Restore 1988 Bayliner Capri SKI

[eavdic10]

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Ok guys I decided to give this thing a shot. What I found out from Bayliner it is a 1989 Bayliner Capri SKI usually comes with 125HP engine but this one has 150HP. I noted the engine serial number still have to look up the year. Did check the compression and I get 130 in 4 and 120 in 1 cylinder so that makes me happy at least that works

I have attached more pictures of the ripping out progress I made today because I want to know what I am dealing with. It seems that the transom is ok from at least what 2 drill test could confirm. I also checked stringers and there is 4 of them in the main part of the boat under the seats and all 4 of them had yellow clean wood shavings when I drilled into them. However the stringers on the front part (Bow) of the boat are rotten the two main ones are so I will definatley have to replace them. Also what I found out is that someone was patching them up and was reinforcing them with 1x4s but did not do a prop job and sealing and fiberglassing them so they rotted as well. It also seems that someone replaced the foam at least under the seats is not wet I did a pvc pipe test and comes out dry ( stupid question here, if I wanted to take that foam out and create space for coolers etc under the seats would that be a very very bad idea?) Is there somewhere else where I need to test the foam?.

So for now I know 100% that the stringers in the front (BOW) have to be replaced and boxes for seats remade. The deck has to be replaced and I am planning not leaving a ski storage in the middle but rather cover the whole thing up for support but am thinking of taking out the foam from under the seats and creating storage there. What do you guys think. Please let me know if I missed anything else. I am pretty handy and I rather do it right the first time.

Also where is the best place to buy supplies , (Resin, fiberglass, Plywood I am thinking Home depot )..

 

[eavdic10]

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@ woodonglass, i drilled in the main parts of the boat not all the way back by the transom If you check the pictures out maybe that will make more sense. Are you talking about stringers below the ski compartment. Not sure what is under there,,, should I check that too? I guess I don't understand how the boat was designed I checked the stringers that are under the seats. There is no cracks or rot on the second deck if that is what you call it where the ski compartment is.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Your stingers are at the Ski locker level, down at the bottom of the foam. Stringers touch the bottom of your hull so think about how far down you have to go to get to that level.

 

[eavdic10]

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is that I took a PVC pipe and stuck it down to the hull. Now I did this to the foam under the seats!!! then I bent it a little and took a sample out I made Sure I was all the way down and the foam came out all dry when you press it basically turns into dust. In the pictures one is wood and one is foam. Now Here is a stupid question. I should not do anything below the ski locker level correct? there is no stringers under that correct? they go sideways to the hull and I have two on each side. What I did to those is I drilled a hole vertically into the stringer maybe 1 inch the most and that is it. Should I have done that differently/

 

[ezmobee]

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Also where is the best place to buy supplies , (Resin, fiberglass, Plywood I am thinking Home depot )..

Look for Arauco plywood at Lowes. Glassin' supplies are better ordered online. You don't want the resin they sell in the home centers. U.S. Composites is a forum-favorite.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Maybe this will help. The Red circles indicate your stringers they are the sides of your ski locker and extend from the transom all the way to the bow. The Red line indicates where there is probably a crossmember sometimes called a bulkhead. there may or may not be others. Bottom line you need to get to this level to see the condition of the stringers for your boat The bottom of the stringers attach directly to the hull until you can see the hull you have seen the hull you have not seen your stringers.

 

[jbcurt00]

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WOG red circles? Pix?

 

[eavdic10]

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@ Woodonglass, I know exactly what you are talking about they run along the boat and there is 4 of them on this one on the main part of the boat. I have drilled the holes vertically into the stringers and have left the foam in there because it was dry. I assumed that the stringers would be ok if the foam is ok? Does that make sense? or should I remove the foam and check stringers from the side.?

 

[Woodonglass]

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WOG red circles? Pix?

Sorry, pics posted now

 

[Decker83]

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Nope. No pics yet WOG.

 

[Woodonglass]

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You can't see the pic in post #46

 

[jbcurt00]

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Sorry, pics posted now

Thanks! I thought I was missing the red somehow..... I checked the OP's pix 3 times trying to find them:facepalm:

 

[Decker83]

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I See them I see them oh boy I see them now. (LOL)

 

[j_k_bisson]

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I'm sorry for the late arrival. But have you confimed the motor is good. Have you done a compression check on it? If you haven't then you will want to. Those motors are known to break rings very easily. Any slight difference(8 or more psi) in the numbers could indicate a broken ring. Then this project is not worth it. That motor will cost anywhere around 1000-2000 for a rebuild.

Check it out before you spend anymore......

 

[Woodonglass]

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I'm sorry for the late arrival. But have you confimed the motor is good. Have you done a compression check on it? If you haven't then you will want to. Those motors are known to break rings very easily. Any slight difference(8 or more psi) in the numbers could indicate a broken ring. Then this project is not worth it. That motor will cost anywhere around 1000-2000 for a rebuild.

Check it out before you spend anymore......

JK
I guess you missed post #41

 

[sjohnson44]

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From what I have seen reading resto posts and looking at resto pics. The floor is always rotted around the locker door.

I once was in the same dilemma, to keep the locker or not. I chose replace locker with a plastic door with seals around its edge. IE.,http://www.ebay.com/itm/40019441976...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_3357wt_1344

The extra storage will come in handy, and you dont want to install one later. I'm installing one back just for insurance. Its there when/if I need it.

 

[j_k_bisson]

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JK
I guess you missed post #41

Yep I missed that one. Sorry

I'd take that head off really quick can check for broken rings on those cylinders. 10 PSI soon turns to 15-20 when those rings are on their way out. I know from experience. Whats $40 for a head gasket? You'll know for sure what you truely have. I would hate to get done the amount of work you are going to have to put into this to find out in the ned that the motor is in need of a rebuild.

Just my two sense. Hope it helps......

 

[eavdic10]

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Will do that thank you much...however I have a 1991 bayliner with 70 HP with 3 cylinders and compression has been off by 15 PSI the last 4 years. But will look into that thank you much. I will continue with the project and will update you guys tomorrow. THanks much.

 

[oops!]

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View attachment 130389View attachment 130390View attachment 130391 is that I took a PVC pipe and stuck it down to the hull. Now I did this to the foam under the seats!!! then I bent it a little and took a sample out I made Sure I was all the way down and the foam came out all dry when you press it basically turns into dust. In the pictures one is wood and one is foam. Now Here is a stupid question. I should not do anything below the ski locker level correct? there is no stringers under that correct? they go sideways to the hull and I have two on each side. What I did to those is I drilled a hole vertically into the stringer maybe 1 inch the most and that is it. Should I have done that differently/

hi bud....

the above post has me a little concerned.

you are doing a great job at investigating the boat.....and your perseverance in digging in to it is great.

i just think you need a little more boat building education.
iboats dry dock is famous, and called boat university. the best thing you can do right now is just put the project on hold for a day or two and read read read.

click the link in my sig......it is the most comprehensive discussion on fiberglass boat building on the site.
the pictures will show you exactly how your boat is built. the first 16 pages will bring you up to speed in just an hour or two.

while there are nuances between different boat manufacturers, the basics are all the same.....even aluminium boats are built the same way.

the place to check your stringers for rot is at the base of the stringer, and the farther back you go towards the transom, and the transom it self. the more likely you will find rot.
the foam should be checked for water near the back of the boat. under the splash well, on the out side of the stringers (out side of the bilge area).

you asked about making some storage under the seat bases. thats not the best spot, for a few different reasons. the best place, is under the bow seating. some bayliners had them, some didnt. access is very easy. and they are simple to make, with minimal structural intrusion.

let us know what you find .....

and keep up the good work bud

cheers
oops

 

[ricohman]

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I'm no boat resto expert, but I have read many threads on this and I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night....
With all the rot and mold that is present I wouldn't be concerned about where to stop cutting that rotten crap out as I would remove all of it. No sense in doing a job like this halfway. Even if you have dry rotted stringers it will still be a shame to rebuild the boat around them.
If your going to invest such a large amount of labor, whats another few hours to get it right?