My New Boat!

Nathan R

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Hey everyone. I thought I would post up a few pics of my first boat. This is the first boat boat that I have actually owned myself, but I am a fairly avid boater having access to boats at almost any time I would like.

The boat is a 1996 Lund Tyee Magnum 1950 gran sport. I purchased it from a guy who bought it on an insurance auction. He paid so little for it that he was able to turn around and sell it to me for a little profit and I still think I got a good buy. The boat is in really nice shape. I am sure that the pictures dont do it justice, but the paint looks almost new. The hull doesnt have a single dent (other than the transom...see below) The interior carpet isnt stained or ripped. The four air ride seats are all in good condition without any rips. It came with a lowance globalmap color sonar and a bow mount trolling motor. There is also a 9.9 hp 4 stroke kicker with electric start and captains controls. Overall I am completely happy with the condition of the boat.

Now for the bad. The previous owner was cruising across lake of the woods and hit a dead head under the water. It only caught the big motor, but from what i understand it was violent enough to detach the motor from its mounts. Looking at the transom you can tell that there is damage, but it doesnt look nearly that extensive. I am half tempted to put the cap back on and brace the crap out of it, but I am going to do things right because I want to own this boat for a long time.

My plan is to remove all the transom wood and pour in seacast (or arjay 6011 whichever is less costly). Do any of you know if there is a comparable product that is less costly?

So now I am on the search for an outboard to power this monster. I am pretty much decided that I am looking for a 150hp outboard because I think it will offer enough power to make it enjoyable and more hp= more $$. The boat is rated for up to 200hp. I am not trying to do a bare minumum budget build, but I am more focused on value and reliability than anything aesthetic.

Take a look. Tell me I'm crazy for taking on this project! Thanks for your input.
 

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Nathan R

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Re: My New Boat!

Here is a pic of the transom wood. It is in pretty good shape except for where the engine plate was attached.

Quick question for you. The boat has controls for a 96' mercury motor and they are still in operating condition. Will they attach to a mariner motor? Also, it has a seastar hydraulic steering system, but the steering ram is gone. are the rams all the same with a different adapter or do they tailor the ram to the motor?
 

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SigSaurP229

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For a tin boat don't bother spending the money on Sea Cast or Nidabond. The transom are so easy to replace that it isn't worth the money. Remove the old one, make a new transom out of ACX or Marine ply and triple seal it with Epoxy resin and it will out last you and your children both.

I am not sure on the other stuff, I would thing the steering rams would be universal..


I would patch the hole on the bottom of the transom and leak test it asap.
 

Nathan R

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The question is for me at this point ; is iteas to hawg out the old wood and pour in a replacement or do a wood transom again? The seacast will be stronger and last longer, but wood will ultimately be cheaper. The problem with wood is that I will have to either remove the gunwales or cut part of them off. That's in addition to removing the splashwell which is no walk in the park.
 

Home Cookin'

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as you can see you have a lot of work ahead of you--that's why it was cheap. Get a price for a boat shop to rebuild it. Add that to what you paid for it. market value!
 

jigngrub

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My plan is to remove all the transom wood and pour in seacast (or arjay 6011 whichever is less costly). Do any of you know if there is a comparable product that is less costly?

3/4" Marine Treated Decking

Won't rot even if it gets wet and is safe for aluminum.
 

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I honestly can not see anyone who wants to save any money using a pourable material for the transom and I really have never heard of it being done on an aluminum boat. You would have to strip the old wood out anyway so just replace it with wood. OR you will end up building a structure to hold the seacast in below the spashwell and it it would be complicated.

Simple answer...... replace wood with wood (Just NOT pressure treated which reacts with aluminum).

Nice looking boat. Yes mariner and mercury controls interchange as long as they have the same electrical plug
 

Nathan R

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OK ok ... you have convinced me. I probably will go the marine grade plywood route. I am not going to get a shop to do the work. The whole reason I am doing what I am doing is because I will not pay anything near the market value for this boat. If I was into buying and reselling I could patch it up and hang a cheap motor on it put it back on the market for a profit, but I plan on keeping it for a long time.

Do any of you know anything about an outboard repair shop in Albertville Mn called Pro-Tech? They have a Mercury Black Max 150 hp outboard for sale. They buy or trade in wrecked motors, rebuild them, and either sell them or trade them out on another bad outboard. This particular engine has been completely rebuilt and they offer a one year powerhead warranty. I am leaning toward buying it unless you guys can give me a good reason not to.
 
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OllieC

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Love Tyee's. My friend has one we fish on. Congrats!
 

Watermann

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An awesome boat you have there that very much deserves to be back on the water. I suggest you strike while the iron is hot and just tear right into her. Start by removing everything from the transom and do yourself a favor and don't get ahead of yourself thinking about what is to come until you get there. Then we'll help you with ideas on repairing the ripped open tin, we have some guys around here who are the gods of tin and fixing these boats is what they love to do.

In your down time make a parts list and start shopping. This won't be cheap but then again you knew that going in.

When you get to the point of needing some assistance in the tear down, take lots of pics, open a photobucket account and start posting up the pics with your questions.
 
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Nathan R

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Thanks for the advice. I am a farmer so right now we are putting in a lot of 10 - 12 hour days. That doesn't leave much time for the boat, but I am finding the time to do some things. Fortunately I have a fully outfitted shop to work in. I will post pics as the project progresses.
 

saumon

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Tyee were tanks worth fixing.

What a dent on the bottom edge of the transom! Almost look like it got hit by an axe; must be the skeg that kicked back in after the OB came loose...For that one I'd just fill it with JB Weld and fair it smooth.
 

SigSaurP229

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3/4" Marine Treated Decking

Won't rot even if it gets wet and is safe for aluminum.

Jig that looks like great stuff and i haven't seen it before leave it to you to up the quality level.

In theory you wouldnt have to seal it at all but I wonder how it would react to being sealed with epoxy or something.

It seems on par with the cost of standard marine ply but well worth it if you dont have to seal it.

I would fix that hole then leak test it as its possible when the motor broke free it may have weakened some rivets
 

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Thanks for the advice. I am a farmer so right now we are putting in a lot of 10 - 12 hour days. That doesn't leave much time for the boat, but I am finding the time to do some things. Fortunately I have a fully outfitted shop to work in. I will post pics as the project progresses.

Huh 10-12 hour days as a farmer...... you are working part time! :D I live next door to a Dairy farm and my neighbors only do 15+ daily LOL

I am going to move this entire thread to the restoration section where it really belongs ;)
 

jigngrub

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Jig that looks like great stuff and i haven't seen it before leave it to you to up the quality level.

In theory you wouldnt have to seal it at all but I wonder how it would react to being sealed with epoxy or something.

It seems on par with the cost of standard marine ply but well worth it if you dont have to seal it.

The wood is kiln dried and readily absorbs both epoxy and polyester resins. The decking and transom of my Tracker are CCA plywood (factory) and you can see what the decking looks like after being epoxied in my vinyl thread:
http://forums.iboats.com/boat-resto.../97-tracker-pro-deep-v-facelift-509163-2.html

It says a minimum order of four 4 X 8 sheets at about $100 apiece.

To find this product locally check with your local marinas and boat dealers to find out where to get it.
 

Nathan R

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Hey guys. Thanks for all the advice so far. I started tearing apart the transom yesterday and had to remove some of the foam to reach the bolts on the inside. What kind of foam should I use to replace it and where is a good place to get it? Also, the rubber boots that route the cables through the aluminum are tore up. Where would I look for replacements?
 

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Not sure of the amount of foam you had to remove but I would think about skipping putting it back if it's up over the transom bolts. It can't be that much and wouldn't make a difference.

Boat Cable Boots
 
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