Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

[sprintst]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Just think about cruising around with the peace of mind of having a bone dry transom...

The most fun I had was cruising around in a car that I rebuilt...I knew every bolt in that thing

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Just think about cruising around with the peace of mind of having a bone dry transom...

Thanks sprintst,
That's exactly what I am thinking about. I may be working slow but it will be right when it's finished, Thanks to all the folks here on Iboats.
Have fun
Bob

 

[lowkee]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Question: I noticed that the drain hole is about 1" off the bottom, Which means that if water gets in at least some of it will not drain. Should I lower it to the bottom during the rebuild or leave it the way it is? What does everyone think?
Thanks for any idea's.
Bob

Looking good so far, Bob. Your transom looks identical to mine. We both got lucky only replacing that small bit. Glassing it is a bit of a challenge with all of the curves, but as long as you tear the mat at each angle change you will be fine.

Back to the question at hand. My drain hole was the same height as yours (genius boat makers, eh?). When you replace the transom wood, make sure to drill the drain hole at an angle, so you get as close to flush with the keel as possible. Any amount it is hovering above the keel I 'raised' to the hole by building up an area just before it with filler.

As a tip on cutting the new transom hole.. get and print out a template. I have a PDF of one linked in my resto thread (page 5-ish?). You will be shocked how off that factory one is. The template will help you align and drill the bolt holes as well. If you have a drill press, I'd recommend using that, as the closer to 90 degrees the better for the bold holes. I waited until it was all mounted and sealed and regretted it, since I had no way to determine true 90 degrees offset using a hand drill.

The transom makes for some great glassing practice since you can do it all on your bench prior to mounting it. You'll find dealing with resin and glass is oodles better than grinding. So stick out the grinding and it'll be a nice casual stroll for the rest of the project. It'll even be relaxing quite often.

Glad you finished off the 10 steps of denial.. that means you got to the most important step.. beer

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey lowkee,
Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to go back and read your thread again. I do have a good drill press but I'm not sure it's deep enough to get all the hole, I need to check that yet tonight.
Ok for the rest of the story I did get some work completed today. I put on the wonderful snowman suit, goggles, and respirator.
I really don't know what the big deal is about grinding, I kinda enjoyed it. NOT.
I spent most of the day grinding with a 60 grit flapper. Tons of fun. I also made a lot of dust.
I'm still trying to clean up the excess resin that looks like someone just poured it in.
That flush cut saw works great for removing most of the big chunks and then smooth it out with the flapper.
I got the transom ground down and a little less then half the rest of the hull.
I still need to go around the edge and clean up where the deck was attached to the side walls.
Here's a pic of what I got completed today.

 

[system-f]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Wow that looks very clean. It does look like you lucked on the transom.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks,
I did get lucky with that transom.
Now I'm on hold again till late Saturday, Out of town for TD with the family.
Bob

 

[archbuilder]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey Bob, Looks like you are off to a great start! Thanks for the info on the foam, that always seems to be up for debate. You are the first one I have seen that has thrown in the "skin" issue into consideration. Makes a lot of sense if you think about it!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey archbuilder,
Your welcome, Glad to help in any little way possible.
Good luck with your project.
Bob

 

[vegasphotoman]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

looking might fine now Bob

make sure and remember to wipe it all down with acetone before ya glass anything...


Happy Thanksgiving!! safe travels!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks Vegas,
I still have some grinding to do before finished.
Thanks, I will make sure to wipe down with acetone before glass too.

I hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving Holiday too.
Bob

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hey everyone.
Got home last night had to head back out today. I'm now back in west TN. Oh well, still got to pay the bills.
The only thing I got done today was make the Template for the transom and the Engine mount. Well I at least got something done.
I have been reading a lot, and all of folks seem to be moving right along.
Keep it up.
Bob

 

[199q]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Looking good! I am excited to see your progress on this. I have a similar boat so I will be paying close attention to your boat. I also have the stepped transom, however mine is all rotted.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

199q,
Thanks for the interest. Sorry to hear you have to replace the whole thing. I got off lucky just doing the center.
My rebuild will be slow but I will enjoy having others watching and inputting their thoughts.
I hope to pick up the ply this week with the resin.
Your boat does look a lot like mine. Good luck with your rebuild.
Bob

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Well folks,
I still out of town and not able to work on the boat.
I did manage to get to a local store here in West TN and picked up the plywood and had it cut to the general size I need. I'll keep it in my apartment till I go home. I should be able to get the grinding completed, wiped down with acetone and fit the transom.
Then I'll be on the way back.
Bob

 

[archbuilder]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Keep it up Bob! Can't wait for some pics!

 

[vegasphotoman]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Hi Bob

doesnt look so timid to me...you're tearin it up!

glad you're making bacon....that comes 1rst!

 

[sprintst]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Ditto on the not so timid anymore

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks for the comments. Your right about that, I'm not as timid. That's a lot of Thanks to all of you.

I need some assistance now.
I plan to set the transom and perhaps bead the stringers in next weekend.
I have managed to confuse myself in all my reading.
What would all of you consider the best way to set the stringers.
1. PL
2. 3M 4200
3. 3M 5200
4. PB made from resin/wood flour. The wood flour is free from My woodworking hobby.
What do you think. Looking for all your recommendations.
Thanks
Bob

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Bob it seams I have read everything you have ever posted but missed your thread somehow. Great looking project and your tearing it up. I would definitely move the drain hole down. Im moving my gas fill hole for a less important reason. Where in Tn do you go? I used to live in Nashville, Cookeville, and Clarkesville. Im sure Nashville has all the supplies you need last time we went to see the wifes family I even saw a propshop there. I wish we had one of them here. Its nice to see another project getting done and sometimes I think your slower pace may be better because you can think of what you are going to do instead of just doing it and then regretting not thinking it thru.

 

[thrillhouse700]

Re: Timid but determined Glasstream restoration

Thanks for the comments. Your right about that, I'm not as timid. That's a lot of Thanks to all of you.

I need some assistance now.
I plan to set the transom and perhaps bead the stringers in next weekend.
I have managed to confuse myself in all my reading.
What would all of you consider the best way to set the stringers.
1. PL
2. 3M 4200
3. 3M 5200
4. PB made from resin/wood flour. The wood flour is free from My woodworking hobby.
What do you think. Looking for all your recommendations.
Thanks
Bob

You can use any of those, but your best bet would be PL. Remember this is my opinion so anyone can chime in at any time and tell me im wrong.

3m 5200 or 4200 are pricey, waterproof and pretty permanent, problem is if your stringer is encased in glass you don't need the 5200, if your stringer is NOT encased in glass then encase it in glass haha.
5200 runs 11-12 at HD.

PB in my opinion is more of a filler. We dropped a chunk of it and it cracked, it is very strong however, just more brittle (at least how we mix it).

PL has some give to it but very very strong, (see my PL thread )
It is also said to be waterproof and made of polyurethane.
At 6.99 for a contractors tube you can't really go wrong.

When you bed in the stringers made sure they sit ontop of the PL, if the stringer contacts the hull it will cause a hard spot which may or may not lead to cracking.