No dipstick on 1989 era 3.0L?

dingbat

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All this electronic stuff in a wet marine environment just seems crazy.
Not if it’s done right.
Been building equipment for an environment that makes the marine environment look like a clean room for longer than I can remember.

Electrical component failures are few and far between. Most failures we are called into truobleshoot are customer induced. Bad power levels, reversed polarity, failure to put protective covers back in place, bent pins on connectors, damaged wiring, etc.

Usually so you can discover a leak just before it's too late in my experience. :LOL:
Easier to hit the button to monitor transmission performance in real time.
Same with oil level/pressure
 

Scott Danforth

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Tbf, not sure what the point of a transmission dipstick is. If I'm down there I'm changing the fluid anyway.
Maybe so, however a setup that requires 2 people to check and fill a transmission is stupid.

One under the vehicle with a pump and fluid, the other in the car,with the car in gear and running is a recipe for disaster. The mods to the trans pan cost 3x the price of a dipstick
 

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Maybe so, however a setup that requires 2 people to check and fill a transmission is stupid.

One under the vehicle with a pump and fluid, the other in the car,with the car in gear and running is a recipe for disaster. The mods to the trans pan cost 3x the price of a dipstick
Car in gear and running? What?
 

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Easier to hit the button to monitor transmission performance in real time.
Same with oil level/pressure
That's all well and good if you have a TFT/Level sensor. Most I've seen don't. Fords oil pressure gauges are mostly an idiot light. :rolleyes:

My daily (not a Ford) doesn't burn oil. I check the level after an oil change and right before I am going to change it. There is a sensor that will illuminate a light if it gets low... though typically it's about too late if that happens. (usually failed cooler lines) Anything I routinely needed to check fluid levels on is quite old at this point in time so I get why it isn't a thing anymore. And the tech (when it's actually there) is convenient. The BMW self burps the cooling system with the electric pump when you change the coolant. That's very nice!
 

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That's all well and good if you have a TFT/Level sensor. Most I've seen don't. Fords oil pressure gauges are mostly an idiot light. :rolleyes:

My daily (not a Ford) doesn't burn oil. I check the level after an oil change and right before I am going to change it. There is a sensor that will illuminate a light if it gets low... though typically it's about too late if that happens. (usually failed cooler lines) Anything I routinely needed to check fluid levels on is quite old at this point in time so I get why it isn't a thing anymore. And the tech (when it's actually there) is convenient. The BMW self burps the cooling system with the electric pump when you change the coolant. That's very nice!
It would be better if they started making coolant systems that didn't routinely self-destruct.
 

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That's all well and good if you have a TFT/Level sensor. Most I've seen don't. Fords oil pressure gauges are mostly an idiot light. :rolleyes:

My daily (not a Ford) doesn't burn oil. I check the level after an oil change and right before I am going to change it. There is a sensor that will illuminate a light if it gets low... though typically it's about too late if that happens. (usually failed cooler lines)
The F150 has transmission temp and oil pressure gauges

Found the Engineering Test Mode displays troubleshooting a battery issue. Didn’t know the truck had a BMS system. Certainly didn’t know I had access to most the CAN (sensor) data and DTCs

The Mazda gives me both oil pressure and temp along with a ton of other stuff. Have not played with it much as the vehicle is under warranty.

My daily (2008 Civic EX) is the only non-digital vehicle we own. Have an import repair shop a couple doors down from the office. Makes it easy to drop the car off for 5k oil changes. 235k so far
 

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The F150 has transmission temp and oil pressure gauges

Found the Engineering Test Mode displays troubleshooting a battery issue. Didn’t know the truck had a BMS system. Certainly didn’t know I had access to most the CAN (sensor) data and DTCs

The Mazda gives me both oil pressure and temp along with a ton of other stuff. Have not played with it much as the vehicle is under warranty.

My daily (2008 Civic EX) is the only non-digital vehicle we own. Have an import repair shop a couple doors down from the office. Makes it easy to drop the car off for 5k oil changes. 235k so far
Does it actually have a readout? Ours is L and H and is a fudged number sent to the dash... nothing else. There are numerical values accessible via the PCM data stream over the OBDII port though. The raptor/tremor on the 14th gen get the actual readout on the dash though.comparing the data stream to the dash it basically calls the entire operating range of temp/pressure about normal.

My truck has numerical data for TFT and oil pressure via the information center. The coolant temp gauge is real, just over dampened so that as long as its between 185 and 215 it'll read 195F. (I have one of those IDash like pods installed and monitor pressure/temps for all useful sensors normally.)
 

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I dug around and couldn’t find it. Looks like that bolt by the starter is where it should be. I’ve got some cleaning and tidying to do
 

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