Owner does not have Title in Hands

Pez Vela

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Re: Owner does not have Title in Hands

Not sure how to interpret your response. Are you saying the seller is actually a thief, or that he's honest and doesn't like the insinuation that he is a thief?? Or maybe even that he is a thief and doesn't want to get busted?

Humor. What? No good?
 

jonesg

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If you give him cash without the title in hand you are asking for trouble. Would not do it no way no how...

Ditto, when the seller gets the title "at a later date" you will buy the boat.

It can be a real runaround, I had to do it and it costs money for you to get a new title issued compared to the previous owner doing it.

Once you buy it all bets are off.
You've bin warned, not that anything like that stopped me...:D
 

ENSIGN

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Re: Owner does not have Title in Hands

Get The Title First !!!!
 

AZBoatDreamer

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I gave him those deadlines knowing he is not going to meet them in time.
I got tired of him giving me the run around about the information he promised to provide. My wife kept telling "she already doesn't like the seller" by all the stories he was giving me.

I'm Happy to report that I'm now a Proud owner of a 1996 20' Glastron bow rider 5.7 V8 Volvo Penta. The sea trial went very well. With months of research on Iboats I was well prepared from first inspection to sea trial. The seller of the boat commented on how detailed I was with all the inspections. I went through the boat top and bottom. All documentation was in order including recent maintenance records.

The Kingman Seller can just kiss my back side.

You people and Iboats are the best.

Happy Boating.
 

AZBoatDreamer

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To the comments about boats are money Pits and not an investments. Im not totally new to boats.

Im not surprised. This is an investment in my family to have fun and get my kids away video games crap.

I have a special reserve bank account that I will be making deposits into from time to time for maintenance and repairs. This is like owning an airplane. Have reserve funds for that next engine over haul and repairs.
 

woosterken

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Az,
now all you need is to invest in a camera :) lets us see what ya got
for us poor folks under 3 or 4 foot of global warming :(

woosterken
 

bob johnson

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Re: Owner does not have Title in Hands

I want to sell you something...... something, anything!!!

next time you want to buy something...please PM me...Ill sell it to you!!!! ha ha ha ha

I am SURE, i have stuff you REALLY NEED!! ha ha


seriously...good luck hope you stay happy....

PS: dont let that boat fill up with snow in the winter.....people here dont like that!! ha ha ha

bob
 

Mike Robinson

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Congrats AZ!

Good to hear things worked out for you.
 

JoLin

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Re: Owner does not have Title in Hands

I gave him those deadlines knowing he is not going to meet them in time.
I got tired of him giving me the run around about the information he promised to provide. My wife kept telling "she already doesn't like the seller" by all the stories he was giving me.

I'm Happy to report that I'm now a Proud owner of a 1996 20' Glastron bow rider 5.7 V8 Volvo Penta. The sea trial went very well. With months of research on Iboats I was well prepared from first inspection to sea trial. The seller of the boat commented on how detailed I was with all the inspections. I went through the boat top and bottom. All documentation was in order including recent maintenance records.

The Kingman Seller can just kiss my back side.

You people and Iboats are the best.

Happy Boating.

Really glad this worked out for you. Sounds like a great rig for a small family to get out in. Best of luck!
 

AZBoatDreamer

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Just got home with the family from the lake today. It was a picture perfect AZ winter. I think it was in the low 70's and cloudless. I had to use some sun tan loation or this would have been my red face. :mad:
Any way every thing went very well first time out with my wife and kids.
 

cribber

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AZ that's just wrong!!! We never got out of the 40s here in central Florida!!! Hope ya had a blast out on the water today with the family!!!
 

jay_merrill

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I was out in my boat today too! Not exactly 70 here today, but not a bad day!

While we are talking about this issue, there is another scenario that sometimes comes up - that of a seller with current papers, but you know something just doesn't "compute" about them.

I recently passed on a boat, because of this. It was a clone of an 18' Boston Whaler Outrage. It looked just like the BW, but was missing a few things that the Whalers have, plus it had a 20" transom and Whaler never made an 18' Outrage with anything other than a 25" transom. The boat made me so curious, that I called BW twice to get info. They had no idea what the boat is, but based on my description, said that it wasn't a BW.

The seller told me that it is a Seasport and has a current registration with that info on it. The HIN begins with SSB, which is the correct identifier for a Seasport. The problem is that the HIN looks like it has been altered and I can find no information at all, suggesting that Seasport ever made a Whaler clone. Further, there are a number of manufacturers who have made clones of the old Whaler Montauk hulls, but I have never seen one of the Outrage hulls.

In this case, I don't believe that the current seller knows that the boat is bogus. This case is not one of feeling like the guy is trying to pull one over on me. What I believe happened, is that he unwittingly bought a stolen boat and/or a boat that someone built from a mold of a real Outrage hull.

My philosophy is that walking away from a boat that has obvious or apparent paperwork problems, is generally a good idea. There are just too many headaches that can come up later. This is especially true in a case like yours, where a seller was obviously trying to "buffalo" you, in regard to the paperwork.



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Don S

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Re: Owner does not have Title in Hands

Head over to the IO forum and look at the stickies, lots of things you are going to need to know about your Volvo IO ........... BEFORE it breaks.
 

MTribe08

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I'm Happy to report that I'm now a Proud owner of a 1996 20' Glastron bow rider 5.7 V8 Volvo Penta. The sea trial went very well. With months of research on Iboats I was well prepared from first inspection to sea trial. The seller of the boat commented on how detailed I was with all the inspections. I went through the boat top and bottom. All documentation was in order including recent maintenance records.

Nice!! Glad you found a good one! Where was in advertised? Craigslist? Pretty much the same boat as I have, but you have me by a year. I think you'll really like the size/Power ratio..ours does great when pulling.

Did you get a good deal?
We need some pics!
 

AZBoatDreamer

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Nice!! Glad you found a good one! Where was in advertised? Craigslist? Pretty much the same boat as I have, but you have me by a year. I think you'll really like the size/Power ratio..ours does great when pulling.

Did you get a good deal?
We need some pics!
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I found it on Craigslist. It has loads of power for all the Water Sports. We had fun at Saguro yesterday. There was a nice Boat fire at the Dock. Very Sad to see a nice restored Day cruiser go down in flames.

I got a fair deal on the boat but not a killer deal. The boat is in terrific condition. Picts to follow.
 

cr2k

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Pig in a Poke, Pig in a Poke.

I would at least do a water trial. Or at very least run in driveway.

Don't want to buy someones cracked block.

Another option is to give him one check "down" and another post dated check that you can stop payment on if you find trouble or don't get title.

That way he has the funds if all is OK.

And get some good paperwork signed and maybe notarized stating terms (pending or otherwise) of sale AND penalties to be assessed for default.

My dad did this on the first boat we ever bought way back in 1967. The boat sounded good in the driveway (but hey what did we know), but 2nd trip out blew a piston. My dad gave him 1/2 down and postdated the other half. The sellers lawyer decided the seller should pay at least 1/2 of the overhaul after WE showed him the agreement that the seller tried to keep from his own lawyer.

Sticky situation, could be completely on the up and up, but Buyer Beware!

I hope the best for you.
 

AZBoatDreamer

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\Sticky situation, could be completely on the up and up, but Buyer Beware!

I hope the best for you.

Thank you for all the comments.

I didn't buy the boat that started this thread mess. I didnt even get to look at it.

I have bought another boat with all paper work in order.
 

AZBoatDreamer

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Look at the AZ Blue Skies. It was in the low 70's today.
 

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