Democrates in violation of Logan Act

[crunch]

Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson traveled to Syria and met with its president, Bashar Assad, so did John Kerry. This is a clear violation of the Logan Act, which carries a possible prison sentence of up to 3 years.

This is aiding and giving comfort to the enemy. Iran, Syria, and terrorist world wide see this as a wedge the Democrats have given them to split this countries resolve and to negate the power of The Presidency of the United States.... dare we call it Treason?

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Treason?
This is aiding and giving comfort to the enemy
Why? Did Assad feed them dinner & tuck them in at night?
He's guilty by Allah!
Did I mention that Dubya is a dummy today?
He has made a joke of the office.....
760 days to go 'til Hillary!

 

[Boomyal]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

They don't care CBC. It does not meet their agenda for the moment so any law does not count. Besides anything that they think will diminish Bush, they will do.

They want power at any cost, then they will continue to marginalize the US once they get it.

 

[Plainsman]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Treason?
This is aiding and giving comfort to the enemy
Why? Did Assad feed them dinner & tuck them in at night?
He's guilty by Allah!
Did I mention that Dubya is a dummy today?
He has made a joke of the office.....
760 days to go 'til Hillary!

Well if your for hillary, then your for staying the course haut. How many times did bill cheat on her, but she refuses to change course? She's staying the course, one after another by bill, she's staying the course.. If she can't see that....my God we are in trouble.

And how do you know haut what they talked about over there haut? Could have been treason, or not.

 

[crunch]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

They want power at any cost.

I wonder how many Americans will die because of that power quest?

I can understand disagreeing with our Counties Foreign Policy, but to intentionally undermine it to their own benefit, and of the enemy surpasses all common sense and does border on treason.

Haut, drag your head out of the sand.... "dummy" probably has you by 20 points, and from your posts would make you look like a fool in open debate.

 

[crunch]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Treason?
This is aiding and giving comfort to the enemy
Why? Did Assad feed them dinner & tuck them in at night?
He's guilty by Allah!
Did I mention that Dubya is a dummy today?
He has made a joke of the office.....
760 days to go 'til Hillary!

Well if your for hillary, then your for staying the course haut. How many times did bill cheat on her, but she refuses to change course? She's staying the course, one after another by bill, she's staying the course.. If she can't see that....my God we are in trouble.

And how do you know haut what they talked about over there haut? Could have been treason, or not.

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

The "visits" were at least violations of our Constitution, via the Logan Act.

Our Constitution places Foreign Policy completely, and only in the hands of our President... one voice, one stance.

These nit-wits went against US policy, US Constitutional Law, and against the State Dept. just to fuel their own agenda.... they should be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted.... then 3 years in Club Fed.

As for Treason, just undercutting our foreign policy gives aid and comfort to the enemy.... imagine Jane Fonda, with Congressional Credentials.

 

[imported_Curmudgeon]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

imagine Jane Fonda, with Congressional Credentials.

That's easy .. John Kerry or Hillary Clinton. John Edwards might qualify, but he didn't attend enough Senate sessions to qualify for "credentials" (just the retirement bennies). :^

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Why not go? The rules only apply to the rest of us.

 

[crunch]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Why not go? The rules only apply to the rest of us.

A true Liberal Mantra, our end justifies their means.

 

[Skinnywater]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

A true Liberal Mantra, our end justifies their means.

Ain't that right, I'm still waiting for US to find those weapons grade aluminum tubes, mobile chemical weapon labs and stockpiles of WMD's.

 

[mrbscott19]

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I wonder how many Americans will die because of that power quest?

How many already have? I know.....

 

[CJY]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

"I wonder how many Americans will die because of that power quest? "

Me too. Those numbers are added to the death toll number daily.

 

[CJY]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

You beat me to it mrb.8)

 

[WillyBWright]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

"To Communicate with our adversaries is to promote Understanding. To promote Understanding is to foster Peace. To promote Non-Communication and perpetuate Misunderstanding is to foster War. To foster War because we refuse to simply communicate ... THAT's Treason."
WBW 12/22/06

To those who choose to turn a deaf ear to their enemy, woe. I promise you that they hear us, which gives them the advantage. Know your enemy or die in ignorance. Communication is not synomanous with Agreement. Those that believe that Communication equals Appeasment are Ignorant. Especially those that don't understand the concepts of Disagreement and Debate. ( Run that by your buddy Rush and watch his head explode. )

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Crunch, your statements could be considered slander or libel, because you have no idea what was discussed.....
They could have been trading recipes for baklava for all you know......d

 

[crunch]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Crunch, your statements could be considered slander or libel, because you have no idea what was discussed.....
They could have been trading recipes for baklava for all you know......

None of you guys seem to get it.... read this carefully:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

They were specifically told by The President, and The State Dept. not to go to Syria... They went any way. That is a Crime under The Logan Act. It doesn't matter what was discussed, the fact that they went is, by its self, a crime.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

If the trip was paid for with taxpayer money, which I am sure it was, it MUST be for relavant state business. I can't imagine a liberal taking a trip on the peoples dime for personal reasons. In reality I can't imagine a politician of either side screwin the public for their own benefit. :'(

BTW doesn't any of you liberals want to talk about the separation of powers? Or only when it is convenient?

 

[JasonJ]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

In the words of my righty buddies, show me a link. Show me how their corespondance was in any was undermining our policy. Show me, with detailed transcripts, how they violated the Logan act. Anything but that is, say it with me, SPECULATION, which doesn't quite hold up in that court of law you so vehemiently want them strung up in. IF they did in fact violate this Logan act, then they should face the appropriate punishment.

So tell me, how many knots you running that kicker...

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

Don't need to JasonJ, read the logan act again. Directly or indirectly. We currently don't have direct relations with Iran or Syria as far as I know. I could be wrong on the relations issues but that is all this would take.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Democrates in violation of Logan Act

with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States

Again, you don't know what they talked about.......
If we are not at war or boycotting a specific country, I'm not sure 'Duh'bya can bar someone from going there....
Although I'm sure 'King George' would like to.....JK