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tashasdaddy

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Re: Rich jerks.

guys, alot of it is the way, and attitude in how you say it. if the guy wants to be a jerk about just walk away. If he persists, smack him in the back of the neck with a paddle.
 

Thajeffski

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Sometimes ya should just mind yer own business.

I always power load just like the site admin says he does.

Idle or a little above right onto the trailer. If someone came and told me that, I'd say "thanks but this is how I do it"

I'm sure he knew. And this is always such a big topic here, but more than half of the boaters I see do it my way so whatever..
 

tashasdaddy

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there is a big difference, in POWER LOADING and idle loading.

it is fine to idle you boat up on your trailer. BUT, when you have a lousy trailer set up, and are not deep enough in the water, does not give you the right to destroy the ramp.

i see so many people come up to the trailer, then GUN the throttle, it gets 1/2 way up, so he OPENS it up, all he is doing is washing the base out from under the ramp.

he will then be the first to complain, because the ramp is not maintained.
 

coolguy147

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yes there is a big difference in powerloading and idle loading. the trucks tires didnt touched the water. he need to back the truck in maybe 6-10 inches more down.

even though it was probably only for 2 sec then a 1 sec short high blast. 225hp can do a lot of damage.

ok yes it was nosey and ignorant. he didnt have to go and mock me back.
 

triumphrick

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In our shallow lakes, and trust me, they are getting shallower, powerloading creates shallow water dams just past the ramp. The overall effect is to create an area just past the ramp that has built up and restricts launching 'cause it's too damn shallow.

This is how the state of Florida views this practice...this is from MyFWC.com.

"Since the mid-1950's, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) has built boat ramps in the State that are available to the boating public free of charge. Most sites are open 24 hours a day.

The Commission currently maintains approximately 200 access sites which represents approximately 25% of all the State's freshwater ramps. Due to the public need for access, the Commission staffs a full-time crew to handle construction and repair.

Power loading has caused many of the State's ramps to age prematurely. Early ramps were not built to handle the prop wash caused by power loading. Many ramps have been undermined by prop wash and collapsed. Also a sediment berm or delta is formed waterward of the ramp by power loaders and can block boater access to adjacent waters during low water periods. New ramp designs are utilized by the Commission to reduce damage caused by power loading. However, it is preferable not to race your engine while loading"

Thanks, coolguy for doing your part. There will always be a few bad apples to spoil it for others....
 

noworries79

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You did the right thing cool guy. I bet if you were 40 or 50 years old and 200+ lbs. those guys wouldn't mock you. It should be satisfying to know that you got to them like that, enough for them to mock you.

I understand what your saying waterinthefuel, there are crazy loons everywhere and it's good to be careful although I can get road rage sometimes:D. It's not like the guy told him off, he gave a suggestion. They can do what they want with that comment.

Maybe we should start a new thread about boatramp etiquette. I'm sure we all have many stories!

Good fishing!
 

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Idle loading causes damage too, why not just walk it right up your trailer? I have a fairly large 4500lb. boat and I solo launch and retrieve a lot.o need to even idle load it if your trailer is setup right.
Once again, and this is just my opinion, it comes down to laziness.
 

Thajeffski

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Idle loading causes damage too, why not just walk it right up your trailer? I have a fairly large 4500lb. boat and I solo launch and retrieve a lot.o need to even idle load it if your trailer is setup right.
Once again, and this is just my opinion, it comes down to laziness.

Or the fact that it's a 3 second thing when done properly...

:) Call me lazy all you want....I just don't see why someone wouldn't do it.
 

triumphrick

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Or the fact that it's a 3 second thing when done properly...

:) Call me lazy all you want....I just don't see why someone wouldn't do it.

Your laziness reflects in the fact you can't read..or don't want to. Will post again for the mentally challenged...

"Since the mid-1950's, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) has built boat ramps in the State that are available to the boating public free of charge. Most sites are open 24 hours a day.

The Commission currently maintains approximately 200 access sites which represents approximately 25% of all the State's freshwater ramps. Due to the public need for access, the Commission staffs a full-time crew to handle construction and repair.

Power loading has caused many of the State's ramps to age prematurely. Early ramps were not built to handle the prop wash caused by power loading. Many ramps have been undermined by prop wash and collapsed. Also a sediment berm or delta is formed waterward of the ramp by power loaders and can block boater access to adjacent waters during low water periods. New ramp designs are utilized by the Commission to reduce damage caused by power loading. However, it is preferable not to race your engine while loading"
 

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even IF idle loading did damage. it is very minimal and the lake can recover very quickly. idle loading is the same back the boat off the trailer and idling into the area of launching.
 

waterinthefuel

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Powerloading a boat is not operating in a wreckless manner and I challenge any DWF agent to challenge that in front of a judge. To call it wreckless operation is a joke at best, I hope you were joking, Greg.

Anyone could make a case that coasting up to the trailer and then using engine power does less damage than ramming it onto the trailer at idle (my dads bass boat idles at about 8mph and he could easily find a fiberglass expert to testify that hitting a trailer at half that speed can damage the gel coatg and every boater has a right to launch their boat and retrieve it in a manner that will not damage the hull. Public lakes are just that, if you pay money to launch then you should be able to launch in any way you wish short of being a danger to the public. No boat trailer can be set up perfectly for every ramp grade. So powerloading becomes mandatory in some circumstances. To call it lazy or a poor trailer setup is hilarious.
 

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Or the fact that it's a 3 second thing when done properly...

:) Call me lazy all you want....I just don't see why someone wouldn't do it.

And I just don't see why someone WOULD do it;)

It's just my opinion, I don't expect you to listen to me, no matter how reasonable I am. :D
 

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I personally never power load. Correct trailer set up and water depth basically does it all for you.
Coolguy you did good :):):)
 

Huron Angler

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I'm gonna have to jump back in here and agree with skargo...I've fished on a 24' walk-around Seaswirl quite a bit that weighs in the neighborhood of 6-7,000lbs or more when fueled up and fully geared up with downriggers and two outboards.

Never once power loaded the boat or remotely needed to in the last 7 yerars. We even use a manual crank winch since miracles of physics allow for the boat to float right in. People that powerload are looked at as ignorant, foolish and destructive.

I'm totally baffled by some folks' inability to understand that you float the boat on the trailer much like it floats on the lake.:confused:

I've yet to hear an excuse for powerloading(at idle or otherwise) that doesn't boil down to pure laziness.

Glad to see that 90% of the comments agree with cool and JB:)
 

tashasdaddy

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i idle on for one reason. anyone ever handle a 20 ft pontoon, by yourself.
 

coolguy147

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idle loading is basically like floating the boat right on the trailer?

hey if i had a sail boat i would defiantely power load or even with a canoe! STROKE,STROKE,STROKE,STROKE,STROKE!!
 
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