Sticky rings??

[reeldutch]

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i got the permatex from a guy who does rebuilding for a livving he bored and honed my block. he always uses the anearobic permatex<br />item 51813<br /> i do trust him<br />he is close to 65 and he has seen it all.<br /><br />reeldutch.

 

[Hotrods]

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Im thinking you used the Permatex® Anaerobic Flange Sealant. Here Thats the right stuff.. not the<br />Permatex® Anaerobic Gasket Maker. Here<br /><br />But I could be wrong.

 

[Hotrods]

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OK....Block half installed per specs. But I really need some help here.....<br /><br />The screws that hold the half on.. including the 6 large allen key screws where torqd to 60-84 in-lbs. that seemed really loose . then I torqd the main bearing screws.. the 4 that hold the bearing 0n the cover plate to 18-20 ft-lbs.. I stripped one screw and am afraid to go any furthur on the other 3. now that seems like alot!! Does all this sound correct?? <br />I can get a new screw for the main bearing ..no big deal I didn't hurt the threads in the bearing case.. ANy thoughts??

 

[Hooty]

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Torque upper and lower crankcase head screws<br />6-8 ft/lbs.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty

 

[Hotrods]

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The 18-20 ft-lbs ..are they the correct bolts?

 

[Dhadley]

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Those 4 ss screws -- did you put a new seal on each one?

 

[reeldutch]

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i used the permatex anearobic gasket maker 51813 witch is exactly the same stuf as loctite 518.<br /><br />i would trow out those 4 bolds and buy 4 new ones with new 0 rings.hophely you didn't damage ore bend the retainingplate including the ballbearing and seal. <br />i putted a new seal in the lowercrankcase cover.<br />because they are famous for failure, wich will cause damage on the lower ball bearings.<br />my mechanic told me also to put a little tiny drop of gelseal on the 4 retaining bolds before sliding the o rings on .<br /><br />you didn't pay 75 dollars for the decals right?<br />because i dont want to spent that much on decals.<br /><br /> reeldutch

 

[Hotrods]

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OK the 18-20 ft-lbs are the 6 large allen bolts inside the block half tey call them the main bearing bolts. My marine supply hooked me up with 4 new ss bolts for the one I stripped. <br /> No harm done.<br /><br />Yea I did pay 75$ for the new decals.

 

[reeldutch]

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i must say they look great but i don't think i will spend that much for decals.<br /><br />today i tried to get new exhaust cover bolts.<br />the mechanic told me he didnt have them but i could cet the bolds from the hardware store.<br />he told me there an 1 1/2 X 1/4"20 treath stainless steel.<br />i need 18 of those he said and one is a little longer bud he didnt know how long.<br />the long one that sits inside the watercover i still have.<br />This is a bubbleback exhaust.<br />if somebody knows the size off the bolds i'm sure<br />hotrod would apreciate that too.<br /><br />reeldutch<br /><br />how far are you now hotrod?<br />i have the bypas covers on and the cylinderheads.<br />tomorow the exaust and may be the intake.<br />then i think i'm ready to bold it back on the moter. i cant wait to start to rebuild the carbs.<br />i got the kits already

 

[Hotrods]

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I picked up my cover bolts at my marine supply.<br />$3.50 a pop.. I bought 6 the others where fine.<br />The only thing left for me is drop the PW on, install intake/reeds, rebuild carbs and install..wireing etc.....ALOT!<br /><br />Question... My manual said.. "apply a thin coat of omc gaskets sealant to each side of the head gasket", as I was applying it...I applied it over a sentence that read....DO NOT USE SEALENT well it was too late so i finished it up and put it on.. the other head I didn't use it..<br /><br />What NOW?

 

[reeldutch]

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the cylinderheadgaskets that i got are impregnated and dont need gasket sealer.<br />my powerhead base gasket to adapter is also impregnated and doesnt need gasket sealer.<br />i dont think you got a problem.<br />as long as you torqet them down in the right sequence.<br />is your 93 a bubbleback also?<br /><br />reeldutch

 

[Hotrods]

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Yup.. Bubble back. <br /> PS: The bolt for the cover.. the longer one is a 1/2" longer. JFYI

 

[reeldutch]

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thanks hotrod,<br /><br />i will bold them on today.<br />are you going to time the motor yourself and how are you going to do that?<br />because i was thinking to bring it to the mechanick so he can set the timing.<br />but is somebody can explain how i can do it myself i will be happy to do so.<br />i know that you have to set the timing under load<br />right??<br />i dont have a test tank and test wheel and a small barrel the say will not do the job.<br /><br />reeldutch

 

[Hotrods]

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The wrench at my marine supply said ."as long as I didn't move the set screw linkage I should be fine. I will check it tho.. Not worrying about it just yet . but that will be after I get help putting back all my "UNMARKED" vac lines..<br /><br />OBJ or anyone else...Your thoughts on me using gasket seal on the head gasket?

 

[Dhadley]

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OMC Gasket Sealer is fine, in fact I'd recommend it. Thats whats impregnated into the gasket. There are some sealers that react unfavorably but youre OK.<br /><br />You might make 100 posts on this thread yet...........<br /><br />Good luck!

 

[Hotrods]

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Thanks Dhad,,<br /><br />And I Would be S>O>L without this thread and all my new found buddies!!!lol.. You must admit.. there is some great info in this baby

 

[reeldutch]

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yes its great to have a forum like this.<br />hotrod let me know when you are ready to fire up.<br />where in new jersy do you boat??<br />i fish the southshore of long island<br />i will post a few pictures of the outboard when its ready. there are still old pictures you can see right here.<br /> http://groups.msn.com/outboardpictures <br />reeldutch

 

[Dhadley]

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Dont you two guys go running into each other (literally)!!

 

[Hotrods]

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Im in central Jersey.. I Head north out Barneget Inlet. I can't wait. it's just the long hot hours at work ( UNION Capenter) holding me back a tad. gunna see if I can get some freinds to help me lift the PW on tonight.. then I'll pick away at her. get her running. install my new T-TOP. and off I go.. I'm lookin at getting her wet next Saturday.

 

[reeldutch]

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i hear you,<br /><br />i am a baker and since i got my sun last febr i only work 4 days a week.(lucky me)<br />so i can watch the baby.<br />so im sitting in the house 3 days wrenching in the basement with the babyphone and the clymers manual next to me. haha.<br />tonight i have to start at 2:30Am and i wil be home at 1130 cleaning the carbs.<br />is there any good cleaning solvent i should use?<br />or just pick it up from the automotive shop?<br /><br />oh i sprayed some fogging oil down the holes and the compresion seems to get more even.<br />im not so worried about it.<br />its just that i put so much time and money in it.<br />cant wait to hear that thing roaring.<br /><br />reeldutch