Forum Etiquette

Forum Etiquette

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 45.2%
  • No

    Votes: 27 37.0%
  • That's stupid! There is no agression here, PERIOD!

    Votes: 13 17.8%

  • Total voters
    73

cedarjunki

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Aug 23, 2007
Messages
472
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

Is it me or has the hostility on this forum gone up in the recent months? It seems a pattern of attacking those who answer questions is beginning to be more the norm than answering questions themselves.

Sure, I understand if someone answers a question and it may end up making something worse happen, or be dangerous it is important to bring it up, but the pattern I am seeing is far from "What so and so mentioned may cause harm because of..." and more along the lines of "That's just dumb! Do it this way! Period! ..."

Has anyone else seen this pattern?

i am finding it more noticable in the (repair or replace) aspect of questions...
just because one can afford to throw it out and buy a new one every time they turn around, doesnt mean we all can....

more and more conflicts arise between others saying its not repairable at all, when in reality it is! almost everything is. just because someone has the money and the sense of new is always better stuck in the head doesnt mean its not worth repairing for alotttttt less and still be as good as new.
if that were really the case then half the people here wouldnt even own a boat.

but i agree if someone offers bad advice its needed to be corrected.
but all the cheaper advise, should be welcome for the (do it ourselfers)
and not critisized for trying to fix and repair on our own.


sometimes its better to just read and not even reply to some posts!! sometimes you just cant help it though :/
 

kend301

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
1,005
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

I had someone tell me the facts of life out of what I am sure is frustration ... I quoted it and told him good luck with the boat ... then still offered help , I'm such a sap !
 

Fly Rod

Commander
Joined
Oct 31, 2002
Messages
2,622
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

The vote is close on the na's & ya's and the third question has no chance of coming close to the first two.

In the eight years that I have survived blogging here on Iboats I have seen it go from very hostile( mostly politics) to almost calm. We are only human, we are not perfect and some where along the blogs a blogger is apt to go astray just a little.

There is absolutely NO, No reason to belittle someone. Sometimes we have differences of opinon. Also sometimes there are differences of opinon with the mods on what is and what isn't.

When it is blatant I can see it left up to one moderator to lock it ASAP, but when it is borderline it should be discussed with three or five mods to determine what is hostile or political.

Have a happy day, be happy. :)
 

bruceb58

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Mar 5, 2006
Messages
30,581
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

I think somebody just gets their feelings hurt and makes a thread like this instead of doing what they should do. That is report the post(s) to the Moderators. You don't have to fight back or leave. Help them do their job
One person's jest is another person's hostility. You will never satisfy everyone because everyone has a sensitivity threshold where their feelings get hurt. Just disagreeing with someone does not mean you are being hostile.

I recently was having a discussion with another poster where we took it offline in PMs. That is a good way to resolve issues rather that blasting each other in the thread.
 

LadyFish

Admiral
Joined
Mar 18, 2003
Messages
6,894
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

The vote is close on the na's & ya's and the third question has no chance of coming close to the first two.

In the eight years that I have survived blogging here on Iboats I have seen it go from very hostile( mostly politics) to almost calm. We are only human, we are not perfect and some where along the blogs a blogger is apt to go astray just a little.

There is absolutely NO, No reason to belittle someone. Sometimes we have differences of opinon. Also sometimes there are differences of opinon with the mods on what is and what isn't.

When it is blatant I can see it left up to one moderator to lock it ASAP, but when it is borderline it should be discussed with three or five mods to determine what is hostile or political.

Have a happy day, be happy. :)

And thats exactly how we moderate. We have a special section that only mods can see and discuss questionable posts and member's behavior. If we poof someone without discussion, we have a place for an explanation on that post that only we can see.

We try our very best to PM the offender but in some cases we don't.

Did I mention, we double up during a full moon. ;):p
 

LadyFish

Admiral
Joined
Mar 18, 2003
Messages
6,894
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

You might find this helpful. The following is posted under the "Rules" section of the Forum index.



How to Use Proper Forum Etiquette
Internet etiquette, or Netiquette, has its own set of rules.

When you join an online community forum, it's a good idea to mind your manners if you don't want offend others and incite troublemakers into giving you a hard time.

Instructions

Step 1

Read the forum rules. Even if you're excited to be a member of a new forum and can't wait to join in, take the time to find the Forum Rules and Guidelines page and read it thoroughly.

Step 2

Lurk a little before you dive right in. Read a number of posts, or check out the group's archives. Get a feel for the tone of the forum so you can participate accordingly.

Step 3

Remember your face doesn't show. Words alone can convey sentiment, but without benefit of inflection or facialexpression, they can be misconstrued. Use descriptive wording, emoticons or .gifs to ensure your meaning is clear. By the same token, don't jump to conclusions about another person's intent in posting an unclear comment. When in doubt, ask for clarification.

Step 4

Type in lowercase or standard case, not in all caps. By the rules of netiquette, all caps equates to shouting. If you type with all caps, you will annoy and possibly offend other forum members.

Step 5

Say online exactly what you would say in person. In other words, if you wouldn't say it to the person's face in front of your Grandmother, you shouldn't type it into a forum. (aka the "grandma filter")

Step 6

Be respectful. Internet etiquette is similar to standard etiquette in this area. Appreciate that your opinion is one of many. You can disagree with another person without being disrespectful or rude online.

Step 7

Ignore Trolls. Netiquette guidelines are very specific where they're concerned. If you engage in conversation, you'll raise your blood pressure and empower the Troll. You can't win a flame war, and you can't sway a Troll's opinion. Often, they don't even care about the subject; they live for the conflict and nothing more. Trolls are common and not worthy of your time. Ignore their posts-no matter how inflammatory.

Step 8

HAVE FUN! Enjoy spending time with others who share your love of boating and family and welcome to iboats!

FORUM HARASSMENT

If you receive harassing PMs or e-mails from regular forum users and they do not stop upon request, immediately report it to management.


iboats will not tolerate any form of harassment against its members. Failure to comply with a request to cease this behavior may lead to permanent banishment of the offender.
 

jay_merrill

Vice Admiral
Joined
Dec 5, 2007
Messages
5,653
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

:eek:

I got the denied access thing to LF's link too.

Gee, iboats sent me an email that said I am one of the "500 most influential" forum members.

So much for that theory! ;)


'Scuse me - I have to go cry in my beer now ..... No! Wait! I don't drink beer! Cry in my Diet Coke? :p
 

JB

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
Mar 25, 2001
Messages
45,907
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

LF: "Did I mention, we double up during a full moon?"

This is easier for those of us with split personalities. :)
 

Bob_VT

Moderator & Unofficial iBoats Historian
Staff member
Joined
May 19, 2001
Messages
26,064
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

LF: "Did I mention, we double up during a full moon?"

This is easier for those of us with split personalities. :)

Yup both of me are ready!! :p
 

kenmyfam

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Messages
14,392
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

Not getting a vote from me.
Why can't we all just get along !!!:)
 

SS MAYFLOAT

Admiral
Joined
May 17, 2001
Messages
6,372
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

Things are mild in my opinion vs the way they once were.....And Amen to that! :D

Many members jumped ship when the hammer came down several years ago, only the dedicated ones have still stayed.

Use the report function if it goes against the rules that are set forth.
 

Tim Frank

Vice Admiral
Joined
Jul 29, 2008
Messages
5,346
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

LF: "Did I mention, we double up during a full moon?"

This is easier for those of us with split personalities. :)

Probably best not to tell your spouses....:eek:
 

DaNinja

Lieutenant
Joined
Jun 11, 2008
Messages
1,407
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

"Becoming" is misspelled in the poll question.
That's just stupity.:D

...and no, this board is the most tame and most moderated board that I'm on.:D
 

Stachi

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Jul 14, 2009
Messages
1,671
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

to sum it all up... no one likes an a-hole :D
 

TilliamWe

Banned
Joined
Dec 21, 2004
Messages
6,579
Re: Forum hostility

Re: Forum hostility

...

Sure, I understand if someone answers a question and it may end up making something worse happen, or be dangerous it is important to bring it up, but the pattern I am seeing is far from "What so and so mentioned may cause harm because of..." and more along the lines of "That's just dumb! Do it this way! Period! ..."

Has anyone else seen this pattern?

That is my experience as well. A few certain members can not seem to accept that there are multiple ways to accomplish boat repairs. Some ways that are EXACTLY as printed in the manufacturers' book, and other ways that are less expensive, but just as effective.
I am always trying to help educate new(er) boaters that it doesn't have to cost $1000 everytime something needs repaired on a boat. Unfortunately there is a segment of people on here that seem to support that axiom. Oh well, I still post my experience and opinions.
 
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