Do you let your dogs or dog run loose?

[beerrun]

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SBN- Butch looks great! Glad to see he is doing so well.
Wildanimal- as far as people sticking thier hand out to be sniffed, its not always a great idea. Animal control officers probably know that. Pulling back a bloody stump is probably no fun.I tend to discourage people from doing that with my dog.
Anyway, even though we have been around this bush before I just had to get my 2 cents in. This is a touchy subject for me. If your dog leaves your property he/she should be on a leash. If you feel the dog doesnt need a leash, he's that well behaved,then a leash should not bother him anyway. If your dog is trained to stay on your property and I mean REALLY trained, not just while you're watching, then running loose should not be a problem. Posting "Beware of Dog" signs is a good idea. Regardless- Your dog and what he does is your responsibility.If you are willing to accept what your dog does while you have no idea where he is and willing to pay for it/ live with it thats totally up to you. But I am so tired of reading stories about kids being mauled and owners saying " But he's always been such a good dog". How can you know that if you don't know where he is half the time! If you cannot or will not take the time to train your dog or restrain him, don't have one much less three. If your dog went on someone elses property, whether its a relative or not, and started fighting with thier dog, they have every right to call animal control. Calling the sherriff may have been a little extreme but you're lucky you still have the dog. If nobody has called you and asked you to pay thier vet bills from the dog fight, you should be thanking them for being such understanding neighbors.
I am very proud to say that after working with my dog for a couple years now, one of the things he has learned is to stay in the back yard. You cannot drag him into the front yard unless you tell him we are going for a walk and his leash is on. He also knows sit, stay, heel, watch the truck, high five, flying kisses, put your toys away, party on, beg, don't beg, pick a hand, get your coat, get your leash, get the ball, find the kitty, go to your bed, and leave the kids alone. By the way, He is loving all this snow.

 

[Twidget]

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Beerrun pretty much hit it on the head.

Your dog is your responsibility, period.
Your property is your property, keep the dog on your property.

Neighbors property is the neighbors property.(no matter how big a jerk he is)

I realize you love your pets, so maybe it is time to put up a fence. For their protection as well as yours.

I dont mean to sound harsh, but I lost a dog to a "good" dog that came into my yard and killed her. I have no patience for loose dogs these days.

 

[MikDee]

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I am a dog person, but presently not a dog owner. I'm also in total agreement with beerun, and I'm totally impressed that he has taught his dog well, with so many commands. When I was a kid, many yrs ago in the country, it was a whole different world then, I used to let my dog (a mutt) that looked like the RCA dog, but a bit bigger, run free,,, he was a good dog, and the neighborhood knew him, & liked him, but I've grown up, & got wiser, plus things have changed nowadays, if I had a dog now I'd have to train him well to stay on my property, like beerun.

 

[i386]

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I built them a nice kennel a couple years ago. This summer we installed an invisible fence type system. After a few weeks of training they didn't leave the yard much. Now they're trained really well. It doesn't matter what sort of distraction is on the other side of the fence. They don't cross the line. Sometimes they get their collar hung on something and it comes off but they still don't leave. They come in at night to sleep when it's cold. Much happier dogs now that they can roam free. The get a beep before they get shocked and they react to the beep very well. I don't think either of the two dogs got shocked more than a few times each during the training.

 

[wildmaninal]

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Personally I'm about ready to knock the idiot out that called the darn sheriff's deputies. I have pretty much narrowed it down to my idiot relative as I mentioned before but I can't go over there and confront him in a fighting mood even though I have not been in a fight sense elementary school. With fused ankle it wouldn't take much for somebody to take me down or step on my bad foot and push me down then I risk amputation.

Anyhow nothing that I big stick can't handle. He has lied to his own mother about how he handle the situation about the bush hog incident mentioned earlier so that shows you what kind of person he is. Not only has he lied to his mother but he has also lied to get his home he told them that he was self employed when he was never self employed.

ONCE AGAIN THE ONLY DOG FIGHT I KNOW OF WAS ON OUR LAND, THE PERSON I BELIEVE THAT TURNED THIS INCIDENT IN HAS TURNED THIS STORY AROUND ESPECIALLY WHEN HE LETS ALL 6 DOGS OF HIS RUN LOOSE AND AS MENTIONED THOSE DOGS HAVE CAME ON TO OUR YARD SEVERAL TIMES.

, I know that the 1 neighbor across the road owns a bunch of small dogs, most of them stay in the house, a couple of them stay in a pin out back. The other neighbor behind him (his father) they have a dog that is an inside outside dog and it runs loose. I've already talked to him and he said there hasn't been any trouble with my dogs around there place. The neighbor just down the road from them is an inside or pinned up dog, the neighbor next to them I don't recall them ever owning a dog. The neighbor that lives behind them owns a dog and it is an inside outside dog that runs loose. The neighbor across the road from him doesn't own a dog. The neighbor between the other just mentioned and I is the idiot that has the 6 dogs and the culprit in the mater. The others that live out back of them one doesn't own a dog, the other home owns 2 vicious dogs that are pinned up. The other behind them own a viscous dog that they keep pinned up sometimes but do let loose on occasions. The neighbors behind them one raises Great Peremyse and other animals. The other neighbors near them have a dog that is an inside outside dog that runs loose. Then the neighbor to the left of use as we step out the door doesn't own a dog. I can keep going but.

SO WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK CALLED THE LAW? ALL of these are relatives by the way. The other's beside the idiot we have been getting along with.

 

[beerrun]

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It doesn't matter which one called. Keep your dogs on your property and you will not have a problem. You created this problem, not them. If thier dogs come on your property call animal control. Thats what they're there for. Stop trying to make other people responsible for your dogs running loose. Sorry, but I get a little uppity about this subject. My dog was a rescue dog that somebody discarded and abandoned because he needed surgery. He was never socialized or trained and now I have shelled out alot of time and $$ fixing what they neglected to do. Money and time well spent, my dog is my shadow, but it never should have happened. Leave your neighbors alone and fix your own problem.

 

[wildmaninal]

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It doesn't matter which one called. Keep your dogs on your property and you will not have a problem. You created this problem, not them. If thier dogs come on your property call animal control. Thats what they're there for. Stop trying to make other people responsible for your dogs running loose. Sorry, but I get a little uppity about this subject. My dog was a rescue dog that somebody discarded and abandoned because he needed surgery. He was never socialized or trained and now I have shelled out alot of time and $$ fixing what they neglected to do. Money and time well spent, my dog is my shadow, but it never should have happened. Leave your neighbors alone and fix your own problem.

THE DOG FIGHT OCCURRED ON MY PROPERTY MY FRIEND AND THAT IS THAT. EVEN MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE ROAD RECALLED HEARING THE FIGHT. I EVEN TOLD THE DEPUTIES AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL THAT THERE WAS A FIGHT ON OUR LAND. EVEN THOUGH I DID SAY THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO's DOG WAS INVOLVED IN THE FIGHT IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUSLY IT WAS ONE OF MY DOGS AND THE IDIOT NEIGHBORS DOG. OR THIS STRAY PITBULL THAT COMES AROUND EVERY NIGHT THAT BELONGS A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. I WAS SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH HAVING A SMOKE WHEN I HEARD THE FIGHT, BECAUSE I DON'T SMOKE IN THE HOUSE. THE POS RELATIVE HAS LIED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS IN THE PAST AND I'M SURE THAT HE LIED ABOUT THE FIGHT. I WILL FIND THE TRUTH IN ALL OF THIS WHEN I CALM DOWN, UNTIL THEN I JUST HOPE MY FATHER DOESN'T GET A HOLD OF THE RELATIVE. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS IN YEARS BETWEEN OUR FAMILY UNTIL THIS RELATIVE MOVED BACK UP TO THIS AREA AND THIS INCLUDES COMPLAINTS ABOUT OUR DOGS. IF ANYTHING HIS DOGS SHOULD KEEP OFF OF OUR LAND.

 

[mikeandronda]

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wildanimal, you seem like a pretty decent guy but the fact is whether or not his dogs come in your yard and yours in his, your both wrong. But if he calls the cops your in trouble.......A loose dog is a crime in most places.

 

[Nandy]

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Wildmaninal, please don't take this wrong. I have taken to like your online persona a lot. I'm sure I would like the real person too. But, not trying to stir this up, if you don't know where you dogs were a 100 percent of the time then you don't know if it was then 2 fights. One in our yard, one in the other yard. I have read many time how it looks that you just want to get this over with. I would suggest that if whoever complained is not taking legal action against you then just leave it at that. Sounds like the sheriff and animal control were there just to advise you something happen with your pet and to be mindful of them. If nothing else happens then leave it at that, make sure your dogs are in your property and if the other party's dogs gets in your property then follow up appropriately. It is obvious to me that if you or your dad go there it will just be a confrontation. I can't really see it going any other way. Good luck...

 

[mikeandronda]

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Good post Nandy.....Its not worth the trouble you or your Dad could get into and the headache that would surly follows for years after.....

 

[beerrun]

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Well

Apparently one of our dogs had gotten into a fight with someone else's smaller dog, and supposedly was threatening the dog's owner on their property also.

By the way this lady talked it occurred on someone else's property and it happened last night.

I know our dogs were in at one point last night but I was going to argue the point because there is a possibility that somebody let the dogs out.

The sheriff's deputy said "at worst that the people could shoot the dog or press charges"

There is a relative that owns about 5 or 6 dogs that run loose and they do come over on our land and have the nerve to bark at us on our own property.

What precautions should I take, if any?

I am not trying to start a fight here. From what I read in the original post, this is what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong-
1) The animal control officer got a report that your dog was on somebody elses property fighting with thier dog and threatening the owner.
2) Again, she insinuated that a skirmish had occured on somebody elses property.
3) You know your dogs were in at one point but not sure about all night.
4) The deputy said they could have been shot or charges could be brought against you.
5) The neighbors dogs have the nerve to bark at you on your own property.
6) You asked for input as far as what precautions could be taken.

SO- from what I understood your original post to suggest, this is what I had deduced:
1) A neighbor, animal control and the sherrifs office are all suggesting that you keep your dogs on your own property for your dogs sake, the neighbors dogs sake, your neighbors sake and your own sake.
2) You are not sure of your dogs wherabouts for the entire night so you cannot say that the altercation could not have occured. If the dogs were out all night could there not have been more than one fight?
Oh- I forgot to quote this part but-3) You heard dogs fighting on your own property the same night. So fighting with other dogs is not beyond postulation.
4) The neighbors dogs should know where property lines are and they should know and understand the concept of property ownership and behave accordingly.
5) As far as available precautions, You could keep your dogs on your own property. As far as the neighbor keeping his dogs on his land, I agree whole heartedly, he most definitely should. The dogs should remain on the respective owners properties.
I am not trying to tear you up here, but it seems as if you asked for suggestions and didnt like the answers. Fighting with the neighbors will only make matters worse.
BTW- If there is a dog that belongs a mile down the road, he is not a stray.If the dog is on your property every night maybe you should go and talk to that owner, seeing as that is the courtesy you had wished had been extended to you.

 

[Manipulator]

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Our pooch stays on a leash when outside, he is an indoor outdoor dog. Not a vicious pooch at all. He is on the leash even if I'm outside as he will run off and I'm concerned he will get hit by a car. Last dog we had this happened to. Cost me about $2000 in Vet charges to save him and he ended up dying anyway.

Yes, it pisses me off when people let their dog roam. My neighbor has a German Shepard that "is trained never to leave the yard". Well that is what the neighbor says. Yeah right, I almost got mauled putting this SOB in a headlock as he was attempting to kill a mans poodle who was just out for a walk. I just got a dog at the pound a month ago and the very first time I came home with him this damn Shepard came flying around the corner and into my yard in attack mode. I had to run this dog in the house. I had a lil talk with the neighbor, so far he has kept his dog on a leash. I have a M18 Taser and he'll ride the lightening if he ventures in my yard again. While incapacitated, I'll give him another jolt in the nutz so he remembers that coming in my yard is a bad idea. I've got little kids too and I just don't trust this dog.

One thing that pisses me off is people who let there dog crap in your yard and don't clean it up! Whenever I walk my dog I aways bring 2-3 plastic bags to clean up my dogs mess. I think next time that happens I will do a Jim Carey from Me, Myself and Irene where he goes next door and does a dump in the neighbors yard.

 

[Nandy]

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Our pooch stays on a leash when outside, he is an indoor outdoor dog. Not a vicious pooch at all. He is on the leash even if I'm outside as he will run off and I'm concerned he will get hit by a car. Last dog we had this happened to. Cost me about $2000 in Vet charges to save him and he ended up dying anyway.

Yes, it pisses me off when people let their dog roam. My neighbor has a German Shepard that "is trained never to leave the yard". Well that is what the neighbor says. Yeah right, I almost got mauled putting this SOB in a headlock as he was attempting to kill a mans poodle who was just out for a walk. I just got a dog at the pound a month ago and the very first time I came home with him this damn Shepard came flying around the corner and into my yard in attack mode. I had to run this dog in the house. I had a lil talk with the neighbor, so far he has kept his dog on a leash. I have a M18 Taser and he'll ride the lightening if he ventures in my yard again. While incapacitated, I'll give him another jolt in the nutz so he remembers that coming in my yard is a bad idea. I've got little kids too and I just don't trust this dog.

One thing that pisses me off is people who let there dog crap in your yard and don't clean it up! Whenever I walk my dog I aways bring 2-3 plastic bags to clean up my dogs mess. I think next time that happens I will do a Jim Carey from Me, Myself and Irene where he goes next door and does a dump in the neighbors yard.

Yer killing me here man! lol!!!!!

 

[wildmaninal]

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I'm not trying to fight here either. If this forum was an actual marina/bar where you could sit, have a drink, talk boats and actually go boating or fishing with friends I would be in heaven lol which I don't believe in drinking and driving. Like I said the truth will be known here one of these days.

What could of happened they could of took my dogs off that day when animal control came up. I have been letting these dogs in and out myself for a while now at night and I haven't been getting to sleep until 3am in the morning, so I do recall when these dogs are in and when they are out. Even though it is cold out side I do step out and have a smoke on the front porch. As we done mentioned even if it was a short time frame that they were out something could of happened. I know that my dogs didn't get hauled off but if this is over a lie and if I got tied up in paying to bail these dogs out then I would be extremely mad.

What can still happen even if this is over a lie or not, these people still can sue me for the vet bill if they happened to of taken this "injured" dog to the vet. Once again wouldn't you be mad if this was over a lie and the incident happened on your land after all?

My belief is that this dog was injured during the fight and it was injured on my land and I believe the owner buttered the story up saying that it occurred on his land and that the dog threatened him. Where the fight occurred when I heard a fight was closer to this relatives house and he would of been able to hear the dogs without a problem. It's like my mother said after the incident happened with my father's bush hog knocked the window out of the one vehicle, my mother said that they think that we have money (which we do not). What I would like to know about the fight that I witnessed on our land is if there was any human interaction involved in trying to split the dogs up when they were fighting, but I never heard a human voice during the fight and it was dark out when this happened. There could of been another fight.

What happened happened and right now I'm just feeling the situation out, hoping that I don't get stuck with a law suit. If you all knew how crooked this relative really is then you would most likely agree there is a strong chance he lied. His father use to be a crooked city cop and he turned out to raise a crooked sun. They also would sue anybody at a drop of a hat and are one of those type of people that looks for reasons to sue somebody. There are still some witnesses that live right near this relative that I haven't asked yet. Again I'm not trying to fight with anybody either. Just be glad that you haven't been raised going throug the sh** that I've been through with this family and I'll leave it at that.

 

[beerrun]

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I hope it all works out for you. Just don't get yourself in trouble going over there. Not worth it. Are you going to try to figure out a way to keep this from happening again? Are you leaning toward any solutions? I would hate to see you lose your dogs over this.
I would be really mad if it was over a lie, but I would still see it as an oppurtunity to prevent anything real from happening. I would want to take away any chance they had at coming up with new lies. Good luck.
Oh- and how cold does Alabama get??It can't be that bad! Its 24 degrees here right now!!

 

[Nandy]

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Tonight lows for Bessemer al is 29 deg.

 

[External Combustion]

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Country boys' credo: shoot, shovel, shut up.

 

[wildmaninal]

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I hope it all works out for you. Just don't get yourself in trouble going over there. Not worth it. Are you going to try to figure out a way to keep this from happening again? Are you leaning toward any solutions? I would hate to see you lose your dogs over this.
I would be really mad if it was over a lie, but I would still see it as an opportunity to prevent anything real from happening. I would want to take away any chance they had at coming up with new lies. Good luck.
Oh- and how cold does Alabama get??It can't be that bad! Its 24 degrees here right now!!

I would like to price them boundary line shock collars that I asked the animal control lady about, but I can't afford much at the moment especially sense it's Christmas time and unemployed , plus I half to buy shock collars for three dogs . Then I we have 7 acres to worry about. I'm not for sure what we are going to do. I know after my brother put his dog on a runner after it ran loose for so long it really broke the dogs spirit pore dog, lately I hear they are letting him loose here and there. I'll tell ya what kind of family I was raised around, one of my cousin's (11 at the time) shot another German Shepard mixed that we use to have, he shot the dog in the eye with a BB gun then came to school and bragged about it to the class and nothing was every done to him to discipline him. There has been much worse happen. It's like my mother said maybe this relative will be loosing his home soon anyway so maybe we wont half to worry about it, she's just being sarcastic, I know I don't wish that upon anyone, but I wouldn't doubt if this relative I'm speaking of really will loose his home.

When I came back from the city it said 29 here in Gadsden AL and that was according to a bank's thermometer, I haven't looked at our outside thermometer. Just checked the thermometer and it is at 24. We are originally from NY, my pore aunt is up there in NY just broke her wrist when she slipped on an icy side walk. Oh our dogs ran loose up in NY also, well the dogs we had at that time .

LOL Minipulater
External Combustion, I'm a redneck I admit but I have never heard of that saying lol.

 

[Nandy]

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It is call the triple S (shot, shovel, shutup) as he explained.

 

[beerrun]

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That could get pretty pricey but you don't have to do the entire 7 acres either. They would get used to 2 or 3 acres and be fine. Thats plenty of room for 3 dogs. You can get an Innotek system from Cabellas with enough extra wire to cover 2 acres plus 2 extra collars for $550.00. You could always expand that later too. I know right now is a tough time to be dealing with this. Christmas and all. $$ is tight. Just something to think about. You could probably find it cheaper on ebay too. Innotek is a good brand.
I don't know why I didnt think that Alabama got that cold. You're just so far south. I guess I think of anything below Virginia as being nice warm states.Where in NY were you from? Hope your Aunt heals up well falling on the ice is rough. You know its slippery but its still a shock every time. When youre in the air anticipating the landing you know you have that face of shock. Then it hurts and youre mad and cold and if you dont get up soon you'll be mad cold hurt AND wet... AARGHHH. then ya look around to see if anybody saw how graceful you looked.:redface: