comparing Outboard to inboard boats

[Chip73]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Good boat Chip73 - might want to make sure you keep it, you'll never find another one that can come close to what you claim!

I have a 16' Mark Twain with a 120 Hp 3.0 - it gets between 4 and 5 mpg (averaged over a days use) in the real world just like everyone (except yours!) elses 3.0. Never tried tubing or wakeboarding behind it (use the other boat for that) but I would imagine that it would not help the gas mileage.

I guess I am lucky or your boat is not the standard. Either way I am doing pretty good with my gas mileage. I know I can put 6 gallons in, boat 11 miles to the beach, tube with the kids for a few hours and ride back, all on 6 gallons. Neigh say or not, those are the facts. Not too hard to accomplish. The magazine is claiming 6MPG, if I am pulling 7-8 MPG it is easy to accomplish. My kids do not weigh 300 LBS.

 

[45Auto]

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Want to make some money off your "facts"?

I'll give you 10 to 1 odds that you can't run for 11 miles, pull a tube at least 15 MPH for 2 hours, then run another 11 miles on 6 gallons of gas. I'm willing to put up $10,000 if you'll put up $1,000 into an escrow account, winner takes home the entire amount.

I'll fly to where ever you are, buy a portable tank, we'll put 6 gallons in it, and if you do what you say then you just made $10,000.

Of course, that means that you'll have to AVERAGE 8.7 MPG (52 miles/6 gallons = 8.7). I don't think you can do it, and I'm more than willing to put my money where my mouth is! I figure I can cover my air fare and come out ahead a few hundred bucks!

 

[180shabah]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

I'll fly to where ever you are, buy a portable tank, we'll put 6 gallons in it, and if you do what you say then you just made $10,000.

Can this be a group outing

 

[180shabah]

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I guess I am lucky or your boat is not the standard. Either way I am doing pretty good with my gas mileage. I know I can put 6 gallons in, boat 11 miles to the beach, tube with the kids for a few hours and ride back, all on 6 gallons. Neigh say or not, those are the facts. Not too hard to accomplish. The magazine is claiming 6MPG, if I am pulling 7-8 MPG it is easy to accomplish. My kids do not weigh 300 LBS.

Actually you got that backwards - Test numbers tend to be optimistic - usually near perfect conditions, 1/4 - 1/3 tank of fuel, no passengers and minimal gear(flowscan and a GPS). To do better, for lack of a better term, is pure fantasy.

Now lets back up a little - no doubt you put $20 in the tank. Did you do this before ar after your outing. If before, was the tank completely full after the $20 was added? If so, did you completely fill the tank afterwards? If so, how much gas did it take to REFILL the tank? I doubt you truely know how much fuel you used that day. You only know how much you added, BEFORE, you started.

Sounds like your "fueling program" is similar to mine. Dump some gas in, go do your thing, add some more before next trip, maybe. I'll admit it, I honestly couldn't tell you the actual fuel usage of my boat, but I do know that the way we use the boat, normally, a tank(29 gals) can last us several(3-4) weeks. And the only time this boat hits a gas station is holiday weekends. We top off before it gets dunked in preparation for 2-3 days of tubing, skiing, etc, which will suck the tank dry in a day or two.

 

[ilmostro99]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Can this be a group outing

I'll volunteer to ride the tube for the 2 hours.
Erik

 

[bhammer]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Want to make some money off your "facts"?

I'll give you 10 to 1 odds that you can't run for 11 miles, pull a tube at least 15 MPH for 2 hours, then run another 11 miles on 6 gallons of gas. I'm willing to put up $10,000 if you'll put up $1,000 into an escrow account, winner takes home the entire amount.

I'll fly to where ever you are, buy a portable tank, we'll put 6 gallons in it, and if you do what you say then you just made $10,000.

Of course, that means that you'll have to AVERAGE 8.7 MPG (52 miles/6 gallons = 8.7). I don't think you can do it, and I'm more than willing to put my money where my mouth is! I figure I can cover my air fare and come out ahead a few hundred bucks!

Boy, I see this one getting locked.

I agree with your point and I'll to it. If all are in agreement, I will use my 2+ million American miles to fly you there and back. Heck, I'd even go in for a first class ride if you divy up the earnings.

 

[Chip73]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Want to make some money off your "facts"?

I'll give you 10 to 1 odds that you can't run for 11 miles, pull a tube at least 15 MPH for 2 hours, then run another 11 miles on 6 gallons of gas. I'm willing to put up $10,000 if you'll put up $1,000 into an escrow account, winner takes home the entire amount.

I'll fly to where ever you are, buy a portable tank, we'll put 6 gallons in it, and if you do what you say then you just made $10,000.

Of course, that means that you'll have to AVERAGE 8.7 MPG (52 miles/6 gallons = 8.7). I don't think you can do it, and I'm more than willing to put my money where my mouth is! I figure I can cover my air fare and come out ahead a few hundred bucks!

I hope you realize how stupid you sound. Does your mother know you are using her computer? Honestly are you 6 years old. I know what the boat does, regardless if you agree or not, your opinion is irrelevant. Maybe you need to sink some of your disposable income you claim to have into your boat and get a tune-up or maybe your money back. I attached a picture for you.

 

[45Auto]

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Sounds good to me! Somebody needs to make sure to bring some extra gas so we can make it back though ....................

 

[45Auto]

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I hope you realize how stupid you sound

I'm not the one claiming my boat gets over 9 MPG pulling a tube. Willing to put your money where your mouth is?

 

[Chip73]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

I'm not the one claiming my boat gets over 9 MPG pulling a tube. Willing to put your money where your mouth is?

I will take you on, you will need a ticket to Savannah Georgia. Let me know when you get here. Of course I think you are all talk.

 

[marine4003]

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Lady's...Lady's..Lady's,: really? who cares,the man claims his boat gets that kind of mileage,it is possible,consider the difference between the same motor assembled differently can make a big difference....better tolerances.. rings..smoother bore ect can make a huge difference in fuel consumption...and i know,i own a construction company but my hobby is Off Shore Racing..as in APBA Racing,i have hundreds of hours building 800-1200 HP motors,and Yes,the same C.I motor weather it be I/O or outboard can show big differences in both HP and Fuel Economy,and i think this thread was about I/O compared to Outboard motors....For me its I/O bigger the better..

 

[Chip73]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Lady's...Lady's..Lady's,: really? who cares,the man claims his boat gets that kind of mileage,it is possible,consider the difference between the same motor assembled differently can make a big difference....better tolerances.. rings..smoother bore ect can make a huge difference in fuel consumption...and i know,i own a construction company but my hobby is Off Shore Racing..as in APBA Racing,i have hundreds of hours building 800-1200 HP motors,and Yes,the same C.I motor weather it be I/O or outboard can show big differences in both HP and Fuel Economy,and i think this thread was about I/O compared to Outboard motors....For me its I/O bigger the better..

Are you mocking me good sir

 

[Wassachu]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

To clarify: An Inboard is a boat with the motor, usually midships, driving a prop below the keel. Usually used for water sports, ski boats etc. An inboard/outboard or In/Out is a boat with a motor in the boat, at the stern, connected to an outdrive through the transom. An Outboard is a boat that has a motor hung on the transom either directly or with what's called a C Bracket which extends aft of the transom.

With the boats your talking about your talking an In/Out vs an Outboard. In/Outs take up more room in the boat. When the boat is in the water, the outdrive is always in the water. So for long terms in the water this is a consideration. The 4.3L is an excellent motor for that boat. Some boats of that size may come with small 4 cylinder motors but for water sports the 4.3L V6 is better. The 4.3L is not a gas thirsty motor. As for Outboards, The motor is usually completely out of the water when raised which is great for long terms in the water when not in use. Comparing In/Outs to Outboards is difficult because Outboards come in many Horsepowers and brands. These boats were all sold originally with Force Outboards. Not known as a good motor and always thirsty.

Boat motors are not very efficient. Horsepower/speed is not like in a car. There is a lot of power lost between the motor and prop or the motion in the water. ALWAYS take a boat for a ride before buying and if your into watersports ask to see how it performs with a skier behind you. That may be difficult do to liability but it's worth the ask.

Good luck

 

[marine4003]

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Are you mocking me good sir

Naaaaa

 

[45Auto]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Hi Chip,

I've set up my side of the transaction in Safefunds (http://www.safefunds.com/). They're an escrow service we've used several times in the last few years. Once you join (no cost to join, completing the transaction will cost $26 - I'll pay that) and get a username you can set up your side and we can finalize the agreement. Let me know if that's satisfactory or if you have another way you'd prefer to work it.

Here's how I set up my side with the $10,000:
_______________________________

Seller to provide Discovery 175 w/ 3.0 & tube for test purposes only. No sale of any physical assets is included. Transaction is for demonstration only.

Buyer to provide 6 gallons of gas in a new boat fuel tank. Gas brand and grade to be chosen by Seller and purchased by Buyer in presence of the Seller.

1 independent witness to be present.

Buyer to provide GPS unit capable of recording track length and speed.

1) Seller will perform the following actions in the presence of Buyer using
ONLY the six gallons of gasoline provided by the Buyer:

2) Navigate boat 11 miles as recorded by GPS.

3) Tow tube for 2 hours at 15 MPH minimum as recorded by GPS.

4) Navigate boat 11 miles as recorded by GPS

Completion of 1 thru 4 will release funds to Seller

If 1 thru 4 are NOT completed on 6 gallons of gas provided by the Buyer then transaction is VOID and all funds will be released to Buyer.
_______________________________

You will need to set up a similar but opposite transaction for your $1000. Obviously Seller and Buyer will be reversed in your case.

This should be interesting!!

 

[Chip73]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

Hi Chip,

I've set up my side of the transaction in Safefunds (http://www.safefunds.com/). They're an escrow service we've used several times in the last few years. Once you join (no cost to join, completing the transaction will cost $26 - I'll pay that) and get a username you can set up your side and we can finalize the agreement. Let me know if that's satisfactory or if you have another way you'd prefer to work it.

Here's how I set up my side with the $10,000:
_______________________________

Seller to provide Discovery 175 w/ 3.0 & tube for test purposes only. No sale of any physical assets is included. Transaction is for demonstration only.

Buyer to provide 6 gallons of gas in a new boat fuel tank. Gas brand and grade to be chosen by Seller and purchased by Buyer in presence of the Seller.

1 independent witness to be present.

Buyer to provide GPS unit capable of recording track length and speed.

1) Seller will perform the following actions in the presence of Buyer using
ONLY the six gallons of gasoline provided by the Buyer:

2) Navigate boat 11 miles as recorded by GPS.

3) Tow tube for 2 hours at 15 MPH minimum as recorded by GPS.

4) Navigate boat 11 miles as recorded by GPS

Completion of 1 thru 4 will release funds to Seller

If 1 thru 4 are NOT completed on 6 gallons of gas provided by the Buyer then transaction is VOID and all funds will be released to Buyer.
_______________________________

You will need to set up a similar but opposite transaction for your $1000. Obviously Seller and Buyer will be reversed in your case.

This should be interesting!!

First I will need your social security number and all other information to confirm you are who you say you are, then I will need proof you purchased a plane ticket to show you intend to come here, no point wasting my time, then I will need you to deposit the 10K to my bank for safe keeping. Once complete we can negotiate. I do not make a habit of visiting websites and giving my personal information and money because a perfect stranger says it is safe, sounds dumb doesn't it. Too easy to throw out ridiculous bets as you did. Bottom line my boat does what I am saying it does. Like it or not, it is pretty sweet and I have accomplished the above tasks three weeks running so I am not crazy, it is pretty awesome in fact, maybe take some of your money you want to throw away and upgrade.

 

[180shabah]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

First I will need your social security number and all other information to confirm you are who you say you are, then I will need proof you purchased a plane ticket to show you intend to come here, no point wasting my time, then I will need you to deposit the 10K to my bank for safe keeping. Once complete we can negotiate. I do not make a habit of visiting websites and giving my personal information and money because a perfect stranger says it is safe, sounds dumb doesn't it. Too easy to throw out ridiculous bets as you did. Bottom line my boat does what I am saying it does. Like it or not, it is pretty sweet and I have accomplished the above tasks three weeks running so I am not crazy, it is pretty awesome in fact, don't hate.

 

[Chip73]

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Not as lame as your avatar, thats cute, your mom pick it out?

 

[45Auto]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

How did we know this would happen???

 

[Andy in NY]

Re: comparing Outboard to inboard boats

*volunteers to be independant witness*