got me a project...newb need some help..with my engine

dloveb

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And thank you mark. I'm eager to get her out on the water.
 

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Another thing also. The out drive is off. Should I rebuild it. Too.... Since its already off.. and is it difficult to do... My gimble bearing is there a way to check it see if its good... Or should I do that too.????
 

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You HAVE to use the 305 Distributor, Carb, alternator, starter....All of these should have a marine certification sticker on them....Car electrical part + enclosed space + fuel vapor = BOMB!
These things aren't certified Marine cause they operate differently or are more durable, it's for Safety.


If the 350 engine is from a truck, the cam is probably close to a marine cam anyway, I'm not real familiar with telling used cams apart, but there's gotta be casting numbers or something on them,...

As far as the outdrive.....Bare minimum would be the impeller kit in the lower unit, and fresh gear lube, definitely inspect the bellows and gimbal while you have it off.....
 

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Re: got me a project...newb need some help..with my engine

never mix and match used parts in an engine without knowing the tollerances. Has the crank been re-finished, if not, take the crank to a machineshop and have refinished. they will then get you the proper bearings. however you have to determine what version of 350 you have. 1-piece or 2-piece rear seal. the 305 was a 2-piece rear seal motor.

you have a pile of parts from two engines in a state of semi-assembly without knowing what you have. before you even buy anything, you need to know what you have, where your starting from. you will need to identify the 350 block/heads. if you can not, I suggest you at least talk to your local machine shop to identify the parts. from there you can then go thru the process of planning the re-assembly.

swapping cams from one motor to the next can be done. usually involves buying new lifters. however at that point, why not just buy a new cam and lifter set.

you do have to use every marine part from the 305 - distributor, carb, alternator, starter, fuel pump, exhaust manifolds, thermostat housing, etc.

As far as the drive. that will need to be inspected prior to installing. I would replace the water pump, and pressure test at a minimum. if you suspect the coupler, or gimbal bearing, now is the time to replace them.
 

dloveb

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Ok scott. Will do. Im picking the motors up Tuesday ..I see what I got. N post my progess. So my out drive its more than likley its alpha drive right. It's seems to only weigh around eighty pounds. It's has sticker on it saying 898. I have paper work on it and serial numbers so I guess I could go from that right.
 

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Scott defiantly has you moving in the right direction. When you get all your stuff, post some pictures so we can help you id everything. :)
 

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Ok cool. Thanks joeboat
 

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Yep sounds like you have an 898 engine in front of an R or MR drive....pretty much exactly like mine.....
The serial number on the side of the drive will tell you if it's an R or MR

I hope I wasn't coming across as a jerk in the above posts, but the marine electrical stuff is that important...
 

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Oh no Mark. It's great. I know it is important. Not a jerk at all I have all the marine accessories. From merc, 305. That was originally in the boat. And im going to buy all new ignition spark parts to. Plugs cap wires all of it. I have everything from the original engine. To transfer to 350
 

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First let me wish ya all the best on your venture.
The boat in my pic 20FT. Crestliner, came to me with a 228 merc. , rods knockin and needing an engine (305 2 piece seal). I aquired a 350 auto engine swapped all the 305 marine components including cam and used lifters added a new timing chain, on the outside if it was black it was put on the 350.I never swapped the cylinder heads though.
I had to increase the prop to keep the RPM in range but i now have a 48 MPH boat on GPS.
I am not suggesting you use the old lifters as I know better but I did and got away with it:D. Its been 2 years now and I just started it today for the first time this season and was like I just shut it off yesterday.
So again good luck an have fun in yer boat.
 

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Getinthere. Hey u know my dads been mechanic. Owned his shop for forty five years now..he said same thing put that damn 350 in it with stuff from 305. And put that ***** in the water. Lol. So I am...what do u mean by your prop. Plzzzz tell. Should I think bout something like that. Let me know what u mean. Plzzzz...thanks
 

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I am an auto mechanic that loves my boats:D.
Also workin on a 20 FT Grew with a 307 and an OMC electric shift:D

The 350 being a lot stronger engine will over rev with the prop matched to the 305 possibly causing damage to either the drive or engine or both. Increase prop size to keep the MAX RPM within the specific limits of your unit. My boat with the 305 had a 19 inch prop, with the 350 I am running a 25 inch Mirage stainless. Max RPM in my boat is 5400 RPM
 

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So sounds like I need figure out some research on props. Cuz I have no idea bout there sizes n all that. How do measure a prop. Dumb question. Lol. But I'm new to all this.. so I'm allowed to ask the dumb questions. That's why I'm here ..lol
 

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Help. I pick my motors up this weekend. Found out the guy did the block to marine specs. The 350 is almost ready to drop in. Should I put everything on the block as far as my exhaust and etc...from the 305 merc..before i drop the motor in or after. I know in car. Ill put everything on I can before dropping it in.. what bout my boat motor same deal or what...plzz any advice will be helpful.
 

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Re: got me a project...newb need some help..with my engine

Help. I pick my motors up this weekend. Found out the guy did the block to marine specs. The 350 is almost ready to drop in. Should I put everything on the block as far as my exhaust and etc...from the 305 merc..before i drop the motor in or after. I know in car. Ill put everything on I can before dropping it in.. what bout my boat motor same deal or what...plzz any advice will be helpful.

Ayuh,.... Ideally, ya put it together, 'n Run it on the floor, before droppin' it in...

Some boats require pullin' the manifolds back off, just to squeeze the motor in...

If ya got the Space, 'n liftin' power, no reason not to fully assemble on the stand....
 

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ok thank you ...bondo
 

dloveb

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got my motors finally ...the 898 had two cracks in the block...i have a 350 5.7 came out of 1989 chevy truck with 20,000 miles..on it.
i ordered all my gaskets for the exhaust...the 898 has fresh water cooling system on it ...dumb question..but what is it for and what does it do..im going to upload alot of pics...so any advice on anything plzzz let me know ..or any suggestions..will be helpful...
 

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