POINTER94
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Re: Question about GW Bush and Global Warming
As is typical with the hate filled left, they fail to see any point except their own. As shallow and self serving as it is. They have destroyed a large amount of drinking water in CA, but fail to comment. They have dumped billions of gallons of sewerage into lake michigan and not a word spoke. The fly in California is a perfect example of usurping private property rights, yet they focus on an errant caviate about whether this is indiginious or not. I pulled my list off the top of my head. As for the fly, it gets worse, they can't pick up trash in the area cuz thats where they breed. This is what you get when liberals apply their 2 dimmensional thinking to law.<br /><br /> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938277/posts <br /><br />I have to question our little friends motives. (I only googled two of your examples. I took the time and in 60 seconds typed in Hemet CA, Fly and got all kinds of information. All that was extracted was it was indiginous? Failure to address the premise of example in the context presented was of course lost. But it took an hour for a response.) And what kind of an clown "jokes" about calling people nazi's or a racist. A zealot? Someone not right in the head? Funny how PW and Woodrat and others of differing opinions have been here for years without "joking" with such venom and hate. Trying to equate my referring to a mindset as whacko and calling me a racist personally is of course disgusting. And certainly not on day one. Some people are all about telling others what they should do and think. Unless it inconveniences them, like the windmill farm in Teddy Kennedy's little vaction spot. Or when they hop in their private jets to fly around and make speeches on why we should be driving Yugos. They apply junk science and hate in measured amounts to get their way. As is typical they just can't keep their eye on the ball. The ends justify the means and addressing emotion is far easier than addressing facts. <br />But facts are facts:<br /><br /> How Protecting a Fly Hurt the Sick<br />U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service bureaucrats have held up construction of a hospital in Southern California and threatened county officials with heavy fines and arrests -- all in the name of saving the Delhi Sands flower-loving fly.<br /><br />In 1992, less than 24 hours before San Bernardino County was to begin construction of the hospital, the U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed the fly as an endangered species and demanded that the county set aside the entire 68-acre hospital site as a preserve for eight flies known to live on the property.<br /><br />Moreover, the USFWS sought to shut down traffic on heavily-traveled Interstate 10 nearby in August and September when the flies emerge from underground and live for about two weeks. <br />The county agreed to relocate the hospital -- which is now about a year behind schedule in construction -- set aside ten acres for the eight flies, and fund biological and behavioral studies. <br />It has already spent $4.5 million to accommodate the flies. <br />In addition, an agency official threatened to prosecute the county if it improved an intersection near the hospital -- unless it bought yet another fly preserve at a cost of up to $1.5 million. <br />A U. S. district court judge found in favor of the USFWS, and the agency also wants to set aside 300 acres of mostly private property in an economically distressed area to protect other populations of the Delhi Sands flower-loving fly.<br /><br />Source: Ike C. Sugg (Competitive Enterprise Institute), "Flies Before People", Wall Street Journal, February 11, 1997.<br /><br />But having to address the consequences of extreme left wing lunacy is something they are loath to do. And using the courts works only if you get nuts of like mind on the bench. But stopping the construction of a hospital for 8 flies may seem perfectly natural to some on the left. But as I subscribe to the substance over emotion method here's the case.<br /><br /> http://home.sandiego.edu/~jminan/waterlaw/National.html <br /><br />The fact that, as usual, treaties like kyoto are more social policy than environmental, means nothing to agenda driven automatons. And based on the enviromentalists track record we are to take any and all theories as gospel. This would be retarded and shows the contempt and arrogance they have for our country, our rights, and our common sense. We have found the enemy and they are us. <br /><br />Does this mean that all their contentions are wrong. Nope. It means that we need to look at their proposals with a sharp eye. It is incumbant on us to look at all sides and the ramifications, motives, and all potential outcomes before entering into any rights limiting legislation. And when something doesn't add up, like say their THEORY of global warming, it isn't illogical to be skeptical of their science, motives and outcomes. And if you examine their remedies, it is consistant with the far lefts socialistic/communistic model. It is scary how cavilier people can be when playing with others rights. The extreme left has shown total disregard for our most basic rights. Therefor diligance should rule the day.
As is typical with the hate filled left, they fail to see any point except their own. As shallow and self serving as it is. They have destroyed a large amount of drinking water in CA, but fail to comment. They have dumped billions of gallons of sewerage into lake michigan and not a word spoke. The fly in California is a perfect example of usurping private property rights, yet they focus on an errant caviate about whether this is indiginious or not. I pulled my list off the top of my head. As for the fly, it gets worse, they can't pick up trash in the area cuz thats where they breed. This is what you get when liberals apply their 2 dimmensional thinking to law.<br /><br /> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938277/posts <br /><br />I have to question our little friends motives. (I only googled two of your examples. I took the time and in 60 seconds typed in Hemet CA, Fly and got all kinds of information. All that was extracted was it was indiginous? Failure to address the premise of example in the context presented was of course lost. But it took an hour for a response.) And what kind of an clown "jokes" about calling people nazi's or a racist. A zealot? Someone not right in the head? Funny how PW and Woodrat and others of differing opinions have been here for years without "joking" with such venom and hate. Trying to equate my referring to a mindset as whacko and calling me a racist personally is of course disgusting. And certainly not on day one. Some people are all about telling others what they should do and think. Unless it inconveniences them, like the windmill farm in Teddy Kennedy's little vaction spot. Or when they hop in their private jets to fly around and make speeches on why we should be driving Yugos. They apply junk science and hate in measured amounts to get their way. As is typical they just can't keep their eye on the ball. The ends justify the means and addressing emotion is far easier than addressing facts. <br />But facts are facts:<br /><br /> How Protecting a Fly Hurt the Sick<br />U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service bureaucrats have held up construction of a hospital in Southern California and threatened county officials with heavy fines and arrests -- all in the name of saving the Delhi Sands flower-loving fly.<br /><br />In 1992, less than 24 hours before San Bernardino County was to begin construction of the hospital, the U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service listed the fly as an endangered species and demanded that the county set aside the entire 68-acre hospital site as a preserve for eight flies known to live on the property.<br /><br />Moreover, the USFWS sought to shut down traffic on heavily-traveled Interstate 10 nearby in August and September when the flies emerge from underground and live for about two weeks. <br />The county agreed to relocate the hospital -- which is now about a year behind schedule in construction -- set aside ten acres for the eight flies, and fund biological and behavioral studies. <br />It has already spent $4.5 million to accommodate the flies. <br />In addition, an agency official threatened to prosecute the county if it improved an intersection near the hospital -- unless it bought yet another fly preserve at a cost of up to $1.5 million. <br />A U. S. district court judge found in favor of the USFWS, and the agency also wants to set aside 300 acres of mostly private property in an economically distressed area to protect other populations of the Delhi Sands flower-loving fly.<br /><br />Source: Ike C. Sugg (Competitive Enterprise Institute), "Flies Before People", Wall Street Journal, February 11, 1997.<br /><br />But having to address the consequences of extreme left wing lunacy is something they are loath to do. And using the courts works only if you get nuts of like mind on the bench. But stopping the construction of a hospital for 8 flies may seem perfectly natural to some on the left. But as I subscribe to the substance over emotion method here's the case.<br /><br /> http://home.sandiego.edu/~jminan/waterlaw/National.html <br /><br />The fact that, as usual, treaties like kyoto are more social policy than environmental, means nothing to agenda driven automatons. And based on the enviromentalists track record we are to take any and all theories as gospel. This would be retarded and shows the contempt and arrogance they have for our country, our rights, and our common sense. We have found the enemy and they are us. <br /><br />Does this mean that all their contentions are wrong. Nope. It means that we need to look at their proposals with a sharp eye. It is incumbant on us to look at all sides and the ramifications, motives, and all potential outcomes before entering into any rights limiting legislation. And when something doesn't add up, like say their THEORY of global warming, it isn't illogical to be skeptical of their science, motives and outcomes. And if you examine their remedies, it is consistant with the far lefts socialistic/communistic model. It is scary how cavilier people can be when playing with others rights. The extreme left has shown total disregard for our most basic rights. Therefor diligance should rule the day.
