Going through the big "D" and I dont mean Dallas

LadyFish

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Art is right. Its like disposable relationships.

Marriage is work just like any other relationship. If you think otherwise, then you are just wrong. Speaking from 35 years of experience.

In this case it sounds like the wife is the one disposing the relationship. I'm not sure if people just don't make good decisions on who they want to spend the rest of thier life with, or just don't think that far ahead but there are far too many divorces today.

ne7800, ten years is a long time investment in a relationship, its sad she dosen't any value in that.

Good luck to you.
 

FBPirate95

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Art,

I agree with your philosophy, although I personally went through divorce. At the time I made the decision to do it, I NEVER EVER EVER in my life thought it would be something I'd do. I hated myself for even thinking it. But after weighing out how every day there was nothing that made me want to be with her, how she constantly nagged, gave nothing to the relationship much less assist in the "work" of running a household, and the fact that the stress had built up so much in my life my health was suffering from it, I had no choice but to get her out of my life.

How did I get into this situation? It was completely my fault. There were plenty of times I could have moved on, and never would have gotten to the point of marriage with her. But I felt obligated to "care" for her after a severe car accident, emotional issues, etc. I didn't see how she could support herself on her own.

So to summarize, I still don't believe divorce is the best solution in all cases. Both sides have to put their full effort into making it work. If it doesn't work then, or you can't get your partner to put the effort in, at some point you have to do what's best for your emotional well being.

I'm not speculating on ne7800's situation, that's between him and his wife. But whatever he feels the right thing to do in his heart, then that's what he's got to do.
 

Fly Rod

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Now a days average life span of a new marriage is ten years. That is in line with the average home ownership, Hmmmm.

Wow! I'm long over due.

There is two sides to every story.

No marriage is perfect

In todays world maybe they should remove the verbiage in the vows, "Will you love her/him, comfort her/him, honor and keep her/him, in sickness and in health, for richer, for poorer, for better, for worse, in sadness and in joy, to cherish and continually bestow upon her/him your heart?s deepest devotion, forsaking all others, keep yourself only unto her/him as long as you both shall live?"



Even geese do not mate for life as some thought they did.
 

DayCruiser

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I was watching a documentary where they explored how marriage came about. One theory is that there was so much running around by single people that is was causing a lot of conflict, jealousy etc. They also tried chastity belts for the women.
So really monogamy is not natural to human behavior. Like has been said, you have to work at it. You set limits when it comes to arguing. I watch what I say, no matter what she says. You win, you still lose.
I am not for staying together at all cost. Many people just are not compatible. You don't know that until you live together
 

Bigprairie1

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After reading all these posts, I am amazed at how much as a society we value integrity ... we wish we could go back to the days where a man's word meant something and deal could be done on a handshake.

But when it comes to commitments in marriage and relationships, well, our word doesn't mean much. We commit till death do us part and when trouble comes, run to a lawyer instead of doing all we can to keep our word. And yes, it goes both ways for both parties. It is not wonder the institution of marriage doesn't mean much to the younger generation ... because we have devalued our word.

...nicely put...I certainly agree Art.
It would be interesting to see where the seeds of a divorce start..because there is certainly a pretty high percentage of them these days and second marriages jump to something like 80% failure rates.:eek:
Spend some time with your feelings on this one NE...make sure you are still in love, then make your next move. Forget the lawyer/legal stuff until you have gone over 'job 1'.
Good luck.
BP:):cool:
 

oceansbreeze

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I had almost 13 years invested in my relationship, and 6 were married. She got that 6 year itch, and we never saw that anniversary. Left me for some guy she met online and moved to the USA to be with this guy. To top it off, he was a real loser, as my mother in law got to spend 3 weeks with him. She eventually kicked the pair out of her house, and told me I should have sent her daughter to the mental institution while I had authority to do so, 'cause she wasn't right in the head for these decisions she was making. This guy had all kinds of mental issues for which he was taking medication. As well, he was a smoker (my ex was allergic to smoke, and was repulsed by anybody who smoked, but for this loser, she didn't seem to care) he couldn't keep a job, he was constantly fired, and had just gotten evicted from his apartment, and had to move back to live with his mother and father at 41 years age. He suffered from severe depression, and anxiety..

Like FBPirate, I hated that I had to do this. Never thought it'd be me, and the reality was she gave nothing to our relationship either. She didn't do anything around the house. She refused to work, and I supported her for all the years we were together.... everything was an excuse. She hated my friends, and my family, and we bailed on every social event we were invited to, till the point people stopped inviting us to go. She sucked the life out of me, and now I have it back, and I've never been happier..

My friend is a psychologist, and determined that my ex most likely wanted to feel needed. She felt since I made the money, bought the groceries, did the shopping, I mean, I literally DID everything, while she played on the computer - she probably left me for this loser, so somebody could need her too. It kind of made sense.....

I can't even imagine re-marrying now, I don't know how some of you guys are on wife #3 or 4 again.... scary stuff..

Because of my exes guilt - she only packed a few bags and boxes, and her computer, and was gone. It took me a month to go through everything in our house, my ex was a slob, and packed stuff in boxes and closets. 3 trips to the dump, and I still brought 14 LARGE (25x25x24") boxes to her mothers. with her crap in them. I cut her a company cheque in the divorce settlement, and she got nothing else. Not my car, not the house, my company, nothing but her cheque and a divorce certificate. I was lucky.

Anyway, as to the OP - 10 years is a long time. I didn't give up on my marriage easily, I fought for it, for 6 months (and I don't know why? maybe to avoid feeling like a failure who didn't at least try)... but sit down, and talk to her. It takes work, and if you love her, you guys can work past this and save the marriage....

It's already been said we don't know the whole story, and so there has to be more to this than you said. If there's another man involved, you're pretty much screwed though.. I really hope the best to you.
 

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I wish I could have been like my parents. They're having their 50th anniversary on July 2. WOW!!!
 

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My parents were married for over 50 years. My mother would constantly complain about my father working too long and other things. Seemed she wasn't very happy but hung in there.

My father passed away last year and my mother showed her true side by being by his hospital bedside everyday for hours, keeping him comfortable and talking to him. Love should be forever.

As for me, we tried to recover our marriage but other things kept getting in the way. I truly feel it was my mother-in-law that caused all the grief with my then wife, but she refused to see the truth. Well, my EX mother-in-law just passed away last month and seeing how my ex-wife passed away about 7 years ago, the estate lawyer contacted our son to tell him that he will not be getting anything which we sort of expected but if my ex-wife were still alive, she would have inherited a whopping thousand dollars! You have to understand that my EX mother-in-law was a multi millionaire who owned apartment complexes and shopping areas. Non of the original five children probably inherited anything. The daughter from the mother's second marriage got it all. I think the son from the second marriage got skunked too.
 

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Two types of men married women do not like.

One that works all the time.

One that likes to go out and have a little fun.
 

FBPirate95

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Hey Ne....how are you doing today? Doing alright?
 

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People say, "You gotta go with your heart". You also have to go with your head. Only you can weigh the option of salvaging the marriage or walking away. If you split, try to do it on friendly terms...I did...We used one attorney and did not fight about a thing. She wanted the divorce. I gave it to her. She regretted it and wanted me back. I loved her, but not enough to possibly go thru it all again. I have been happily divorced 12 years now. The memory has faded. She is like a stranger to me now.
 

ne7800

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Hey Ne....how are you doing today? Doing alright?

She is signing the papers at her lawyers office Tuesday, the hardest thing in the whole situation in my daughter, who i am pretty sure i will not see for a long time and that hurts a lot but because she is only my step daughter I cant do much about it
 

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Hang in there NE better times will be ahead
 

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When I read your origanal post I was under the impression this was a fixable issue given a little time and lots of discusion between you and her.
But it seam's she has ramped it up to the next level, and if there is anyway way of fixing the issue's between you and her, "do it now".
As a lot of the guy's have mentioned, it could get messy, the legal people will go for the throat and no one win's.
The best weapon you have right now is your abillity to stay calm and talk to her in a clear and concise manner.
So keep your chin up, and do not do any thing crazy!!
good luck
 

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Oh no... there's always a clear winner when the dust settles.

The attorneys always make money regardless of how YOU come out in the deal.
 

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Oh no... there's always a clear winner when the dust settles.

The attorneys always make money regardless of how YOU come out in the deal.

Did not want to push that button or this could be closed really quick, and right now the OP is going to have lot's of question and will need some help.
 

gonefishie

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I feel your pain bro. I can really relate. Almost the exact same situation except I didn't get to keep the dogs. She went back to her mom with the kid and dogs. It has been over a year now. I'm getting better but still struggling with it sometimes. The upside is I've spend more time on the water last year then the 3 yrs we were together. :D
 

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Did not want to push that button or this could be closed really quick, and right now the OP is going to have lot's of question and will need some help.

Yeah, you're right.... open mouth, insert foot.


Apologies all around for not having anything positive to contribute, but posting anyway.
 

LadyFish

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She is signing the papers at her lawyers office Tuesday, the hardest thing in the whole situation in my daughter, who i am pretty sure i will not see for a long time and that hurts a lot but because she is only my step daughter I cant do much about it

Wow, that was quick.:eek:

Hang in there, it'll be over with soon. One day you may even ask yourself why you wasted so much time with someone who can leave in the blink of an eye. She must be hell bent on her decision. What a shame.

We're here for you NE.
 

hunterfab

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Went through a nasty one 5 years ago.. Cost me my business and tons of hard earned dough... Was great for 15 years till the drinking monster took her then it was pure hell.. Tried everything to get her to quit but to no avail! She finally hooked up with another drunk from her work and became drinking buddies one thing led to another and well... I had to get rid of her... I got the kids though and she got the rest. my boats,guns and a couple of trucks but was worth every penny!! She now resides in county jail because of a bunch of domestic disputes with her "drinking buddie" so I guess Karma bit her on the rear! Dont worry it WILL get better with a little time and life will go on! BTW she owes me about 20k with child support and other stuff which we just took to court and got a judgement on! Always hoped she would just ride off into the sunset and never be heard from again but it didnt work out that way! least it will be quiet while she is in the graybar hotel!! LOL
 
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