the 1967 Holiday 18 and Multiple Boat Syndrome

[Deadwood]

Re: the 1967 Holiday 18 and Multiple Boat Syndrome

and it was either motor noises or start working on a mast and keel setup.

Mast???

http://oregoncoast.craigslist.org/boa/3128635344.html

 

[barato2]

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Dozer--yah, i agree. and i'm so anal that i'll sit and look at an irrevocable step for hours, putting off starting it for fear i'll screw it up. a little "disinhibition" helps a lot with steeling yourself to cut those curved floor sections etc

Don-- no espere man, the Chrysler is coming back. it's just resting against a tree right now; it's not used to drinking that ethanol. no real planning on floor layout, just dropping things in and seeing what looks right/functional. that location for the console seems to work as i can reach all 4 rod holders in 1 step or less. i'll try to post pix later today that show it from above. no go on underfloor tankage as Moeller discontinued only size that works for an 18', so i will have the plastic exact-size replacement for the original under the splashwell, and another in the bow, size/shape to be determined. pretty intimidating when i think about the cost of filling 37 gallons of tankage......

since fuel usage is going to be so critical for me when i'm retired and broke (and for purposes of getting back to shore...), i sprung a non-bottom-feederish $270 on a Floscan fuel usage gauge (GPH and total fuel used since reset). Faria makes one for $60 less that would match my other instruments perfectly but it has VERY negative reviews from users and a high failure rate, whereas everyone who has a floscan likes it. but it will be the ugly duckling in my dash.

 

[InMotion]

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B2 --- Just getting caught back up!!! Looks great man... really rockin' and rollin'!!! Your floor looks good enough to go skating on --- smooth as glass!

Keep the wheels turnin'!!

J.

 

[barato2]

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thanks! i think it's actually too glossy and will scuff it up with 60 or 100 grit before i try to stick down the Nautolex.

for Don-- here are a few pix of the cockpit showing interior room

the answer to my Q on new gasket for fuel fiuller turned out to be the same as that to many of my Qs: ACE HARDWARE. found a gasket that works perfectly and looks good, for $1.49....i think it was for either a tub or the connection between toilet tank n bowl. only the finest in toilet parts for my Starcraft!!

 

[barato2]

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are the pix in previous post showing up for y'all? problems with both iboats and fotobuk this morn.

a few more:
test fitting the Big Honking Mexican-marina Anode

the answer to the Q of how to route my shifter/throttle cables from side of console to beneath floor and have it look sano--cut down rod holder

while poking around in the garage, i found a hunk of 5/16" 6061T6 that is almost perfect shape and size to reinforce the exterior transom wood.....just have to grind two corners slightly

 

[64osby]

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b2 - floors looking good.

Watch your plumbing gasket, it only likes certain kinds of gas.

Here is what the factory did for control cables / wires.

 

[GA_Boater]

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B2 - I guess you can say your tank is plumbed. Toilet parts, indeed. LOL Hey, what ever works.

I have to start trying the local hardware stores, The big boxes are lacking. I need to find a hardware store like the one in the town I grew up in. Filled with dusty shelves and never could find anything. Ask for help and they walked you down in the far dark recesses and grab exactly what you needed. Really helpful for weird inventions. They built a brand new store and darned if they didn't move all the dust too.

A tip that may or may not be helpful. If you use some more plumbing supplies, PVC pipe and fittings to be exact, under the floor you have a nice chase to run electrics and cables. You can build it water tight in case water comes over the sides and the foam will stay drier. Also makes pulling/replacing much easier. Run the pipe from the CC to under the splashwell. Just a thought.

The Mariday or is it a Holiner is looking good. Keep making motorboat sounds, it helps brighten that light at the end of the tunnel. And all the pics are coming through.

 

[barato2]

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Osby---thanks for pic. always helps to see how the factory did it. the reason i'm thinking of routing em outside the console and straight down into the floor is to avoid cutting any holes in my til-now-waterproof console and more importantly, cuz i want to eventually put dual control levers on top of console so i can operate kicker from helm. i figure when i do that, i can put an aluminum cap over the floor hole. and i agree that gasket likely won't like any volatile hydrocarbons, gas or otherwise. figured i could get away with it since i'm replacing my filler hose so i shouldn't even have fume leakage out to where the gasket is.

GA---already stole this idea from someone. i have a hunk of 1.5" NM conduit under the floor, to be attached to stringer with loops of the old tiedown strap (don't trust it to hold boat on trailer due to sun rot, but it should still be overkill for supporting conduit) and brought up through floor on both ends with 90 degree bends cut down to roughly flush with floor level. electrics will run inside this one fore and aft from console, steering cable will be tied to it and hung from straps, and shifter/throttle cables will route down the opposite (port side) stringer inside another piece of sch40, albeit just water pipe this time. the info i'd run acros suggests making a drain hole rather than trying to keep conduit watertight....any thoughts there?

a couple more pix:
the completed dash cover....still need to add the trim piece in center to hide the join line

holes for deck plates are cut

(i got a deal on fleebay on a 5 pack of these a few years back so had these 3 lying around)

wasn't having any luck finding 5" straight rollers so i had to cut down 12" one....a new 18T hacksaw blade did great job, cut like buttah

while i was cutting the holes, figured i might as well take off the last 3/32 along the edge of floor panels....the edge of the 45 degree taper was so thin it was easy to splinter when fitting.

why you should bother walking over to the garage to use the hydraulic press instead of just trying to straighten the trailer bunk brackets with a BFH:

hoping i can salvage this piece, not just due to $ but cuz the new ones are no doubt far flimsier gauge metal

 

[barato2]

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i got a used swim step with my $650 engine-donor glasser but 1) it's from an I/O and designed for different transom shape and 2) it obviously wasn't up to the supersized previous occupants as one of the brackets tore halfway loose from the tube.

after looking at pix of I/O and OB swim steps in Defender catalog, i realized main diff was the OB versions replace one of the side supports that go UP to transom with one that goes DOWN to transom from step. this works out well, as the obvious answer is to cut off the buggered support

and add an old motorcycle handgrip to end of tube for hand grip and to avoid gouging self on tube end

then make a bracket out of 2" L-channel for transom and a support from same stuff, then bolt to existing ladder-attachment bolts

Voila! for minimal $, a nasty old swim platform that will look poopy on the poop deck and drag down the alrready-marginal value of my boat further......

 

[kfa4303]

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LOL !!!!!! well said sir! I love it personally. Maybe not the prettiest set up, but as long as it works it works. Keep up the DIY awesomeness. Next set of pics need to be action shots of the platform in action on the water!

 

[GA_Boater]

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B2 - Ya already had the PVC aced. I wasn't thinking so much keeping the floor water tight as not having any more holes in the floor allowing excess water underneath. If water did get in the pipe and nowhere to go it might end up stinky and stagnant. Maybe seal the ends as good as you can and drill some drain holes in the pipe to just let water out.

Keep the weight challenged off the swim platform and it should be OK.

why you should bother walking over to the garage to use the hydraulic press instead of just trying to straighten the trailer bunk brackets with a BFH:

Because you already had a cold beer. Jeez!

 

[64osby]

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electrics will run inside this one fore and aft from console, steering cable will be tied to it and hung from straps, and shifter/throttle cables will route down the opposite (port side) stringer inside another piece of sch40,​

What happens if you have to replace the cable?

Maybe use another 1" - 1 1/2" tube strapped to the other one. Just thinking out loud

 

[FishNmemories]

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B2, you have been busy
-the wood trim/console detail work looks great
-the floor looks awesome
-the reinforcing woodwork for bow cleat is excellent
-epoxying guard dog to transom so no one steals Starcraft boat.... perhaps just using some locks instead will do the job just as good

Rusty

 

[barato2]

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Rusty--thanks. but the only way that dog would inhibit theft is by adding his 90 lbs to what they have to drag off, or the thief tripping over him. my wife calls him "Tope", which is a Mexican speed bump that will launch your car if you hit it too fast

Because you already had a cold beer. Jeez! hey, BFH goes with beer almost as well as potato chips.....

here's a pic of the conduit installed along the stringers, with the crossbracing i added to tie stringers together

realized after i did all this that the crossbraces are kinda stupid as the 3/4 ply floors will tie stringers together just fine and tie em to outboard edge of ribs once they're down. oh well, won't hurt anything. conduit is cut too long so i can shorten it to length when i get exact placing of console worked out.

GA, my plan was basically what you're thinking there....i plan to bring the rear end of counduit up under splashwell and front under console, sort of like a tunnel under the US-Mexico border, so both ends are in "dry" area.

Osby, i think i may be doing it like the factory after all....won't work to run cables along the outboard edge of port side stringer so i will just route em into console and then down like your boat has. i wasn't being clear on cabling.....throttle/shifter will live in black conduit along port stringer in pic, and steering will be routed inside black nylon straps that support grey elec conduit along starboard stringer. so both should be accessible to change when needed, esp with the 3 deck plates giving me underflooor access. but thanks for pointing that out.....the sort of stuff i don't always think about when i'mm full of my own brilliant design ideas

 

[64osby]

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looks good b2. Tubes are look great.

The factory chase is about 4" wide 3" deep and runs to the bilge. Everything in one, I know several of my wires are twisted up under the deck. I ran a double length string to try and ease the process if more wires need to be pulled. Separating them is a great idea.

The wires to the front nav light and horn run to the rear then under the gunwale to the front. ??

I like the cross braces gives more stability. Might even consider adding a couple where your deck pieces will mate. That would eliminate any chance of deflection between the two.

I hope the tunnel reference isn't from personal experience.

 

[barato2]

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I hope the tunnel reference isn't from personal experience.

of course it is. you think the govt would willingly let me into the country? fake IDs in Juarez were getting too pricey and would have taken $ from the boat resto budget. practicing for when this place gets too intolerable and i have to dig another one north to Canada.......

what i think i'll do for deck section joints is screw some of the scrap 3/4" in place as backers and toss the factory alum strips....nother idea i stole from someone on here more creative than i.

 

[GA_Boater]

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We're thinking in the same solar system on the tunnels, B2. I've looked at some new CCs and the tunnel ends are flush with the flooring, which I didn't think was a good idea. It's just feeding the aliens living under the decking, esp. in a glasser.

If you ever dig the tunnel norf don't forget to bring Arctic gear. I heard it's frigid up there 11 months of the year. On a positive note, they never have warm cerveza.

EDIT - I did the backer thing on my floor. I only had 1 AL strip that was very holy, bless it's soul, after at least one PT floor job so I used the the ply backers and it more solid than with the strip.

 

[64osby]

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If the weather here stays like it has been, something I heard years ago will come true.

In 2050 Michigan will be growing oranges. If this is true I will be in Canada with you. Send the tunnel location please.

 

[barato2]

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GA--

did you make the backers full width minus stringers, or just between the stringers?

Osby--
you just prompted me to also install a few pieces of 65# spectra in the conduit along with the wiring, for use as fish tape in case i want to add stuff. thanks.

guess i just acquired a another tinnie. freind bought deisel pusher motorhome and his wife wants the old travel trailer gone, so he offered it to me for free. should be fun trying to tow it home with the Taco.....i think it's about 25-30'. i may end up borrowing his F250.

 

[CheapboatKev]

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Hola Amigo!
Just thought I'd check back in..I see you have been really busy there at the hacienda!
Now that I am semi rested and coherent, I will get back to my SS this weekend hopefully.
Keep up the work, you evil fabricating genious