Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

Jdeagro

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We are very close to launching our new web site, and would like to post as many Smart Tabs installation pictures as possible for others to view. The most common question is where to mount the tabs, and will they fit my boat. Pictures are the best way to help others, and we could use your help. Please e-mail photos to john@nauticusinc.com<br /><br />We will also open a bulletin board, and a performance results page that anyone can use.<br /><br />Thanks in advance for your contributions.
 

Jdeagro

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Re: Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

Lubedude; Call me, I lost your telephone number - sorry!<br /><br />John
 

Jdeagro

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Re: Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

Sorry for the doubl post
 

Mercury140-I6

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John:<br /><br />I'd be more than happy to help in any way I can. Pictures of my friends boat will be E-Mailed tomorrow evening, and mine as soon as I get the tabs installed.<br /><br />Craig
 

LadyFish

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John, you have mail. :)
 

CalicoKid

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John, no problem, just send me the smarttabs to fit a 1988 Baja Sunsport 164 and I will install them and take pictures of the process for you. :D :D :D
 

fireman57

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Are we to be paid by you or out of the advertising budget?
 

stevens

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I realise you are probably just joking, but come on guys, don't give John such a hard time. :) <br /><br />He's been at it for years, giving out free advise to anyone that has asked, and answering the same questions over and over. As a result, many of us have installed his great product and have gotten much better handling boats from it.<br /><br />Sending him some pictures of his product in use is the least we can do to repay him for his patient help.
 

Jcrain

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It's called "Free Advertising" Just like when you buy a new car or truck and the dealer puts his name on it.
 

stevens

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I don't think that is quite the same. I would rather call this 'word of mouth' advertising, which is the best kind if you can get it. I think the Smart Tabs & John have earned it, at least judging from the many enthusiastic users and their testimonials here at iboats.
 

Jcrain

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Well, whatever you call it, he's hoping to advertise without paying for it. Ask John for a discount on the price and in return you will furnish a photo and see what the answer is
 

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Originally posted by Jcrain:<br /> Well, whatever you call it, he's hoping to advertise without paying for it. Ask John for a discount on the price and in return you will furnish a photo and see what the answer is
And Just How Do You Figure That,......??????<br /><br />The Man is building a Supeior Product,.....<br />Building a New website with Free Forums,.. Free Product Advice,.... Free Product Support,...<br />And,...... <br />When nessessary,.... Free Hardware, for customers who may want their tabs to do a little More than a Standard set Tabs,........<br /><br />Nothing in life is FREE,.......................<br /><br />But,...... Nauti-John supplies the Best Value for the Buck, that can be found AnyWhere.............................. ;) <br /><br /><br />Nauti-John has been a Highly Respected member of these,+ other forums for a considerable time,.......<br />Jcrain,.... It appears You're a fairly New member,+ You're talking very near the Edge here........<br />Believe Me,.......... John has Paid Big Time,... For what You consided Free Advertising.....................
 

Jdeagro

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Jcrain:<br /><br />I can understand that you may feel we are attempting to get free advertising, however that was not the motivation. The boating industry is rather small when compared to others such as the automobile industry. Therefor the ability to obtain information becomes cumbersome and expensive as there are no central sources. For example; there are hundreds of boat manufacturers, who make numerous boat models in small quantities. Many of these boats are sold on a regional basis only, which further complicates the issue of fit and application. <br /><br />Since we continuously get questions regarding fit and application, and since it is nearly impossible to document every boat, I felt that it may be beneficial to all consumers if they could view the same or similar boat installation. A picture is worth a thousand words as someone once said. The benefit to us is being able to help a potential customer easier.
 

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Re: Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

Hey, J when is the last time you called a company and got advice from the head cheese. John has treated me, a new guy, as if I were his only customer, in my book he is one stand up guy and I will be forwarding my photos.
 

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I guess I need to apologize for starting this. Stevens that was tongue in cheek. I orderd tabs from John about a month or month and a half ago and they work very well. I didn't need John's help on installation but I know it would have been there. Actually I posted looking for him and he answered all my questions and am pleased with the product and the service. If you want I will find the thread and put a link here. If you have noticed any time that someone puts a porpoising, hydrofoil, or planing question on here I always post "this sounds like a job for nautijohn". John I never thought that you were trolling for free advertising. I would send you a picture of my boat but it just about the ugliest thing you can imagine. I wouldn't want to scare off any would be customers. Thanks for you participation in these forums.
 

mattttt25

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Re: Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

john, bit of a highjack, but are you working on getting any boat companies to offer your tabs as standard or options? the other tab companies do this, wondering if that is a plan of yours?
 

Jdeagro

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I certainly appreciate all of this support, and want to thank each of you.<br /><br />It is a bit sad when we (the consumers , and that includes me) are not served well by the companies, stores, manufacturers etc. which then leaves us with a non trusting attitude. It makes it difficult for those who do try. I am not offend, I simply make the assumption that we have not been clear in our communications. And the Lord knows that a number of my so called "jokes" where less than funny. <br /><br />Regarding OEM Sales: We do sell a few, but for the most part, they take the attitude that the motor and their great hull design is not in need of trim tabs. Keep in mind that our target market is boat under 22'. As long as the boat will plane (regardless of how long it takes or at what speed, or how high the bow rises) it does not need trim tabs. Frankly they have been telling the story so long that they actually believe it. I have posted my opinion on why you do not see trim tabs on more small boats before, and it is rather simple. <br /><br />It is : <br />1) Cost<br />2) Horse Power to Weight ratio<br /> Small boats typically have 2 1/2 times the horse power to weight as the larger (30' +) cousin, therefore they will plane.<br />3) Safety - Small light fast boats will react very quickly to changes in tab positions at higher speeds. This could cause safety issues. <br /><br />Although Smart Tabs can not create a safety problem since you can not misuse them, The dealers and Manufacturers will tell you " Our Boats don't need trim tabs". I guess need is a matter of opinion, if it floats it has performed the basic function of a boat and trim tabs do not help it float.<br /><br />If you guys want to see what we are up against, call your boat (your brand) manufacturer and / or dealer and ask them about trim tabs especially on a boat under 22'.
 

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Re: Need Smart Tabs Installation Pictures for New Website

Ask John for a discount on the price and in return you will furnish a photo and see what the answer is
Hmmmmm... I see your point, but it's not like any of us NEED a reason to show off pictures of our boats. Just look at the occasional "show us your boat" threads..<br /><br />I'm with Bondo as well that John offers a good product at a decent price and goes above/beyond to help folks out. He doesn't have to spend the time posting about hanbdling problems, but he does. Just to be fair, Tabman does, or did?, post fro Bennett. I le seeing Mfgrs involved in discussions. <br /><br /><br />As for sending the pics, I sent John a pic, knowing full weell that it is fairly unlikely that anyone with the same hull I have would be interested in Smart Tabs, being that it hasn't been made for 20+ years, but you never know. If such persoon is out there, they can now see one way for the tabs to be mounted.
 

Terry H

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You'll get a pic of my homegrown boat with your tabs if I ever get the picture...We appreciate your products and your help. Chief ;)
 

stevens

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NautiJohn, just a stray thought; if you are to start a smart tabs bulletin board over at your own site, do you think that the folks here at iboats would let you copy and paste a few of the more interesting Smart Tabs threads from here? In exchange for a link, of course.<br /><br />This would give you a flying start, save you from answering some of these questions over again, and your new space won't be so glaringly empty when it opens.<br /><br />Anyway, just a thought...
 
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