Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

B-C ?? as long as its ext, plywood it will work great , ooops is right you have to get that drying asap, it can take a month to dry!!

Once you get it space the pieces with some blocks in between them so the air can flow over them , and turn the fan on and leave it on !!

If we dont it will rot from the inside out !! [ did you notice the we ] ??? lol John

Yeah, I did. LoL. Seriously, good to have someone to help guide me along. I really appreciate it. I think I'll do the Transom in marine grade and the stringers and headers in B-C Outdoor ply. Heck, maybe I'll do it all in outdoor ply. I need to pull the trigger on it pretty soon and get it drying. I'm still planning on proving you wrong and saving my deck! I'll get that ply by this weekend and get some gentle heat and a fan on it in my basement.

Gas tank and windshield will be off Wednesday. I have a buddy lined up to help me pull the engine and outdrive on Thursday.

Finish cleaning garage on Friday and hope to get the boat in there on Saturday. Hopefully my neighbor will be home so i can borrow he 4 wheeler and floor jack to get it positioned in there.

Then, it's game on with the demolition!!!

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

I still dont think your going to be able to save the , [he is going to try and pull the deck with out destroying it ] Plus steve man your [ we ] are going to do al this work and why chance it ?? what 2 maybe 3 sheet of plywood !! It could be rotton in the inside and you will have to redo the deck in 3 or 4 years , and what you got planed with the teak , I still think its just better to start out all fresh !!!!!

But it up to you we will do it how ever you want !!

Lets see what the other guys think !!!

Who thinks he can pull the deck to reuse ??

And who thinks he should just start out fresh with new plywood ??

OK John

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Ps the ext will be fine for the transom, when you put all the coats of poly on there wont be any water getting to it !! and the marine grade is double the price of the ext, grade !! John

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

I hear ya on the water intrusion part. But, I'm thinking I use my boat on the big lake almost exclusively and I have an outdrive plus a 130 pounds of 4 stroke kicker i'm going to add which will need 11 inches of clearance from the transom. So, I agree, but like the exta layers of ply I get with the mg. That is my line of thought there. Still kicking it around though.

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

I hear ya on the water intrusion part. But, I'm thinking I use my boat on the big lake almost exclusively and I have an outdrive plus a 130 pounds of 4 stroke kicker i'm going to add which will need 11 inches of clearance from the transom. So, I agree, but like the exta layers of ply I get with the mg. That is my line of thought there. Still kicking it around though.

UUUMMM I think that the thickness has to be the same where the I/O meets , think i read that in ooopses thread !! If i remember right

Your going to mount the kicker motor on a kicker mount, we can allways add another piece of wood to that spot and glass that in !!

But i really dont think you will need it , with a thickness of 1 1/2 on the transom, and if we glass it in right , I really dont think it will move even with that 4 stroke on there !! John

 

[58hydraglide]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

83,
Looks like your in good hands. I'm happy to see that you changed your thinking on the project as a whole. I went through the same thing with mine and I am glad I made the decision to press on and do a complete rebuild. You will to. One thing to consider though, and you might have been told this already, but DON'T set a date for completion of the project. It'll be done when it get's done. I took a little break from my project but I will be back on it soon and I'll post some pics. I'm looking forward to seeing the pics of your project as it progresses. If I can be of any help, I'll be happy to do what I can. I love the old Slickcrafts and I can smell one a nautical mile away! The guys on here are top notch and I think you're well on your way. I used a/c plywood for my transom and stringers. It is very durable and plus being very good quality one one side it eliminated a lot of fairing in of any knots or holes prior to glassing. (on most A/C the C side is closer to a B in regards to the finished surface. This is also the plywood that slickcraft used in the original construction of the boat.( The grade stamping is visible throught the glass on the underside of the cabin deck)

Keep up the good work and when you're done we'll have to pick a port (east or west ) and get together and drag some lines. (might as well take a few of the guys here with us!) I can see it now... the mighty Slickcraft fleet break the pierheads! A sight to behold!!

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

UUUMMM I think that the thickness has to be the same where the I/O meets , think i read that in ooopses thread !! If i remember right

Your going to mount the kicker motor on a kicker mount, we can allways add another piece of wood to that spot and glass that in !!

But i really dont think you will need it , with a thickness of 1 1/2 on the transom, and if we glass it in right , I really dont think it will move even with that 4 stroke on there !! John

oh yeah, same thickness where I/O meets. No question about that. Check out the picture below. You can see where the 1 1/2" Transom stops and then there is a large piece of glassed in ply for the lifting hook. I was considering just making that 1 1/2" all the way accross. Though, it would be more weight and I don't want that burden on my engine either. Decisions, decisions. Maybe go 1 1/2" from the floor up in those areas.

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Hey 58! good to see you back. If you haven't had your boat out on the lake yet, you are gonna love it. They are excellent big lake fishing boats. As for a date for launching, yeah, I'm just taking it a day at a time like life. I want to do it right and not cut corners. When we are done we should definitely do an I-Boats Michigan and surrounding areas fishing weekend though! great idea. Terrorize some salmon with our crews! Plus, if we can't catch any "surf" we'll have john, who is an expert on the "turf" side. So, we'll eat well one way or another, haha.

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

oh yeah, same thickness where I/O meets. No question about that. Check out the picture below. You can see where the 1 1/2" Transom stops and then there is a large piece of glassed in ply for the lifting hook. I was considering just making that 1 1/2" all the way accross. Though, it would be more weight and I don't want that burden on my engine either. Decisions, decisions. Maybe go 1 1/2" from the floor up in those areas.

Yep, Or just put the 1 1/2 in the center and on the side where you are going to mount the kicker !!

I was thinking where your gas tank ends , going toward the bow , can you see in front of it ?? there might be a stringer in front of the bulk head there !!!

Is there a swim ladder on her ?? John

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

swim ladder? hell no, this is a fishing boat, lol

My two stringers go about a foot and a half past that bulkhead. End at the console where the cuddy is. i'd think there are probably a couple small stingers outside the two main ones under the floor. Not sure about that yet. I need to peak at 58's pics. his boat is real similar, just 3 feet longer.

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Well how did you do ??? did you get the motor out ??? John

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Well how did you do ??? did you get the motor out ??? John

It's Out!

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Cool steve how long did i take you guys ?? was it that hard to serperate the I/O from the motor ?? John

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

it took a few hours in all. the outdrive took some pulling but everything came off clean. no alarming noises or crunching sounds.

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

it took a few hours in all. the outdrive took some pulling but everything came off clean. no alarming noises or crunching sounds.

Ohhh cool , I hope i dont have to do that to the crownline , but i bet i will have to its a 68, and only used 4 years and sitting in the shead for the rest , but she does have a soft spot in the floor so that is petty much a kiss of death on the wood !!!

So when you starting on the deck ?? John

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

well, as you can see there is a whole lot of stuff going on with the transom plate. I'm going to have to sort through removing that beast properly. Then, I got some cleaning to do in my garage to make room for her. So, day at a time, my friend.

 

[58hydraglide]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

83,
I bumped my thread out of the archives with a few pics of the drive components and what I'm doing next. I figured it would save you some searchin if you wanted to see the pics. If you want more detailed pics of anything (stringers etc) let me know what and I'll take some for ya. I doubt you'll find a stringer outboard of the 2 main ones. Mine didnt have any. But it was filled solid with foam. (youre next fun project upcoming... Foam removal!) But the keel stringer is white oak and although it was wet in spots it's in excellent shape I dried it out with forced heat for about 4 days and soaked it with CPES . I have to say though I'll agree with john, I don't think you're gonna get your deck out in one reusable piec.

 

[83mulligan]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

Keel stringer, eh? I didn't even think about that. I wasn't planning on tearing up the floor under the engine mounts and gas tank. In fact, my port stringer seems dry and solid as a rock. Speaking of, are your stringers 3/4" ply or two pieces of 3/4" ply laminated together. It almost looks like 1 in your pictures.

 

[58hydraglide]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

my stringers were 3/4 " single ply (except for the keel, don't know why that one was different.) Why, are your's 2-ply?

 

[58hydraglide]

Re: Upon Further Review..#$%@..1973 Slickcraft Trans/String Overhaul

I'b better elaborate. I didn't pull the sole out of the engine bay , just in the gas tank bay. On mine, the helm deck steps down about6" from the rear deck so the helm deck sits directly on the keel stringer. Once I discoverd that I started doing core samples along the kees stringer aft. about halfway back tin the gas tank bay I found good wood. I continued back to the stern and al was well. I only pulled the floor out of the gas tank bay and left the engine bay intact. I went about 24" further back than the wet/rotted wood ,based on my samples and all was dry as a bone. The foam on either side of the keel striinger to that point was saturated with water. I wouldn't pull that portion of the deck if you dont have to, but if you do,.. well you're that far anyways, do it right and do it once.