Sticky rings??

[reeldutch]

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i only had spark on 3 cylinders and i could not figure it out either but check the plugs that come from the powerpack that go to the coils the connections on mine were not so sparky enymore after i changed it wham i got crispy spark again.<br />tomorow i will give it a serious try.<br />i just have to hook up the vro pump(disconected)<br />primer and all the linkage and i think i can fire her up.<br />will let u know tomorow<br /><br />reeldutch.

 

[Hotrods]

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found a spark tester, battery dead will recharge and test

 

[OBJ]

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Sorry I skipped out on ya' hotrod....I'm working mids and I went to bed....couldn't see anymore.<br /><br />Don't know what kind of spark tester ya' found but if you can set the gap on it, set it to at least 7/16". The spark should be a strong think lighting like spark. Each cylinder should have the same.

 

[Hotrods]

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I used a plug tester light, held on wire I do have spark on all 4. My connection were pritty dirty. I cleaned them up but dont know if that did anything. the light looked kinda dim but put it on my truck running and it looked the same,.. need to get battery charged and see what happens. will clean the plugs on take it from there.

 

[Hotrods]

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OK...cleaned all contacts and plugs,, switched from 6 gallon tank that sat out in the rain to boat tank... Bam!!! she fired up! with alot of work with the choke and throttle. Ran at high idle on it's own..2000 rpm sounded good but would start to bogg and then die...can restart her by primming ball and hitting choke key. but she will not just fire up, it takes alot. worked on her for more than an hour to try and see what it takes to get her started and i coudnlt figure it out, seems like I did have to hit the primer ball everytime after she died, but when she started to die hitting the ball did not help.. but once started i could not keep her running for more than 1 minute or so. <br /><br />Will read over manual tonight and see what I can find, will get new plugs in the am.. It was really nice to at least see her run she went from a piece of block on my back porch to a running motor.. It is a happy feeling as far as I got..<br /><br />Any suggestions on where to start<br /><br />And no out to the bar after work OBJ,, you got some work here!!!<br /><br />Really need to check the timimg but Im having a hard time understanding link and synch TDC and timing. <br /><br />Edit..think I can handle the link and synch..but do I really have to have the piston stop tool, ive read I do I watch the pistong hit TDC both times and it lands right on the TDC mark on the fly wheel

 

[OBJ]

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Just some things to double check hotrod.....<br /><br />All fuel line connections are tight and no kinks.<br />Fuel tank is vented.<br />Did ya' rebuild the carbs???? Don't remember if you did or not. This should be a part of any rebuild.<br />Did you reconnect the VRO pump oil side or are you running premix?<br />The motor side of the VRO pump, it is connected to the block via the pulse limiter isn't it?<br />Is the primer solenoid red lever pointed to the bottom of the solenoid? This is normal running position. If it's up, you could be flooding the engine.<br />If all the above is good, you could have a sync and link problem here. The procedure can be a pain to understand the first 50 times or so...

 

[Hotrods]

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Originally posted by OBJ:<br /> Just some things to double check hotrod.....<br /><br />All fuel line connections are tight and no kinks.<br />Fuel tank is vented.<br /><br /> Will double check that in the am <br /><br />Did ya' rebuild the carbs???? Don't remember if you did or not. This should be a part of any rebuild.<br /><br /> Yes I did problem free I hope <br /><br />Did you reconnect the VRO pump oil side or are you running premix?<br /><br /> premix and that harness was left unplugged, I am seeing i have no power to the fuel pump, but I know that was unplugged for premix<br /> <br />The motor side of the VRO pump, it is connected to the block via the pulse limiter isn't it?<br /><br /> Dont understand that Question? <br /><br />Is the primer solenoid red lever pointed to the bottom of the solenoid? This is normal running position. If it's up, you could be flooding the engine.<br /><br /> It is down facing the solenoid. <br /><br />If all the above is good, you could have a sync and link problem here. The procedure can be a pain to understand the first 50 times or so...

What about the piston stop tool do I really need it?

 

[bubbakat]

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if you want to hotrod make you one like this.<br />

<br /> <br /><br />A spark tester.<br /> web page

 

[Hotrods]

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That looks like a piston stop tool, the web page tkes me to a spark tester. the stop tool is what I need i think.<br /><br />correct me if im wrong but the tool only makes it so the piston stops at the same point each time. so i could use anything that im able to gauge or measure at the piston.

 

[bubbakat]

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The piston stop tool is made out of a spark plug and all thread rod and a wing nut.<br />Take the center porcelain out and thread the rod in and use wing nut to adjust and hold in place.

 

[Hotrods]

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I will do the link and synk in the AM, along with what OBJ said. Im getting there, thanks again guys for stinking with me!!!<br /><br />I'll tell yu when she was running at 2000rpm she ran SWEET!!!!!

 

[OBJ]

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Hotrod.....the forward diaphram chamber of the pump is the "motor" end. It works off the press/vac created in the block from the #3 piston going up and down. On the bottom of the "motor" end is a nipple that connects to the block via hose. Somewhere in this connection should be a pulse limiter. It's either screwed into the block or it's between two pieces of hose hose. Blue end should face towards the pump.

 

[Hotrods]

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HUmm...Im thinking the hose not connected to the bottom carb would make her run alittle strange,,,,yu think!!!...lol How nice it was to see that!! I know I put it on it must have fell off during installation. Just seen it, will reattach and see what happens.. but you would think id have gas all over when i hit the prim bulb??<br /><br />EDIT>> ok it is the fuel pump hose that attaches to the block as you said OBJ.. it got pushed down when I installed the cover/ Im trying to pry it now.. and wow did notice there is a missing hose on the "front of the fuel pump.. I feal like a "TOOL"... I'll let yu's know

 

[Hotrods]

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Well, hooked up the fuel pump hose.. turned the key. and this is what happened!!!!!<br /><br /> RIGHT CLICK HERE AND SELECT SAVE TARGET AS/THEN SAVE TO DESKTOP

 

[Hotrods]

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Well as I see it this thread is over. 125+ post I can't begin to tell you guys how much i appreate your help.. <br /> Ezeke for making me pull the head gasket!!<br /> OB. for getting me started in the right direction.<br /><br /> Alcan,ledgefinder.JonYahn,Alanr1,Jonyahn,Hooty,Gdane, <br />for all your insight and motivation.<br /><br /> Dhadley for all your insight<br /><br /> Realdutch and Bubbakat for you continued concern in my endeavor.<br /><br /> <br /><br />If I missed anyone please forgive me this thread is like a small book.<br /><br />And last and surely not least OBJ > for everything you have done, you took control over this problem and took it right to completion, I can almost tear up.(maybe I am)!!!!hotrod wipes eyes!!<br /><br />I OWE YOU, dang I may even name my boat after you.. somewhere on her will be OBJ!!!!<br /><br />Well im just fine tunning the wires and getting everything battened up. I have a few other small issues with the boat and will be posting and a new topic later. I will be taking her out weather permitting soon for a good break in. I will post my results here. But once again <br /><br />THANK YOU ALL!!!<br /><br /><br />Rod

 

[reeldutch]

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i fired her up today and she run very good.<br />i just will play a litle with the linkage but i will defentely let my mechanic time this baby.<br /><br />i had a litle problem with the primer but that will be easy to solve.<br />when i heard her purring she sounded strong without any hesatation.<br /><br />hotrod it was surely great to do this project and iboats forum made it a little easier.<br />i will keep u guys informed.<br />after the fishing season is over i will swap the 110 for my freshly rebuild 115 and bring her to the shop to get timed.<br />next season i will break her in.<br /><br />good luck hotrod great job.<br />wats next????<br />my brother in law has a 115 tower of power<br />witch has one low comp cylinder.<br />i can have the moter for free.<br />shall i????<br /><br />reeldutch

 

[OBJ]

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I didn't see the pictures but from all the acolades, you must have got it running. I got the site but didn't know what to do next.... <br /><br />You did all the work Hotrod. The guys and me where just here to help. Enjoy the fruits of yer' labor......and.....a few Longneck Buds' in honor of iboats wouldn't hurt either......

<br /><br />Treat her right and she'll be good to you. Great job Hotrod......keep us posted with any problems.<br /><br />Naw....ya' don't wanna put my name on yer boat.....put the better halfs name on it. It'll help keep ya' outta trouble.....

 

[flech01]

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obj just right click on the link and select save as and save to desktop.

 

[flech01]

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[Hotrods]

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Originally posted by hotrod007:<br /> Well, hooked up the fuel pump hose.. turned the key. and this is what happened!!!!!<br /><br /> RIGHT CLICK HERE AND SELECT SAVE TARGET AS/THEN SAVE TO DESKTOP