'm looking to buy a boat ... would you like to sell one?" would more than get the point across.

So the kid didn't do anything wrong and the salesman didn't complain about him...... WHERE'S the problem?????
 

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Perhaps the salesperson was trying to score some points by being attentive to the kids.
 

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I can't see the value in bringing a child to a car/boat/home purchase situation. This is not a emotional time and the distraction and possible annoyance would be horrible. Then there is the safety and liability and damages that could happen. I want every part of my brain focusing on the major purchase I'm about to make, not being distracted by anything. I guess I look at things in common sense ways not emotional ways. There is a time and place for everything, but often some feel the need to do the wrong thing and expect others or everyone else to just take it or deal with it. I wouldn't hesitate to ask a parent to better manage their little Johnny if they decided to make a boat buying experience a family function. They just need to be prepared to take it.
 

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Sometimes adults do adult things. Night out for Mom and Dad, making major purchase, etc............

If your looking, then take the kids, (look but no touch, works for mom and dad too). If your going to talk deal, leave the kids at home.

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How can you check the location, size, and piping of the bilge pump and keep an eye on the kids????

You get the idea, there is simply no way you can truly do you job of checking the boat out with kids in tow.
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Ayuh,.... While some kids are better behaved than others,...

Takin' Any kids Shoppin', for Anything, will bring out the worst that child has to offer,... :blue:
 

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At Boat Shows the snobby lot state 'take your shoes off before coming on board'. I walk past those stands.
Buyers (because that's what they are) can choose to bring their family members along if they wish and that is their prerogative. Personally I would hope that those buyers make an adult choice as to whether their family members can behave properly, but that shouldn't be the Seller's decision (not unless he doesn't want to sell anything). If you are buying a boat for the 'family', then all members of said family have influence. Whilst little Johnny may not be writing the check, he can influence Mom who may not be as on board as Dad. If you want to sell, you do what it takes.
On a slightly different tack, a friend of mine who became probably one of the largets Nissan Dealers in the UK and stinking rich, went down to the London Motor Show. He got to the Lamborghini stand and wanted to go look at and sit in the cars. The Security Guard wouldn't let him on the stand. He said he was interested and the guy said, you will have to get a Salesman. My friend replied you get me one. The guard huffed and puffed and stood firm my friend had to get his own Salesman. He did and bought a Lambo at the Show. The Security Guard. Part of the deal was the guy was fired! That is how to p***s of your customers.
It is all about respect.

Wow, I personally find an awful lot wrong with your post. While many dealers don't require it, I ALWAYS take my shoes off when going on a display boat. You do understand that that boat has to be sold eventually, and the dealer has to take the hit for scratches and scuffs in the gelcoat? It isn't my boat, and I respect that.

Second, I really have to applaud your friend for showing everybody exactly how important he is by having the Security Guard, who was ordered not to let anyone in the cars, fired for doing his job.
A real classy move. :rolleyes:
 

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there's another point also... that boat doesn't belong to the shopper or the salesman and it is only temporarily in the possession of the dealership....

You go to a dealership and the salesman encourages you to let your kids explore and play saying we'll clean later..... He really makes you and your clan feel at home.... You think this great. ..... Now you finally make a choice and plunk down $50,000 on a Minty fresh never touched brand spankin new dream machine of a boat...... As you are taking delivery you notice and point out various scuffs and stains and maybe a couple broken light fixtures and on top of that there are what look to be boogers smeared on the wall.... He says I suppose someone's kids did that.... Remember we let em play on our boats while customers shop.....

You're still perfectly fine with it right? after all you can clean up later...... OR maybe are you pissed and expect the dealership to absorb the costs of repair or even refuse that boat and demand another one that wasn't displayed. Imagine the nerve of those people who made no attempt to protect your new boat from the public and then expect YOU to pay full price for what amounts to a used boat!
 
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Wow, I personally find an awful lot wrong with your post. While many dealers don't require it, I ALWAYS take my shoes off when going on a display boat. You do understand that that boat has to be sold eventually, and the dealer has to take the hit for scratches and scuffs in the gelcoat? It isn't my boat, and I respect that.

Second, I really have to applaud your friend for showing everybody exactly how important he is by having the Security Guard, who was ordered not to let anyone in the cars, fired for doing his job.
A real classy move. :rolleyes:

Agree.....

Further I remove my shoes or at least offer to remove them before boarding ANY boat save maybe for a very basic fishing boat without floors.
 

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Different strokes for different folks. Because I am gone during the week mostly, I have the weekends with my family. I agree with the posts about not bringing your kids to major purchases, however sometimes you don't have a choice.

My Wife (Admiral) would have my head if she and the little one wanted to come along to see what I was spending a shinny penny on, and I said, "NO". Would they need to be there while I'm doing the transaction that usually takes hours, no…..however if I "test the waters", and she's having none of it, I'll just be happy to be there! The sales person is just going to have to deal with it.
 

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Around here lately I have noticed a lot of signs that state....lost children will be returned with a free puppy.... That tells me it is becoming a problem all over an business are getting tired of baby sitting.
 

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Some people bring their kids thinking they can get a better deal. Reason being is to have the kids drive the sales person nuts.

Sort of reminds me of the time we were buying a new tow vehicle (SUV) . . . at a very tense moment in the price negotiations my youngest decided to spill hot chocolate all over the sales person's desk. Things moved along after that. . . :)
 

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Around here lately I have noticed a lot of signs that state....lost children will be returned with a free puppy.... That tells me it is becoming a problem all over an business are getting tired of baby sitting.

Ayuh,..... I Like that,... ;) :D :lol:
 

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Reason being is to have the kids drive the sales person nuts
That's both sadistic and brilliant at the same time. Whether it would result in a lower selling price I have my doubts. I'd charge ya double ...
 
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