windows XP

[Jim Hawkins]

Re: windows XP

Here is a shot of my rack:

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Nice rack MT!

(sorry but you set me up for that one.)

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

Nice rack MT!

(sorry but you set me up for that one.)

No problem and don't worry they are going to get bigger!

:facepalm:

 

[bruceb58]

Re: windows XP

Here is a shot of my rack:

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Those are some old switches! Look like some old 10/100 Mbit ones although I can't see the model numbers. You using these for your classes?

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

Those are some old switches! Look like some old 10/100 Mbit ones although I can't see the model numbers. You using these for your classes?

Yup, they are old Cisco 2950 and 2960 With EI IOS images on them, which is all you need for the classes, the routers are 1841's and 2503's, none of these will be used in a production environment, but work great for learning on, also using Packet Tracer and GNS3 emulators, which has the ability to mimic the newer switches and routers, the 1841 routers are running the latest Cisco IOS which is 15.1(4)

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

Yup, they are old Cisco 2950 and 2960 With EI IOS images on them, which is all you need for the classes, the routers are 1841's and 2503's, none of these will be used in a production environment, but work great for learning on, also using Packet Tracer and GNS3 emulators, which has the ability to mimic the newer switches and routers, the 1841 routers are running the latest Cisco IOS which is 15.1(4)

My first router back around 1999 or 2000 was a FREESCO router running on a 3.5" floppy....... on an old "386" that had the hard drive, monitor, keyboard, and mouse removed......and with multiple ethernet cards installed.

FREESCO Project

The internet "connection" was actually dial-up! When it tried to connect to a URL, the router would automatically dial the ISP.

At that time, we didn't have cable or DSL out here in the "stix"!!

I'm surprised they're still around....

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

My first connection to the telephone, was a 120 baud cradle rest, that you actually took your phone handle off the phone(dumb bell style) sit it on the phone modem then dialed in, listened to the static, high pitched fax noises and such, then you went to Bulletin Board Systems, or if you really knew what you were doing, you could get into some of the college networks. My first hard drive, was 5 mb, and it ran over $800 bucks! It was what they called a Hard Card and I had 5.25 inch floppies in my Tandy 1000, I was thrilled when I got my first external floppy drive that I could plug into my TRS 80, which up until that time, I had to store stuff on a cassette tape.

Man I am really feeling old!

It is really funny, there is a really dedicated following to some of this old technology, I have run into several users groups for these old computers, disk drives and tape drives.

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

My first connection to the telephone, was a 120 baud cradle rest, that you actually took your phone handle off the phone(dumb bell style) sit it on the phone modem then dialed in, listened to the static, high pitched fax noises and such, then you went to Bulletin Board Systems, or if you really knew what you were doing, you could get into some of the college networks. My first hard drive, was 5 mb, and it ran over $800 bucks! It was what they called a Hard Card and I had 5.25 inch floppies in my Tandy 1000, I was thrilled when I got my first external floppy drive that I could plug into my TRS 80, which up until that time, I had to store stuff on a cassette tape.

Man I am really feeling old!

It is really funny, there is a really dedicated following to some of this old technology, I have run into several users groups for these old computers, disk drives and tape drives.

You got me beat! I added a second floppy to my tandy 1000 and my first hard drive was $300 for a 20meg..........

Wait, did you buy your hard drive FROM the Tandy store? Here a 20m drive was $700 for the drive and the "card" was $300!

WHAT A BARGAIN! I discovered Computer Shopper (the huge one) back then and found a Western Digital 20meg drive + controller card for a total of $300! I thought I had REALLY found something! I even went back out to the Tandy Store and showed them the ad and they (of course) told me that it wouldn't work!!!!!

The following month, I sold my 20meg hard drive for what I paid for it and bought a 30meg drive for the same price! I couldn't believe my LUCK!



I am STILL amazed that I can now buy a 2 TERA-BYTE drive for about $100............... (!)


Things have changed a bit!

Oh yeah.....I paid I think $300 for my first modem! (I think it was a Tandy 300baud FROM the Tandy store (which of course went out of business ....what 15 years ago?)

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

What really amazes me, is I can buy a 128 gig thumb drive, that is so small I loose the dam thing all of the time, for less than $30 bucks!

My wife continues to tell me I have a thumb drive fetish.

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

What really amazes me, is I can buy a 128 gig thumb drive, that is so small I loose the dam thing all of the time, for less than $30 bucks!

My wife continues to tell me I have a thumb drive fetish.

Yeah.....me too!

I am still amazed that you can do a complete Linux install from a thumbdrive...........or run a complete operating system, live (virtually all the LInux's) directly from a thumb drive!

 

[CharlieB]

Re: windows XP

I'll keep running XP for a long time. All three are behind my router, each unit is firewalled and active A/V. Haven't had a problem other than a total hard drive failure. And that's in the box on the way back for warranty replacement.

Partitioned O/S and cloned a bootable copy to a partition on the 2nd drive, ditto to a thumb. This way 'when' I have another drive failure I can yank it out and boot to 2nd drive, or thumb, and clone a copy to my new primary drive.

Pretty much the same IF a bug should ever manage to find its way into this machine, just wipe the drive and clone back a copy from the thumb.

Sounds too easy, sometime will go wrong. Murphy's Law.

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

Well i am having more and more problems with XP, slower and slower, unable to view some videos, etc. What do you computer savy people recommend, Vista, 7, or 8? I have a dell multiplex 745 with a dual core processor.

Well, we've hijacked this thread into "next week"!

So back to the OP's original question..........If you want to install an operating system that will give you ease of operation, security, and you primarily want to watch Youtube(or other videos) , edit documents, create PDFs, Spreadsheets, presentations, etc,

Go to Ubuntu PC Operating system | Ubuntu

and then Get Ubuntu | Download | Ubuntu

and follow the directions for the free download (unless you want to contribute.....but they'll NEVER bug you for money...ever)

Or do a little more reading and "burn" it to a thumb-drive and try it in the "live" (non-installed) mode.

You'll be surprised at how easy it really is.

Cheers,


Rick


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[Jim Hawkins]

Re: windows XP

I have found on my computer running XP that the biggest problem was not trojans or viruses or other bad things, it was the Good programs I was using. Mindless endless searching for updates, everything wanting to have their program queued up in STARTUP, microsoft, google, yahoo tracking your every movement.

I wonder, (never used Linux) if you run Linux does that prevent all those things?

I think the key to a fast computer is to set it up for,
No Automatic Updates or searches for updates, (if a program needs an update it will say so)
Nothing in Startup
A browser where you select "Do not track"
Use a router
Email client with good filters
Remove every program you dont use.
Always down load in expert installation so you can decline all the other crap they add on.
Deleting/disabling Windows "Data Store"
Don't use windows security essentials

In short, meticulously set up your computer and every program to do what YOU want it to do not what it wants to do.

 

[bigdee]

Re: windows XP

I wonder, (never used Linux) if you run Linux does that prevent all those things?

Yup

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

I have found on my computer running XP that the biggest problem was not trojans or viruses or other bad things, it was the Good programs I was using. Mindless endless searching for updates, everything wanting to have their program queued up in STARTUP, microsoft, google, yahoo tracking your every movement.

I wonder, (never used Linux) if you run Linux does that prevent all those things?

Pretty much, yes.

I think the key to a fast computer is to set it up for,
No Automatic Updates or searches for updates, (if a program needs an update it will say so)

Most Linux distributions offer updates and never do it by default. Also, because there's no registry, you only need to do a reboot when the kernel is updated Winblows seems to need a reboot on just about every update.

Nothing in Startup

There's really no "startup" You select what programs (if any) you want to launch during startup.
(there actually is a sort of "start-up" of utility services that do always run at boot up. there's a LOT of info written on what you should have running and what you do not need for a desktop version of linux)

A browser where you select "Do not track"

It's called Firefox. Other browsers also have this feature.

Use a router

Most routers use embedded Linux

Email client with good filters

Thunderbird, Kmail, Zimbra, Evolution, (just off the top of my head).... used to use Kmail but recently I have switched back the T-bird. (I go back and forth)

Remove every program you dont use.

This is probably what I dislike about Windooz the most! When you 'remove' a program, it's NOT REALLY GONE! In Linux, when you remove something, it's GONE until you decide to install it again.

Always down load in expert installation so you can decline all the other crap they add on.

Not sure what you mean by "expert installation"

Deleting/disabling Windows "Data Store"

What's that?

Don't use windows security essentials

One would think that MS should be the "expert" in developing the malware control/detection software for their own operating system.....AND this should have been available FROM MS since Windows 1.0

In short, meticulously set up your computer and every program to do what YOU want it to do not what it wants to do.

THIS is the epitome of GNU Linux. Do a little reading. It's the absolute advantage of being able to tailor and adjust nearly every setting you might want to tailor for your own needs and wants. MS and Apple mostly decide what they think you want and offer it that way.

In GNU Linux (Just about every one of the more than 100 distros) you are the one in control.

While they might ask for donations, They never try to sell you anything. AND they usually only ask once or just have a link shown on their home page for a paypal donation etc.

If you're going to try it, try one of the most popular versions like Ubuntu, Fedora(REDHAT) , OpenSuSE (Novell Suse), Mint and many others.

I started with Redhat 7.2 (in 1998 or so) up to Redhat 9.0 and switched to Suse at 9.3 and am now at OpenSuSE 13.1 x64.

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

Well you guys all convinced me, I am updating my uBuntu server today, so I can start playing with it is again, I think I will set it up as a ftp server and might throw a website on it, later this week, I have to set up a Windows 2008 r2 server on my new blade, but I got bored!

 

[888]

Re: windows XP

Windows XP has been updated!!!

Late last week, Microsoft published an unexpected security update for a flaw in its Internet Explorer browser. Even more unexpected, the patch also covered Windows XP, which Microsoft officially stopped supporting back in early April.

Microsoft explained the change of heart by saying it had provided the security update "based on the proximity to the end of support for Windows XP".

Windows XP: Microsoft can't wash its hands of the security problem so easily | ZDNet

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

One of the problems I have found with Linux, it is not easy to add new hardware to it, if you don't have it hooked up when you install the system, I am trying to add a wireless N USB adapter and it won't recognize it. So if you are thinking of installing Linux, remember adding hardware is not quite as easy as it is in windows, at least not in my experience. Perhaps HT32BSX115 could give us some pointers?

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: windows XP

Windows XP has been updated!!!

Late last week, Microsoft published an unexpected security update for a flaw in its Internet Explorer browser. Even more unexpected, the patch also covered Windows XP, which Microsoft officially stopped supporting back in early April.

Microsoft explained the change of heart by saying it had provided the security update "based on the proximity to the end of support for Windows XP".

Windows XP: Microsoft can't wash its hands of the security problem so easily | ZDNet

Figured they would do something like this, it is very difficult to simply cut off over 1/4 of the installed base of computers on the internet cold turkey, Microsoft is going to be stuck supporting XP in one form or another for several years to come.

If you are an independent programer, that is familiar with the XP operating system and how to patch it, you could make yourself very rich by doing custom programing for XP users and there would be very little Microsoft could do about it..

 

[joed]

Re: windows XP

Window XP support has not ended. Just the free support has ended. Corporate users can pay for continued support.

 

[HT32BSX115]

Re: windows XP

One of the problems I have found with Linux, it is not easy to add new hardware to it, if you don't have it hooked up when you install the system, I am trying to add a wireless N USB adapter and it won't recognize it. So if you are thinking of installing Linux, remember adding hardware is not quite as easy as it is in windows, at least not in my experience. Perhaps HT32BSX115 could give us some pointers?

What flavor of Linux are you talking about? Some distro's had more problems than others. Lately, I have installed OpenSUSE on several laptops and everything just worked.

In the past, since Broadcomm and a couple of others weren't playing well with Linux it was somewhat of a problem. I think that has become a non-issue as of late.... but it still not a bad idea to have a look at a compatibility list once in a while.....

List: Linux Compatible USB Wireless Adapter (WUSB) - nixCraft

Window XP support has not ended. Just the free support has ended. Corporate users can pay for continued support.​

Yeah. whip out your credit card! Or just throw it away and buy another computer! (or install Linux)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aufL76bXLAg