Official 1st Trip, now need boat bodywork...

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Nico2112

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Re: Official 1st Trip, now need boat bodywork...

Glad to hear nobody got hurt:)

Sounds like you're being very reasonable and understanding, which means a good thing is coming your way!

If only...
We used to own a 14' Thunderbird cathedral hull bowrider. We still have it right now, but it's going to be taken away for inheritance/legal reasons. The people who are keeping the boat don't know sh*t about boating, and could careless about it. It's going to be sold for $2,000. It includes a seminole trailer (just fixed and pimped) and a Johnson Javelin V4 85HP. All in working condition. Hull is sound and very well taken care of. This was my inlaw's favourite boat!
If only...

Best of luck getting your boat either fixed or replaced.

Cheers!
 

Nandy

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Talked to him this evening and he is not pro fixing he boat. I told him I would be happy if he find me a hull that is similar in shape and in my size and he could get someone we both agree to rig it or give me $1800 and I will take care of all. I explain to him that it is very hard to find a hull that is decent for less than that as there is a reason someone sets a hull aside, generally they are no good. He said that if he send this to the insurance all the insurance is going to give me is the fair price minus the salvage price of the boat, then he went around to tell me how boating accidents are like 2 people that bumb each other car in walmart since nobody really got hurt...
He called me back and he said his insurance told him to ask me to do a claim. Then he went to tell me how the insurance will price my hull, etc, etc... and how the insurance would not include the value of my motor or any gear in it. He also point out how if it was going to be 500 or 600 dollars he would just write a check but something like 1500 or more he didn't think he would as he already pay insurance, why will he pay also out of pocket. I got a bit, let say, not so pleasant and gave him a good clean line up of my mind... Between it I told him literally that I did not want a cent from his money, he can either fix the boat or find me a hull that I agree is a good replacement. That if we go with the insurance route I would not take 500 or 600 dollars for the hull and just sat down. I told him a minute before he hit me I was way better of than that. Told him to think about it and give me call tonight or tomorrow and we can talk... He was really quick to get off the phone this time... I was so pissed im surprised I did not speak any Spanish...

I thought he was going to play nice... Wrong again... If i end up going the insurance route I am calling that warden and make the report so later I can take him to court. 600 dollars is not getting me a decent hull like I had unless a miracle happens. Im furious, most of anything because he knows what the right thing to do is but is too much money for him so he wont do it....
OMG, I'm pissed...
 

Mark_VTfisherman

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I would call the warden now... Since your goal is only to be made "whole" again I don't see anything immoral about utilizing our legal methods to procure justice. He should have done the right thing and gone to the insurance co to begin with IMO
 

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Id give him another call, and see what he has to say. And if it still sounds like he is going to try and screw you over, just before you hang up Id say well I think I'm going to give that cop I talked to a call, I was thinking of calling him anyways because my back and neck have been bothering me some recently, and he thought I should let him know if it did. And then tell him, I'll give him your number incase he has any questions for you.
 

Gary H NC

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Call the Warden you talked to now! I knew this guy was going to pull this crap!
Tell the warden your boat is a total loss and you would like a written report to take the guy to court.
And you are starting to have neck and back pain!! No Joke!!

This might wake that rich bass-turd up and he will make it right..

This is going to get me wound up! Time for the crew to pay a visit!..:cool:
 

Nandy

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Call the Warden you talked to now! I knew this guy was going to pull this crap!
Tell the warden your boat is a total loss and you would like a written report to take the guy to court.
And you are starting to have neck and back pain!! No Joke!!

This might wake that rich bass-turd up and he will make it right..

This is going to get me wound up! Time for the crew to pay a visit!..:cool:

What kills me is my coworker here at work. He is been telling me since Monday to call the officer and call a lawyer. I kept saying there is no need for that, he seems reasonable, he will make it right. Consultation is free I believe... that will be my second call after the warden. I just cant believe it cuz he does have the means to make it right and he knows what is right... I have no more consideration for him other than waiting until tomorrow for him to call me.
 

CBGale2

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He has the means to make this right, but he doesnt care, he's trying to run you over like he did your boat. Im sure he is just stringing you along hoping you just forget about the whole thing. Money is no object to him, but time may be. I think if you make it clear to him your going to be taking up alot of his time his story may change. Right now all he cares about is whats the least I have to spend to make her go away. What a jerk, sue his behind and make him humble.
 

Gary H NC

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He has the means to make this right, but he doesnt care, he's trying to run you over like he did your boat. Im sure he is just stringing you along hoping you just forget about the whole thing. Money is no object to him, but time may be. I think if you make it clear to him your going to be taking up alot of his time his story may change. Right now all he cares about is whats the least I have to spend to make her go away. What a jerk, sue his behind and make him humble.


Exactly!! 100% agree!! He endangered you and your family and destroyed your boat and all he is worried about is how cheap he can get off.
Call the Warden and a Lawyer!
Don't wait for him to call you.
 

ezmobee

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That really sucks. Unfortunately I am not at all surprised. Course I am the victim of a lady I hit with my car (my brake line burst) whom I did $400 worth of damage to her car and she managed to sue my insurance company for $50,000 and not work for over a year. This guy is an extra moron because if he wasn't originally planning on using his insurance then he sure as he!! shouldn't have called them. Does he not think that they will hold the fact that he admitted hitting someone against him whether or not they pay a claim?! I've heard that your homeowners insurance rates can go up if you even inquire about making a claim. Imagine telling your insurance you hit a family with your boat!!! Nandy the ball is totally in your court. Contact his insurance directly and make sure they know there was you and CHILDREN in the boat. Tell them what you want and I'll bet you'll see some quick action. In a situation like this they'd regard giving you a couple grand as getting off WAY easy.
 

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Im planning to consult a lawyer tomorrow. Im telling you, I really thought he will make it right but I bet he just want to tell his other rich friend how he screwed up that guy twice. I told him I was not sitting down and taken it and it is not just words... Boating is not supposed to be like this...
 

Nandy

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Got in touch with the officer and he won't be available to take my statement until Monday. He explained me the process and seems a bit slow but he thinks the guy is at fault but he made it clear that obviously he cannot guarantee me that will be the final ruling.
As far as lawyers, none of the one I called lasted longer that 2 minutes in the phone before telling me they won't take the case. There are not broken bones or blood anywhere so they are not even trying. One gave me the phone for the board so I can see if I can find a layer that way. I will try that later. Not as easy as many thought... Thanks for your support guys...
 

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Talked to the board. They have a 50 dollar fee before I can talk to a lawyer for a 30 min consultation.
 

rrhodes

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Contact the insurance company. In fact if you have insurance contact your agent and explain what happened. many times your company will cut you a check and then sue the other guys insurance company. They do this because they can add additional fees. You can request that they replace your boat with one of the same value.

You may also want to look up Lanier Marine in GA. They have a ton of cheap Hulls. Never know.
 

Nandy

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I checked lanier some time ago. They have so many complaints about them that is not funny... But it would be a option way, way back in my head.
The board called me back and told me to file the report with the warden, go to the doctor for my back discomfort and call them back after that. So this ill be my last update in the open board until something concrete happens that can be disclose. One more time, I appreciate the support of the board members.
Thanks!
 

n2ostroker

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Once the guy started putting you off that would have been the end of talking to him. I wouldn't discuss anything further with him. Just insurance, police, lawyers. Then he can talk with them. Watch your own butt and don't worry about his.
 

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I saw this nice Chris Craft getting off the no wake zone
You were in the wrong !!. You saw him and froze like a retard and didn't fore see what was going on. :mad: The bigger boat always has the right of way at least up here in NY they do.
 

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You were in the wrong !!. You saw him and froze like a retard and didn't fore see what was going on. :mad: The bigger boat always has the right of way at least up here in NY they do.

What? :confused:
 

Nandy

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You saw him and froze like a retard and didn't fore see what was going on.
1. You dont know where was he and where was I when he just crossed out of the no wake zone. I was to his starboard side at that time. You dont sound like you know the rules of the road.
2. The giveaway vessel is supposed to stay off the course of the standing vessel, in order to do that the giveaway vessel can alter it course, slowdown or stop. The standing vessel is supposed to continue it course and speed. If the standing vessel change course the new course should not put the vessel in a crashing course with the giveaway vessel. HE did not do that.

The bigger boat always has the right of way at least up here in NY they do.
3. That is not just in NY. But when they talk about a larger vessel they are talking about a vessel that the size impairs its navigation. Say a cruise, barge, so something like that. Being 6 feet larger than other vessel does not give you right of way.

You were in the wrong !!.
4. Even the other boater knows he is in the wrong. That is why he gave me his insurance information and asked me to do a claim. The NCWRC also believes the other boater is responsible.

You are 4 times the retard looks to me...

Moderators, I will appreciate if you lock this thread. I will make a new one once we have a resolution.
Thanks.
 

H8tank

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Sure would like to get the other side of the story... sure seems some info is missing.

And screw the evil rich guy? Really? This is how it is?

Who didn't have insurance? Why would a person not have insurance? Cause they felt what they were insuring wasn't worth it?

Whose 'old' boat with cosmetic damage only whose owner now has a hurt neck is shopping lawyers?

Wish you the best, but life sucks. Don't waste you time chasing a pot of gold.
 

smclear

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First and foremost, I'm glad everyone is OK. That is truly the only important thing.

Now, Rule #1 is you must do everything in your power to avoid a collision, even if that means breaking a "rule of the road".

It doesn't sound to me like the other guy did this.

Second, and I'm not sure how this affects anything, but putting your boat in neutral does not mean you were stopped (even with no forward movement). Unless you are anchored or tied to a dock/pier, you are considered to be underway.

I sure hope this works out for you. It sounds as though the guy made some genuine statements that he would make things right. Then, when he determined the true cost of doing so, he is now trying to back out of it. I think you're doing the right thing getting the law and lawyers involved. Good luck.
 
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