1960's Falcon Rebuild (New Title)

[lckstckn2smknbrls]

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I used biscuits, titebond III and 1/8"x2" aluminum stock riveted through the plywood.

 

[InMotion]

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I used biscuits, titebond III and 1/8"x2" aluminum stock riveted through the plywood.

That'll work....

I just use the Dozer approach.... scrap 3/4" pc's glued and screwed to one side from the bottom and screwed down on the other pc. Sealed with couple coats of Spar. Simple, but effective. Haven't had any issues yet.

J.

 

[dozerII]

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Coming together Jim, must be a little warmer there than here, -29 this morning. Warmed up pretty nice this afternoon to -11.

 

[bear_69cuda]

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Hey Jim,

Deck and dash are looking good brutha!

As always great progress!

 

[InMotion]

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Coming together Jim, must be a little warmer there than here, -29 this morning. Warmed up pretty nice this afternoon to -11.

Thanks Glen. -10 today as a high... great for skiing! Not -29!!! Holy cow... that is brisk! Please don't send it our way.

J.

 

[InMotion]

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Hey Jim,

Deck and dash are looking good brutha!

As always great progress!

Thanks Bear! Hope all is well with you!

Jim

 

[InMotion]

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Hey fellas,

I have a line on getting an a couple of aluminum sheets (4x8). Was seriously considering skinning the console in it, and redoing the gunwales in it.

Open to pro's/cons on this... it has a mid satin finish which I would leave (at least at this point anyway) and seal up with collinite.

This boat is going to get out a lot without potentially a cover.... the center console and seats will be covered... but the rest of the boat will not be unless it is on the trailer.

Whatchathink?

Jim

 

[SigSaurP229]

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If there is a possibility that it will be out without a cover I would definetly epoxy everything and then skim it in aluminum. If its just for trips to the lake or camping two or three days at a time or something I might not worry about it, however if there is a possibility its going to sit outside at home uncovered I would certainly skim it with aluminum.

 

[dozerII]

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Hey Jim, what thickness is the aluminum, and how do plan on fastening it to the console wood? New tops for the gunwales is pretty easy.

 

[InMotion]

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Thanks Sig and Glen.... good advice and thoughts.

The boat will remain completely covered 10 mths of the year. The console, main seats and back deck will be completely covered except when in use. The rest of the boat will be either covered or uncovered depending on whether it is on the trailer (covered) or in the water (uncovered).

I'm gonna go with what I originally had planned to do --- wood. I'll just see what happens... if it ends up weathering really badly, then I will will simply remove it and go with plan B. No biggy. The kids and Admiral would prefer the cool touch wood vs the alum. So... that's the plan there. The rest is covered unless in use...

Truthfully, I have really been giving this a lot of thought. I am a wood guy through and through. I love alum for the hull --- virtually 0 maintenance and great durability. I really like having wood in the boat --- just what I grew up with. The wood in my Jupiter after 2 seasons looks brand new.

However, it should be interesting to see the impact of weather for a few weeks of the year on the wood when the boat is not on the trailer.

I'm gonna move forward. Cedar is new to me to work with in the boat... should be interesting to see how it turns out.

Have a great day fellas!

Jim

 

[barato2]

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Jim....just invest a bit in a COVER and you needn't worry about the wood. i'm with you all the way on loving wood on boats.....when i was in high school, my dad was looking at a 53' mahogany hull cruiser (my dad, who doesn't quite know which end of the screwdriver you point at the screw.....:facepalm and i think i left some slobber on the decks of that one

 

[InMotion]

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Jim....just invest a bit in a COVER and you needn't worry about the wood.

Ya... got one... issue is the wind! Gotta figure out a way to A - keep the wind from ripping the cover off when the boat is on the water and B keep the rain from collecting and pulling the cover down and then pooling. I used a wood frame structure for the Jupiter which worked well from my perspective --- more of a pain and heavy from the Admiral's perspective (she uses the boat prolly 5 times more than I do....~~~!!!!)

More thout needed here as this is a really long open area... not pratical to do what I did on the other boat.

On the trailer is easy. On the water is the tricky part.

Wonder if anyone has any ingenious ideas to keep the cover on the boat in the wind and not imploding in with a huge pool of water collecting....

J.

 

[jbcurt00]

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A cinch strap the loops the bottom of the cover, the cover we used a long time ago had a zip/bungee cord run in a pocket around the bottom of the cover. Slip it over, and pull the bungee taut. Enough tension & reduced circumference to keep the cover below the rubrail.

I like the pvc cover I made out of electric conduit (uv stable primarily, but also slightly less expensive then white sch 40 pvc. I used the gray 1" pipe & regular white pvc fittings.

A strong back, w/ T's to attach an angled upright every few feet:

I added a 90deg sweep on either end capped off w/ a T. 1 rests on the top of the OB, the other hooks over the windshield. I put an 8" piece of pool noodle over the T at the end of the 90* sweep.

Added bonus is that it knocks down quick & easy into a couple dozen fittings & a few legs of 1" pvc, all @4ft. Easy to store & carry to & from boat. An empty tent bag, if long enough would be perfect to tote the poles & fittings around in.

 

[InMotion]

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Hey JB --- That's more or less what I did with the Jupiter --- but had solid panels of thin ply as the water would accumulate, pool and then pull the cover up and the rain would drain into the boat!


Ok... here's what I did last night: I like the console itself:


But not hot on the cedar:


So... here's what I am thinking after about an hour standing and looking at it... what about vinyl the whole thing. White on the sides, curved top and the I really liked that carbon fiber vinyl look that JB suggested for Glen on the dash.

Keep in mind that I am going to be covering both sides at the "side legs" of the console.... a bit trickier than it looks (I think). Possible? Thoughts?

Suggestions welcomed here fella's as the vinyl is the one that feels most right to me right now unless someone suggests something better!

Have a great Tuesday!

Jim

 

[jbcurt00]

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I haven't had any problem w/ any of the covers puddling significant amounts of water using that type of pvc support. Mine do have straps that run under the hull & up over the top of the cover & support. That may be enough to keep them taut....

I think you can probably upholster the curved top of the console on the console, as a permanent installation. Then make removeable panels for the sides w/ thru bolts (not unlike Glen's recent gunwale side pieces) that tuck up tight to the curved back. Thin aluminum stock could be formed to the curved plywood edge as it runs down the console from the bottom of the dash to the deck.

If you go white on the console vinyl, I'd go charcoal or black on the carbon fiber vinyl for the dash. And white face gauges.

 

[InMotion]

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I haven't had any problem w/ any of the covers puddling significant amounts of water using that type of pvc support. Mine do have straps that run under the hull & up over the top of the cover & support. That may be enough to keep them taut....

I think you can probably upholster the curved top of the console on the console, as a permanent installation. Then make removeable panels for the sides w/ thru bolts (not unlike Glen's recent gunwale side pieces) that tuck up tight to the curved back. Thin aluminum stock could be formed to the curved plywood edge as it runs down the console from the bottom of the dash to the deck.

If you go white on the console vinyl, I'd go charcoal or black on the carbon fiber vinyl for the dash. And white face gauges.

It's those straps under the boat the do the trick. Do you put those straps under the boat when docked? That's where I have an issue.

Interesting idea there with the sides....

The gauges I have are the ones shown a couple of pictures ago... the old style starcraft gauges.

J.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Don't dock a boat so .... ???.... but probably not going under the boat when docked.

Yeah, I like the vintage gauges, but even if you had them completely rebuilt & rechromed, I'm not sure how they'd look against a carbon fiber. Or a shiny polished aluminum dash either. But you've got the gauges, and the vinyl shouldn't be too expensive. Get the vinyl & drop the gauges on it, see if YOU like it

If you saw how I dress for work or dinner out w/ the Admiral, you probably wouldn't ask me for my design advice :watermelon:

 

[InMotion]

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Don't dock a boat so .... ???.... but probably not going under the boat when docked.

Yeah, I like the vintage gauges, but even if you had them completely rebuilt & rechromed, I'm not sure how they'd look against a carbon fiber. Or a shiny polished aluminum dash either. But you've got the gauges, and the vinyl shouldn't be too expensive. Get the vinyl & drop the gauges on it, see if YOU like it

If you saw how I dress for work or dinner out w/ the Admiral, you probably wouldn't ask me for my design advice :watermelon:

Good point there on the carbon fibre vinyl and the fact that the gauges sit "on" the face rather than impeded in. I have an idea for the dash face now... so I will run with it. Vinyl is the only thing I can think of to cover/dress up the rest of the console --- and keep it light!

Thanks JB.

J.

 

[jbcurt00]

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No thank you

I can now reference this ^^^ as proof for the Admiral:

I am the voice of reason, heed my wisdom

:faint2:

:facepalm: I pray for our future :facepalm:

 

[GA_Boater]

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It's those straps under the boat the do the trick. Do you put those straps under the boat when docked? That's where I have an issue.

Isn't that when you introduce the kids to the fun of keelhauling? :doh: