Stringer Pushing through bottom of Boat?

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Robj

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If Tracker wasn't smart enough to start communicating better with baineyg, knowing he was posting on this site, I doubt they had the smarts to try to plant some positive feedbackers. Way too little, way too late. I have to admit Tony's post made me suspicious but after re-reading it I think he's just trying to help bainey through this.

I deifinitely don`t think Tony is planted by Tracker. He is just sharing his experience.

Have a great day,

Rob.
 

BamaAlum97

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So, anyone find it interesting that on Mar 12th cbvaier sent an e-mail to tracker including the link to this thread then sometime in Mar iboats has two new forum members both covertly defending Tracker and stressing bainegy "remain patient" with Tracker and BPS?

AJ

You caught me...I am really a Tahoe plant cleaverly diguised as a boater from Oklahoma...

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
 

BamaAlum97

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not really sure "who" the posters are....but......

im not defending taho, but read ondarvrs post......he right....its gonna take a while......the boat may not even be at taho yet.....and if it is...its gonna sit there till they have their guys look at it..(and ill bet they have a few in line)....then there has to be a report made up...then it goes up the chain till a desision is made......once it has been made internally.....then...and only then will bainey get notified......

so from the time he handed the boat to them...till all that happens...he wont know anything....it seems like a long time to us....but wheels turn slow in a bigger company.

i think tony's earlier posts were good news for bainey...an inside look at the process and the remedy

Amen oops!...it is a fact of the corporate world, that nothing happens quickly.
 
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The bottom line for me is having all that money tied up in a boat and not be able to use it for months and months. Im afraid the boating season will be over before he gets to enjoy it again. I CRY UNFAIR,and shame shame on the ones who are making him wait.
 

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OK, I guess I stirred this controversy up so let me try to defuse it - it really doesn't matter who is doing what in this thread ... or not, What matters is what Tahoe does now that they have the boat, and it matters how long it takes them to do it. If they are smart, the first thing they will do is to communicate directly with the owner and give him some idea of their review process, and how long it will take them. They don't even have to tell him how the will remedy the situation until they know - just make a plan, give a timeline and stick to it. In the meantime, they could apologize for the fact that he can't use his $25,000 boat and give a gift certificate for their retail stores. A little goodwill tends to go a long way and since Baineyg has been more forgiving about this than some would be, he will probably report that nice treatment here. That said, nice words and gifts only placate for so long .... in the end its about action and deeds.
 

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OK, I guess I stirred this controversy up so let me try to defuse it - it really doesn't matter who is doing what in this thread ... or not, What matters is what Tahoe does now that they have the boat, and it matters how long it takes them to do it. If they are smart, the first thing they will do is to communicate directly with the owner and give him some idea of their review process, and how long it will take them. They don't even have to tell him how the will remedy the situation until they know - just make a plan, give a timeline and stick to it. In the meantime, they could apologize for the fact that he can't use his $25,000 boat and give a gift certificate for their retail stores. A little goodwill tends to go a long way and since Baineyg has been more forgiving about this than some would be, he will probably report that nice treatment here. That said, nice words and gifts only placate for so long .... in the end its about action and deeds.

Yea i agree totaly !!! and at least they need to contact him !!!! John
 

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Been following along just gotta say, I own a service company and if I treated my clients this way I wouldn't be worried about my weight, I'd be worried about my next meal!! :eek:
 

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There's always a couple of lines of thought when it comes to a situation like this. Tracker can be dragging their feet hoping that he'll get fed up with the process and settle for less, or they are mired in so many problems, it's going to take a while to get to his boat to give him an answer.

If the second is true, then they have been dropping the ball by not keeping in contact with him in some sort of way. I mean, if a guy selling a wicket on Ebay can give me a tracking number the day after I pay for it, and I can track it online until it's reached my front door, they can certainly keep him updated either via email ( you know they have it in this day and age! ) or by phone. There should be someone on their end that is in charge of claims, and it's his job to keep the customer service up.

At the very least, the entire process for this claim should have been laid at his BainyG's feet before they even said they are going to take the boat back to the factory. You tell a guy that they have a very detailed process and moving a boat like this back and forth isn't a fast task, please be patient with us, we'll let you know when we receive the boat and when we plan to start our inspection.....a guy is going to be a lot more forgiving than if he's left in the dark wondering what the heck is going on.

Tracker has standard operating procedures for this kind of thing...they have to. The problem I'm seeing in this thread is a simple lack of communication, period. The company has to cover it's ***(ets) and do a proper evaluation and process the claim in a smart manner. That much would make sense. On the flip side, if you are going to tell a customer that they will probably be without a boat for the season because of this, then you need to lay out the options, or at least offer some. If he's on a payment plan, then I'd say at the very least, the number of months he's without the boat get taken off the loan. Otherwise, he's offered a different boat or a way to opt out of the purchase because any way you look at it, they are probably out the boat at this point anyway and are going to end up handing over another hull unless they can prove wrong doing and the customer being at fault for the damage.

Most likely, the nature of the damage is what is going to slow the process down. It isn't like the gel coat cracked over the surface of the boat, or the hull developed blisters. Physical damage makes pointing blame at the manufacture of the boat difficult as to where the finger gets pointed at.

I deal with hardwood floors for a living, and you'd be surprised at how often I get blamed for damage to a floor that I couldn't have possibly caused, or get sent out to look at a floor with a defect in it that was caused due to something outside our control. I had one in particular, when you stepped on the floor by the fridge, it would move down, but only in that particular spot. After a little bit of measuring I determined that out of pure luck ( albeit bad ), the linear joint between the two boards lined up right with the joint in the subfloor, which spanned two joists. The effect ended up being the floor literally hinged at that point when pressure was applied to it. Not much could be done about it other than shoring up the subfloor from underneath, or just leave it be with the understanding that that was the cause for the movement. Sometimes you just shrug your shoulders...what can you do at that point? Things can sometimes conspire against you unwittingly!
 

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Thanks gentlemen...I assure you, I am in no way affiliated with BPS or Tracker since about August of last year. I was only trying to offer my experience in how this is going to work. After the boat left BPS, within a day or two it arrived at Tracker in Miami, OK. Within the next day or two they will look at the boat and try to determine what happened. Next they will try to decide if it is repairable. After that the decision will be made to repair or replace. Then it could sit there a few days to a week until they can arrange transportation. Bainey may hear something soon, or he may not. Tracker isnt good in communicating back to the store with what progress has been made. The more patient Bainey can be, the happier he will be. As with any large company, its all paperwork. And paperwork moves very slowly up a chain. There is nothing you can , just be as patient as possible. I know its not easy, but youll be on the water before you know it and all this crap will all be in your wake...

Tony
 

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Wow! It's like they were reading this forum. I just received a voice mail from tracker marine (the factory). They said my boat will be complete in Mid May. Short answer, don't know if it's being fixed or replaced but at least I do have a timeline. That would be nice to go boating for Memorial Day weekend.
I didn't take the call direct because couldn't get service. Took my 10 year old son to the Colorado River (below Hoover Dam) for some old fashion shore fishing. We each limited out on rainbow trout.
Thanks again for everyone's input on this. I'll be sure to post as soon as I hear more.
 

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Wow! It's like they were reading this forum. I just received a voice mail from tracker marine (the factory). They said my boat will be complete in Mid May. Short answer, don't know if it's being fixed or replaced but at least I do have a timeline. That would be nice to go boating for Memorial Day weekend.
I didn't take the call direct because couldn't get service. Took my 10 year old son to the Colorado River (below Hoover Dam) for some old fashion shore fishing. We each limited out on rainbow trout.
Thanks again for everyone's input on this. I'll be sure to post as soon as I hear more.

Glad to hear it. Hopefully this extended story will have a happy ending after all.

Have a great day,

Rob.
 

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atta go bainey.....

you might want to give them a call and find out what there going to do?

repair or replace the hull...
 

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Replaced or perfectly repaired (hoping), may you have nothing but good luck and good times with it!
 

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Wow! It's like they were reading this forum. I just received a voice mail from tracker marine (the factory). They said my boat will be complete in Mid May. Short answer, don't know if it's being fixed or replaced but at least I do have a timeline. That would be nice to go boating for Memorial Day weekend.
I didn't take the call direct because couldn't get service. Took my 10 year old son to the Colorado River (below Hoover Dam) for some old fashion shore fishing. We each limited out on rainbow trout.
Thanks again for everyone's input on this. I'll be sure to post as soon as I hear more.

Voice mail is crap, but I have been following this thread, and hope they make you whole.
 

redfury

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Light at the end of the tunnel?
 

JustJason

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No light...
You need to call and talk to someone... You need to get their first and last name... and direct phone ##. You need to get them to make you a promise, and to stick to it.
Mid may might as well be mid june.
 

jay_merrill

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Yup, a call back to them is in order. Get the name, phone number and address of the person handling the matter. Then promptly send them a certified letter, return receipt, informing them that repair of this hull is not an acceptable solution. Ask them to inform you of their intentions once they have inspected the boat.
 

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Its all good as long as they are not going to give you back that same hull! You could not expect to be getting that back. I would not take it back. You have pictures of what happened to that hull and that can happen anywhere. If it was that weak then stringers pushing out could lead to something pushing inward cause of bad glass. I mean if its bad in all those spots then there has to be more spots thats bad that did not yet fail. Its only a matter of time if you get back the same hull. And i would think that it would cost them more to repair that hull than just give you a new one! Then have to gell the whole thing again and there is a lot involved!!!!
 

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Its all good as long as they are not going to give you back that same hull! You could not expect to be getting that back. I would not take it back. You have pictures of what happened to that hull and that can happen anywhere. If it was that weak then stringers pushing out could lead to something pushing inward cause of bad glass. I mean if its bad in all those spots then there has to be more spots thats bad that did not yet fail. Its only a matter of time if you get back the same hull. And i would think that it would cost them more to repair that hull than just give you a new one! Then have to gell the whole thing again and there is a lot involved!!!!

Bainey I wish you the best and am happy that Tahoe has given you the news they are taking care of you. I agree with the above. No repair! At the minimum a new hull. You should be able to tell because the HINN should be different on a new hull. If they choose to only repair the old hull (one year old). I either would have it surveyed or I would trade the boat in on another boat. NOT TAHOE! But give then a chance to make it right. There seem to be quite a few happy Tahoe owners out there. Again keep us posted and hopefully this issue will come to a happy ending!
 
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