Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Marada92

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Great job so far! Love the boat... I read through the entire thread today and I must say it has been very entertaining! That old CC is going to be awesome when your done. The grinding was by far the worst part of my build besides having to look at my bank account each week... But once I started the rebuild its been getting enjoyable! Keep up the great work you'll be done in no time.
 

oops!

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

ok buddie.......its sunday.......

i know its only noon ish there........buy just letting you know.....

we are waiting.......lol

have a great day bud
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Okay, I did not have a hugely productive weekend on the boat?.

We had this>>>>
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(my oldest won the silver medal at the piano festival, which is where I spent Saturday morning)?.

And today we had this>>
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My youngest (yall haven?t met her yet)? turned 1.

Excuse the non-boating, personal pictures, but I?m a proud papa?.

Here is the video from my work session this weekend. This one contains a few new treats for you guys (give it a couple of minutes for the fun to start). I am starting to learn my way around imovie a little bit more and was able to add some new ?production features? that I think you will get a kick out of? (make sure your volume is UP)?.

Hope you enjoy?
 

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rrumba

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

so in other words you were being lazy.......... go figure.......:)
 

scoutabout

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Hey PM - long time lurker here on your resto thread. What a great video that last one was. Gave me the good laugh I needed before heading out to do Monday morning commuter battle and the uphill climb to Friday.

Great project and great to see your progress, building confidence, and of course, the humour. Keep it up! Myself I'm itchin' (ok poor choice of words...) to see that transom build and powerplant install but am enjoying all the other stuff too. Wonderful to see the kids keeping you company as well!

Scout
 

GT1000000

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

That was a cool video PM, really enjoyed it...

If I could move that fast I would've been done before I started:D

Congrats to the musician and Happy B-day to the young one, God Bless

GT1M
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

wow.......a piano player.....!

silver is good..... i bet you go to sleep at night with the tune "chopsticks" playing in your head !
super for her.....that great she did so good.

and the one year old. .......lol.....cant believe how much she looks like "daddy" :D
 

oops!

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1, episode 8).

it looks like you are having a grand old time with the grinding. ugh.....cant get enough eh?

i can tell with your open tyvec, you are doing a lot of itching at night.. im surprised the admiral has not kicked you out of bed yet.

im going to look for the bio med suit on the net for you.
 

boatnut74

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Great work so far PM. I have something similiar gong on right now myself (stringer drive) that I also plan to swap out for mercruiser. You got me all excited to start grinding now :facepalm:. Keep it up, your almost ready to start rebuilding.
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Marada:
Thanks for stopping by and the kind words. Maybe we can meet up for some boating fun somewhere locally when we get these boats splashed next spring.

Scoutabout:
Thanks for jumping in. Glad to have you on board, and glad the new video gave you a good laugh. That's about as entertaining as I make grinding.

Boatnut:
Glad you are making the merc swap. With all the work you are about to put into that big boat, I think its probably the only option. Good call!!!

GT and Oops:
Thanks for the Kind words... Very proud of the kiddos and yes I did "stamp" that little one...

Teamster and Oops:
I'm really not itching all that bad. I simply hose down my face and neck when I am done, and (knock on wood) the itching has not been bad at all. I am telling you guys, "Cetaphil" is like magic potion for killing any itch. I feel like my respirator is doing really well. May be overkill, but I put in fresh cartridges before each session. They are only 15 bucks for a set..... I feel like I am getting good, clean air. One little "trick" i use is to put a piece of gum in my mouth while grinding. It makes you ultra-sensitive to taste... If you get even the faintest hint of "glass taste" in your mouth... time to take a time out or switch out those cartridges....
 

oops!

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I did some Google searches just for fun,..

Looks like Opps has the right idea with the suits,..

Searching "bio med suit" only got me hits for lawsuits,....lol

However searching "hazardous materials suits" got some good hits,..

http://www.labsafety.com/protective-clothing/hazmat-suits-coveralls-24417262/

im looking for the suit on line.....its only about 10 bux......

a pull over coat with elastics and an attached hood......and pull up pants with elastic around the waist and ankles.....

i wear it under a set of over alls and it lasts months......

with tapped wrists.....and a scarf around your neck......there is no dust......none.....
its hot......but i would rather be hot than itchy.
 

Mike Lammert

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Congrats to the kids there PM. They are intelligent kids, winning awards so early in life...and that little one is so cute! I hate to say I don't blame you, the boat can wait, spend as much time with those youngins, they're our future! Boats lookin great man, keep it coming, I'm watching!:cool:
 

scoutabout

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I know I'm way late for voting (and probably don't deserve to being an outboard guy where shop, drop, and clamp is about as complicated as it gets on a repower job... :D) Ahem, I digress.

Vote 1: Keep those fab docking lights, they add a bit of personality - and who knows, might even help with night landings. Skargo has em on a blue hull as I recall and they look great. And from the Small World files, a neighbour had some when I was a kid and as I recall, they were installed....wait for it.....in a glass Starcraft....We all thought it was one of the coolest looking boats around - reevitless shortcomings notwithstanding!

Vote 2: Interior layout. I'd forego the captain's chairs and bench. Yes, that ebay boat looked nice but with the number of kiddies, it won't be too many years before you are probably nonstop tubing. This means someone is going to spend a lot of time facing backwards and if you spin a captain's chair around, now you've got even more intrusion into the rear cockpit area, plus have lost a front seat, so to speak. The back-to-backs still allow a front passenger as well as a comfy spotter position. Without seating in the bow I think you are going to have to make the most out of the seating in the rear. Anyway - food for thought.

Finally - I'm curious - how are you supporting that hull? Just the two dollies? As cool as your spring-loaded setup looked, I wonder if they provide enough surface area. Does the hull flex at all when you are working inside it? Just wondering as you'll want to make sure that hull is dead fair before glassing in permanent substructure. I'm sure you know all this but thought I'd chime in anyway. Maybe have someone hold a straight edge against the underside while you move around, just to be sure it's not going anywhere on you.
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Scout:

Great questions.... The dock lights are staying. Every single person that has voiced an opinion has voted in favor of keeping them. I have actually purchased some new chrome ones from ebay that are already here. I'll post a picture. I think they are going to look great.

On the layout... We are thinking alike... I would say we are in the minority, as most people voted for the conversion to bench and captain's chairs. However, seeing that ebay boat really made me have second thoughts given the size of my family. We are a big crew and I'm sure kids will want to bring friends from time to time, so space will be a premium. Plus, my original seats are in great condition, and I want to keep the boat as true to the original as possible.

Third, on the supports. I still have the boat on the bunk trailer right now. However, I am taking it off of their pretty soon and moving it to the cradles, because I don't want the bunks to create a waffling effect when I re-build/re-foam, etc... I am keeping the cap on so I think that's going to help keep the hull from twisting, etc... So far, I think it is still holding fairly true, because the walk through windshield still shuts perfectly. My guess it that it would be hard to shut (or vice versa - would be separating) if the hull was twisting. However, I am definitely going to measure (I may need some more detail on how you do that), and will probably build some additional supports when I move the boat inside (hopefully in the next few days when I finish out this grinding).

Thanks,
rpm
 

Decker83

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

PM,
The last video was great. One of the best I've seen here.
Great looking family. I really liked when your son ask What are walleyes. Then said walls with eyes.
That was really funny.
Keep up all the great work and the vids. Looking forward to the next one.
Kent
 

gunsup007

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Pm, dude that last video was awesome. Great job! Keep them coming.
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Friends,
This is the point in our program (the first of many) where I need a little help troubleshooting an issue.

I am working on my transom build for the new merc set up. In preparation for cutting the ply, I cobbled some cardboard together to outline the general shape of the transom. Then, I applied that general shape to a some blue foam - further refining the form. When I went to test fit the foam piece, it was a bit more rigid than the cardboard. I could not squeeze it in under the cap, due to the various pinch points.. See picture below.
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So, i need a little help engineering this. I REALLY, REALLY don't want to pull the cap, because this is really the only time in the build I would need to. I also though about just cutting a hole in the top of the cap and pouring some seacast down it, but that plan creates two problems: (a) Seacast is not in the budget; and (b) I would still have to get the firm "inner skin" for the sea cast mold past the same pinch points that are blocking the ply.

So, by process of elimination (standardized test style), I think I am just going to have to cut the boards and/or the fiberglass overhangs for some relief, so I can maneuver my transom pieces in there. Good idea? Bad idea? Another idea?

Hang with me, please, two related points I need help with.

(a) I won't have my key-hole pre-cut because I can't really measure the X-dimension until the new transom is installed. So, I won't have an opening to use for for clamps like frisco and others have done. So, since I already have ton of holes in my transom that I am going to have to fill and fair (including the giant OMC orifice), I am thinking about just using through bolts and then I will fill the holes with peanut butter or something after removing them????

(b) My existing transom is not perfectly flat - it's slightly barreled out (stern side). It's not grossly convex, but its enough to create a concern. There is some flex (right now) and you can actually flatten the transom by pushing in from the outside/stern side. It sort of waffles in and then waffles back out when you let go. So, I can either: (i) "force flatten" it by using a bunch of peanut putter and clamping the crap out of it (although I am worried that my create some flex/separation over time) or (ii) build it up/fair it out by adding some PB and/or CSM to the "middle portions" of the existing transom to create a nice, flat surface. I will video it tomorrow in comparison to a flat line or level so you can have a better picture of what I am talking about.

So, in summary your homework involves 3 questions:

1. Any creative ideas on getting my transom pieces in without lifting the cap other than what I have suggested.

2. Best way to achieve "major clampage" without a key hole for clamps and without taking the cap off? Through bolts the answer?

3. Best way to flatten out the transom to facilitate best adhesion and to achieve that nice, flat surface required for Merc set-up.

thanks guys, appreciate any help.
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

I'm not an expert by any means, but here's my $0.015:
You'll get change back from my 2cents.:cool:

since you do have an existing hole, you can't make a rough guess-timate on where your keyhole will fall? Make as small a hole in your new transom plywood to accept 3, maybe 4 clamps through a 4 or 5 inch hole. Worst case is you miss & have to fill it after you fix the existing outdrive hole. I saw some interesting transom clamps using car scissor jacks on a forum yesterday, that you could actually fab to work over your splashwell. Minor welding, minimal costs. But similar jaw clamps could be made w lumber, bolts (through 3&1/2 dimension) and hinges, I can't find bookmark I thought I made. Going to have to search my history......And don't forget to leave 1/4 - 3/8th gap around plywood edges, filled & filleted anyway. That makes you transom 5/8 - 3/4 short overall. Is that enough to slide it home? If you template is 1&1/2 insulation, you may need to install ransom plywood 1 layer at a time, not pre-fabbed out of the boat in advance. Which until you solve the ransom curve, probably is a no go anyway. If the ransom curves left & right across the stern, it may bow top to bottom too....


Try & find a reference to confirm ransom is SUPPOSED to be FLAT or CURVED. Someone here is bound to know or have 1 to check. Even just an ad or photo may be enough to tell. Overly stressing the existing fiberglass ransom skin or the new transom ply, doesn't sound like a good idea, whether to flat or to curved. I'm not sure which thread it was, may have been on fiberglassics, but I seem to remember someone using 3 pcs for first layup against the inside transom glass (left, right & a middle, and may have been done in 2 phases) with extra PB poly on both plywood & ransom skin. Apply pressure & spread clamping force, excess squeeze out PB is used to fill edges. Then only 2 pieces for the last, a left & right. Staggering joints important.....Again w PB heavy on 1st layer & 2nd layer of plywood. Of course all pcs are precoated w just poly and then poly&glass. 1st 3pc layer also glassed once installed (1708 & maybe 1.5 oz too). Probably tabbed too. Make sure you know max thickness @ keyhole, (2.25" ??) that may change how much poly &glass you do before install & between plywood layers.

Good luck, enjoying the thread!!!! Thanks
 
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